Hey folks,

Feeling much better, thankee thankee. Boy, there sure are a lot of made up words in Tamriel, like "dracochrysalis" and "impossipoint" and "mananaut"..!

and and and

Tell you what: you guys round 'em up and I'll do my best to explain what they are. In-character. Or you guys can try and figure them out yourself. In any case, it should be fun.

Phrases count, too, so "Empire Actual" can be listed, for example.

Let's go. Gimme your favorites. Everybody play.

Um... some of my favorites aren't coined words, but words that are used in a special context.

Mythopoeic, enantiomorph, dreamsleeve.

If might throw in another word...

I'd love to see this word explained in ES context:

Arenotelicon

Ahem. Here we go. Okay, maybe this will only sorta-kinda be in-character. Or not in-character at all. I make the rules here, because I am filthy with power.

Mythopoeic: Could you show me where this was used?

Enantiomorph: I found this in a really, really weird dictionary, which chose to explain it as "a merged dichotomy". In TES, the Enantiomorph is most commonly used to refer to the really, really weird mythic figure of Arctus-who-is-Septim. I'll allow others to play with this until I get back to it, as there's some good takes that certain loremasters have on the Enantiomorph.

Dreamsleeve: Stolen from a neat word Ken made up for Battlespire. The dreamsleeve is a conduit for sending special transmissions. Used by weirdo magicians and Imperial clerks, mainly. Kinda like myspace...only to reach it one must have at least part of their brain constantly meditating, because one aspect of the conduit is that it is able to carry images of concepts not yet "real".

protonymic

Read it in the Mythic Dawn Commentaries. No clue what it means. But it sounds neat.

Okay, another filthy with power rule: cite where the word came from in the lore if it's really, really obscure.

Thanks!

Used by Yagrum Bagarn in Morrowind:
http://til.gamingsource.net/tsomw/mw_18a.shtml

As in "mythopoeic enchantments" which is what Kagrenac was supposedly doing with the tools. Would appear to mean, "shaping reality by means of altering archetypes and myth."

Really? I thought enantiomorph was mirror-image, and it's synonymous to the word "enantiomer?" Usually, mirror images are described as "chiral," or handedness where the left hand is the mirror image of the right, yet are identical in structure? Eh, maybe it's just the organic chemistry.

Arenotelicon is in "Nu-Hatta of the Sphinxmoth Inquiry Tree and his somewhat edited response":
http://til.gamingsource.net/obscure_text/nu-hatta.shtml

Digging deep into the filthy swamp that is MK-ish lore talk...

"Hnnnh. Critical subplex inquest: divine roster, supermundus physiotype."

Tiber Septim: "The Stormcrown manted by way of the fourth: the steps of the dead. Mantling and incarnation are separate roads; do not mistake this. The latter is built from the cobbles of drawn-bone destiny. The former: walk like them until they must walk like you. This is the death children bring as the Sons of Hora."

Arkay: "Lies from a previous age."

King of Worms: "The Jills of Aka-tosh have mended this numidition. Mannimarco remains as he was: the high priest of maggots."

Almalexia: "Hnnnh. Kyne and Mara and Dibella and sixteen Daedric elements: all contributed to the snake-faced queen when she touched the drum. Their sum? A Beauty Cala as none have seen. Cala! Wetness of Kingdom!"

Sotha Sil: "...incalculable."

Vivec: "Arenotelicon."

Dagoth Ur: "Sharmat. Dream-sleeved inversion, where the Biters live, he brought them here, pawn of the Aggregate."

Nerevarine: "Pantheon by incarnation, as all alive now know."
- http://www.til.gamingsource.net/obscure_text/nu-hatta.shtml

Hmm, I see a lot more big MK words in there...

FIGHT!



Winner!

Now: FwP assignment - give me a little example of how a mythopoeic enchanment might work on, say, "Chorus-based Changes to The Hanged Man, by Kagrenac, age 8".

No big words in this one. This is just MK saying that the lore from the previous game was being ejected.

:glare:

Actually, that was one that I understood. I was more referring to "supermundus physiotype", "numidition", said "Arenotelicon" and "Pawn of the Aggregate".
:read:

Pretty easy: "a creature that alternates between male and female."

Why not just "phase-shifting tranny"? Well, because sometimes the old words are best, as they ring with implied importance and are all long and spooky-looking.

In a more ES-Nu-Hatta sense (meaning Tamrielic theosophy): "The ultimate in all the marriages between."

I've always been fond of cosminach. http://til.gamingsource.net/obscure_text/nu-hatta_nu-mantia.shtml#8

Heh, this led to a discussion of the Crux of Transcendence in the chatroom...

Let's see... it might be neat if instead of having to suffer yourself to become a god, you could borrow some other god's suffering... by, say, putting on their skin... or ringing the past event like a bell and channeling the power with a big old TUNING FORK! If you made the tuning fork into a nifty short-blade, it would be even keener. But you would probably need to wear something to protect yourself. At least a glove.

WHINY BABY!

Who would like to ret-con this for me? Remember, I graciously ret-conned myself with "Witness the Red King Once Jungled." Instead of being a Whiny Baby.

FwP assignment for 8,000 points: Ret-conning the lies of a previous age with a true Aedric Arkay that will be both "alluring" and "pertinent to our current age".

Actually, "Arkay The Enemy" did that.

Hmmm. So you're saying that by ringing the bell of an established archetype, and changing its tune, that you could either A) use that power and maybe B ) transform that power. In the case of The Hanged Man, what would you gain in A? What motivation for B?

Or just continue.

Somehow I feel like this will spiral into a True History of the Disappearance, or The Numidium Was Really a Walking Wind-Chime.


Which would rule.



Except for the being alluring part.

Nyuk nyuk nyuk.

Okay, snark-hat off: "Arkay the Enemy" doesn't really posit an a priori Divine Arkay, who would've contributed to the world's creation at the Convention, alongside a johnny-come-later mortal Arkay, who seems to experience a Tiber-like apotheosis during his lifetime.

Meaning it doesn't really address the paradox. Which is why the assignment is worth 8,000 freakin points.

I was mixing my metaphors, which is a dangerous thing to do in mythopoeic enchanting.

The second bit refers to what Vivec and the Trib. did with the tools. They walloped the heart with it, creating a repeat of the mythic event of Lorkhan's heart being ripped out. Then they used Keening to turn the agony into a tone they could bathe in. Thus, Keening, wailing or suffering. The wraithguard was used to shield the user from the untransmuted... whateveryoucall raw mythic energy. You're the word dude, make something up.

First bit refers to the Numidium, which is what Kagrenac was trying to do before the Tribunal interrupted him. We know Kagrenac made the tools to create a mantella, a Crux of Transcendence. (For those who don't read the Tarot, the Hanged Man in Tarot symbolizes the Crux of Transcendence, suffering to gain transcendence: Jesus on the cross, Odin hanging from the tree to gain wisdom, etc.)

So, we know what the tools are like, and what the Tribunal did with them, and we know what the mantella is like, and more or less how Tiber Septim made it - he killed his best friend, reenacting the murder of Lorkhan by Akatosh, and shoved his best friend's soul (or his own, or both, since they were tied) into a fancy rock, and then he plugged it into the Numidium, or Divine Skin.

Where the Divine Skin itself came from, the wise can find in other places.

Read the warning on both the tuning fork and the glove though.

"May result in repeated heart-ripping events. Heart-ripping events are copyrighted © Enantiomorph from the beginning of the second creation. Contains nuts."


I might have read wrong though. Lack of sleep does that to your reading comprehension skills.

Astounding. How long did this hide in plain sight?

Props.

As for making up a word for raw mythic energy, didn't I already do that? "Creatia"?

http://til.gamingsource.net/interviews/skelm.shtml

Aha, thank you sir. Creatia.

Is leaking Creatia what the Daedra use to build their... buildy stuff... in Oblivion? Which is otherwise Void?