I first heard that Skyrim is coming out a day ago, and have just now watched the trailer. Despite all the advice given over the past two or more years in the TES V Ideas and Discussion thread the Developers have chosen to go with a grey/black&white colour scheme, they have used creatures which are in every other game of this genre (dragons) and are focusing on graphics again (same mistake they made with oblivion). We all gave very nice ideas in the discussion thread and were repeatedly told that the developers were in fact reading what we said, when in truth we might as well have been pissing on a wall. I almost threw up when I saw the trailer.

This is one game I will not be paying for, and I hope the same is true for all who offered their time and effort to make a great game in the discussion thread and are just now realizing that the devs don't listen to what the people want. I will be eagerly waiting another 6 years for TES VI to come out though in the hope that gamesas will learn from it's last two failures and place the game in several provinces with less focus on graphics and more focus on good old fashion gameplay with an extreme other world feel.

Rant end.

Well maybe you should research all the other awesome things that Skyrim is going to have. It doesn't seem you're up to date.

Sounds like your spitting the dummy out,because they haven't done one thing you wanted.
Oh well.....your loss.

Good graphics means the game must be horrible because they can't possibly have good graphics AND good gameplay?

Can't have been any other reason since you only have known for ONE DAY and can't have done any research.

And how is it grey, black and white?

Sorry if I seem like a troll, but I put almost 4 months into the ideas and discussion forum for TES V and none of it was worth the devs time.

How do you know? You JUST HEARD OF IT. Your ideas aren't the only ones in that thread anyway. And if you care so much, why have you taken 3 or so months to notice it?

If you've only just found out about skyrim,then you probably haven't seen all the info,screens and dev/todd interviews.
May i suggest you check them out before posting such nonsense.

Bro you're lying to yourself do you realize that? You said..."Developers have chosen to go with a grey/black&white colour scheme". Have you even seen the trailer? The screens? Read up on Game Informer? The international mags?

Did you miss the fall forest? Pine forest? No greys, blacks and whites there.

So you cared enough about what would eventually be known as Skyrim to post four months of idea in the ideas thread yet it took you three months to find out about the release. I call your bluff...

Fair enough, read the dev thread 150 to 180 and you'll see most of my ideas and that it was in fact around 4 months that I was online posting ideas almost every day. As for just finding out about it I gave up, I realized it was taking so much of my time and effort and there were no returns so I got a job and focused on that for a while.

As for otherworldly feel I am hoping TES VI is set in the lower half of the world, Summerset Isles, the land of the Khajit and the Black Marsh. There is much potential for architectural and landscape tweaking that would make the game feel more like morrowind and less like D&D.

Skyrim, snow, mountains etc... Maybe he thinks snow looks better in yellow?

Just 4 months? Man, I should really feel even more put out than you, because my run of suggestions ran from threads #90 to around #145 - 150, which was around the course of almost a year.

Suggestions are just that, suggestions. Were they good? For the most part Sometimes. Was it likely that Bethesda received at least some inspiration from it? Sure, I expect they found an idea or two that served as an inspiration to create their own interpretation of the core that the particular idea represented.
I suggested things, admittedly with the hope that it would do some good for the game when it finally came out, but also for its own sake, for the fun that it was to play developer with others and to see how others construed their ideal game. And even if Bethesda chose to do nothing from those threads, it would still be worth it in my mind.

Also, before you dump on the dragons, take the time to understand the significance they pose, and recognize that we likely haven't seen dragons like this before at all.

Stupid immature posts removed. Folks, behave :nono:

Amen to that, how anyone can have joined in 08 and not know about Skyrim is beyond me. (Also 3-1 to the lads )

I understand what you're saying, and mostly agree, however, Elder Scrolls has taken a turn from fantasy game to Dungeons and Dragons with this latest game. I would have preferred to never see that happen. There is no excuse for putting dragons in a TES game (in my mind).

I meant he must have missed all the reds, blues, and greens in the fall forest, pine forest, and water rapids parts of the trailer.

I think The Elder Scrolls was originally mostly inspired by D&D.

What's 3-1?

Yannow, I had a split-second reaction when I saw the trailer, one that was "ahh [censored], they actually are doing dragons?"

And then, once I had the opportunity to consider things, it went away.

The dragons potentially represent, at their weirdest lore-conception, the servants of Aka, leser Aedric time-spirits, Jills, who come in and mend time when it's about to be. or has been, screwed with. Or who assist Time in fitting the entire world in its gullet.
And let's face it, there have been dragons in this game series for quite a while: Nafalagahoweveryoupronounceit from Redguard, Tosh Raka from Akavir, the Cyrodiilic understanding of Dragons as rare and hidden and sacred to the Empire, the river-dragons from the First Pocket Guide to the Empire, and of course the Dragon God of Time, whose choice appearance is not just a coincidence for this title.

[And note, even if there are those who peruse this thread that happen to disagree with these arguable interpretations, the point still remains that the Dragons of TES are more than just cliche Dragons.]

As for the DnD comment, it seems extremely premature, given the amount of information we've been given versus the entirety of the game we have yet to see.
EDIT: Which, by the way, the info we've been given indicates that they are keeping what worked from Oblivion/FO3, while returning to a Morrowind/Redguard style of world-building and storytelling. Which is something that I am extremely excited to see.

LoL so you basically divide the Tes provinces into 'provinces with graphics focus' and 'provinces without graphics focus'? I thought the game focus is given by devs' decisions not by the provinces geography.

I say it's to early to judge the game with so many months until it's released date and don't take it personal if Bethesda doesn't use any of your ideas, you're not the only person that has contributed many ideas that are not going to be implemented in Skyrim and as for the creatures being in every other game in this genre well that maybe true but if you read about the dragons you will see that they really made it their own unique thing.

Yeah, dragons are so generic, every RPG has them... its going to make Skyrim feel so blah. It was much more unique when the monsters were just like skeletons and goblins and vampires and liches and like demons and rats and elemental spirits and dinosaurs and crabs and gargoyles and that sort of stuff.

I have to say I am extremely glad that the Skyrim developers don't try to make their games "design by committee", the ideas in those old threads about ESV were all over the place and had no unifying vision.

Not a thread, in my humble opinion, that is even worth replying to, except to say, what is the big deal against Dungeons and Dragons? Or is the OP referring to the awful films or kid's cartoons, and not the actual game, which is totally open and free and only has cliches if you choose to put them in your campaign.

Oh wait, I get it now ,'less like Morrowind, and and more like [insert anything that isn't Morrowind]' as proof that Skyrim isn't exactly what I want, so will be no good. I will swear I have heard that argument before.

Agreed. Lots of people suggest things that only they want, but you can't really build a large project on that. Heck, the most wanted wish that people suggested the most is to turn TES into a MMO like WoW. But Skyrim isn't a MMO.