"Kagrenac was devoted to his people, and the Dwarves, despite what you may have read, were a pious lot-he would not have sacrificed so many of their golden souls to create Anumidum's metal body if it were all in the name of grand theater. Kagrenac had even built the tools needed to construct a Mantella, the Crux of Transcendence."

Okay. So now everyone can stop posting about where the Dwarves went. I TOLD YOU EIGHTY YEARS AGO.

Filthy with it, I am.

So Kagrenac was trying to do what the Tribunal did, just on a much larger scale?

The Warp of the West was fractured time on a fairly large scale. And that was only with the Mantellian Crux as it's source of power. What would have happened if either Kagrenac or Dagoth Ur finished their constructions based on the Heart of Lorkhan?

Why the hell am I asking questions?

Here's one you probably won't want to answer: The Digital House and the digitals from the Loveletter from the Fifth Era.

Feel free to toss in any tidbits about House Sul Progenitor House and C0DA while you're at it.

Pretty much. Leaky creatia, otherwise called "kaleidocules".

Crap. I'm not supposed to be making up new words.

STRIKE THAT!

Wasn't there the term "Foyson" floating around?
I remember that this term came up in Loranna's RP, in conjunction with a device called "Eidolon", which served as a means to channel "creatia"/"mythopoeic energy" into the Void, thus destroying Creation.
Yep, I know, Loranna's RP is not canon, but I happen to like the word Foyson.

:)

Doesn't seem like it'd be hard to do. There's a Father and a Son in the Christian mythos, who are separate but one. As an Aedra of the cycle of birth and death, he became mortal, spirit transformed to flesh, to experience it firsthand, and then took his rightful place.

"Belief-engines, properly called the "Auxiliary Semi-Shockpoint Nilgularity", provide energy for short dream-sleeve jumps in case a Vehkship's main ego is damaged, allowing the C0DA Paravant to potentially get to the safety of a voidyard orbital.

"By creating the equivalent of an Nu-class Mnemolic, shrinking it instantaneously via a creatia tesseract array, and then projecting the resulting moth-talk well to a nil-point just outside the ego's hull, an ASSN can slingshot the Paravant into era-streams without the needed energies of nearby aetheric bodies or shockpoint application.

"The ASSN is strictly Last Ditch technology, however. It's often deemed as too dangerous for its own good, because it works on the rarified principles of Phynaster's Inversion, a set of mathematics that doesn't exist in our own dimension. Vehkships have vanished in nil-space trying to make an ASSN jump?indeed, the celestial irregularity known as the M4bV Legerity, in which the C0DA Oblivion Vanquisher appears and implodes in perpetuity, is the belief system's most famous cautionary tale."

S'all I got. Sorry.




I like it. Here's 4000 more points, because you're really very lovely.

Many more points that I ever expect to get in a discussion of metaphysics, which, as you know is not my forte. Can I cash out now?

"Foyson" is a Gaelic word for the essence of something. Fairies steal the foyson out of food, and then you die of malnutrition despite eating plenty, for example.

Somewhere I remember seeing 'chronocules,' which would be leaking time, then.

Oooh, 'Paravant.'

Yay! Thank you thank you thank you MK...

Hehehe. I love the mental image of Kagrenac already working on this stuff at age 8, an age when most Dwemer kids are just starting to build animunculi.
So more broadly, "mythopoeic" things work by symbolically reenacting certain patterns of myth, thereby (hopefully) obtaining the endpoint of the myth? So what you'd have to do is find a myth about whatever it is you want to have happen, then get some good symbols and play-act the myth... probably tones come into it too, just because.
And with powerful enough symbols and manipulation, it might even be possible to *change* the patterns of myth, or create a new mythic structure. Which could have various interesting uses...

Am I close?

Add a Fish symbol and the mental agony that is the Holy Ghost, along with an elegant apologia for female principle absenteeism, file off all the Christian serial numbers...

...then you can collect your money.






Very. Pretty soon you get your own Stompy Robot. And cause absorbocide to your whole frikkin' race. Way to go, monkey.

Woo! I'm close!

What is absorbocide?

Too late. You vanished. For eighty years your disappearance will be discussed in various lore threads because I hid crap in fake interviews in hard-to-find websites.

You're getting dangerously close with that feminine mystique thing to "The D'Arkay Code," so I better pass.

... I'm sure there's a graver insult than comparing MK to Dan Brown, but that's all I dare for now ...

Look as I do not strike back, my friends. Filthy with mercy, too!

Here's a word: paleonumerology.

Someone take a stab.

The study of old numbers... but I'm not sure of the context. Numerology of ancient civilizations? Numbers that no longer exist?

My first post in the Lore forums is the etymology of an MK word? Sheo must be acting as my muse... but hey, I'll take a crack at it anyway.

Paleonumerology would be the study of the historical relationship between numbers esoteric and the physical world.

Consider the following:
2 primal (original) powers. Each begat a soul (2*2=4). Of the et'Ada who worked on the formation of Mundus, 8 Aedra remained viable powers in the world (4*2=8). Of those who stood apart from creation, 16 remained to take a hand in its history (8*2=16). So where in the past did the number 2 become significant enough to have such a strong influence on the current panthenon, and why? Obviously, 2 is reflected in many aspects of our physical and mental nature - left/right, male/female, child/advlt, restraint/gratification, pain/pleasure, attraction/repulsion, etc. So, as beings with strong ties to this number, it would be natural for us to use dichotomy in our attempts at understanding our world.

However, all this would just be setting the stage for the paleonumerologist. This individual would ask:
- When was dichotomy first used to explain the primal powers?
- How did the original dichotomy evolve into the pantheon we know today?
- In what way did each addition/change to the pantheon reflect the cultures of that time?
... and so on.

Another interesting study for this person may be the relation of Daedra to specific summoning dates.

AH! My head hurts. So many topics, so many abstract ideas. AHH!

My word for you, because I doubt you will explain CHIM, is actually the naming convention of all the Daedric shrines. Or you can at least explain what my favorite one is, Assurnabitashpi. I like yelling that at people when I'm feeling threatened.

And in reference to the above poster: what about the Gray-Maybe? You know, there is left and right, but there is also the middle, the androgyne, the teen, loose avoidance, pleasurable pain (as well as painful pleasure), undeath, and... crap, I can't justify repulsive attraction.

Morbid fascination. You can't stand the sight of something, yet you can't turn your eyes away from it. Maybe not the repulsion and attraction you were talking about, though.

The French have a word for repulsive attraction: jolie-laide, ugly-beautiful.

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We have?

While techinically the study of old numbers is it refering to the study of old mathematic priniciples.


Imagine an earlier universe where pi =1.2 for example ,and somebody effed with the axis mundi using a big stompy robot to make it approx 3.14.
Paelonumerology would be the study of the old numbers and rules before the change...

As opposed to somninumerology which would be the study of mathematical systems of other possible but not yet existing realities:P

That's brilliant! Very good work!


I have not laughed harder than I did when I read that in a very long time.


Clearly, that's killing by svcking the victim into the Void.

Or else when you trip and fall into a black hole?

Heh, one could have fun with the -cide ending. It comes from the Latin word "to fall" (which could, and often was, used euphemistically to mean to die, generally to be killed rather to die of natural causes), so something ending with -cide need not involve murder...


Based on context, "numidition" would appear to be when the lore gets screwed up. They fixed the numidition by changing the lore/ejecting the older, contradictory lore...

After Oblivion, our little council of numidition fixers is in for a massive headache...

The sinuous line between Yin and Yang? Well unless you can give it a number, I'll leave that one to the paleophilosophists.