Magic Feels Fable 3-esk? : V

» Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:40 pm

First topic posted in several years...

After watching some of the gameplay demo involving magicka and what not...I couldn't help but feel disappointed that felt alot like watching somebody throw magic around in fable 3...

I'm not saying anything bad about fable 3 (in this post)...but watching that just made me a little down about recognising similarities to another game.

On another note...that magicka effects on npc's looked way too similar to OB's for my liking...

any thoughts?

BTW I am still super pumped for Skyrim - have been since the days of Jiub on that leaky old prison boat long ago...

» Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:26 pm

How so?

» Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:11 pm

By all means it seems more akin to Bioshock's Plasmids than Fable 3.

» Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:20 am

I think he just means generally. The charge up, combining spells, etc. Reminded me of fable as well.

» Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:51 am

True, a comparison to Bioshock's plasmids seems more apt. Which I can only see as a compliment, they were very adaptive and a great benefit in combat.

» Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:18 pm

Wasn't it already confirmed you can't combine spells unless there the same spell?

» Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:58 pm

Both the combat and the magic remind me most of Dark Messiah of Might and Magic.

(btw, Bethesda/Zenimax recently acquired the studio that made DMoMM, no correlation of course...)

» Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:21 am

True, a comparison to Bioshock's plasmids seems more apt. Which I can only see as a compliment, they were very adaptive and a great benefit in combat.

Agreed. Bioshock's Plasmids were very well done and useful in combat.

» Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:29 am

I find it much more similar to BioShock 2 plasmids. When I first saw magic gameplay, BS2 instantly came to mind.

» Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:17 am

I don't know what was so wrong in Fable's magic, at most that it was hard to switch between melee, ranged and magic, but that certainly won't be a problem here.

» Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:17 pm

I don't like to think of such things, even though I do see them.
If I just ignore the voices, they will go away...

» Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:22 pm

No.

» Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:54 pm

I find it much more similar to BioShock 2 plasmids. When I first saw magic gameplay, BS2 instantly came to mind.

Bioshock is what inspired Todd to add it and I could not agree more that its an excellent idea.

» Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:44 pm

Who cares if it's similar to Fable? It's a good system. That's all that matters.

» Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:19 pm

Yeah, lack of spell creation, and the emphasis on the dual wield gimmick is making magic look totally inferior to previous games.

» Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:57 am

Definitely more like the Bioshock plasmids :intergalactic: [censored] yeah !

» Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:13 pm

Wasn't it already confirmed you can't combine spells unless there the same spell?

yes very true

» Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:16 am

Yeah, lack of spell creation, and the emphasis on the dual wield gimmick is making magic look totally inferior to previous games.

Xernac, while I appreciate your opinion, you need to point out "the lack of spell creation" in almost every post?
And while it maybe does look like Fable (And Bioshock by what matter) it will have waaaay more possibilities with all those effects and animations. (How much effects Fable had? 8?)

» Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:34 am

Yeah, lack of spell creation, and the emphasis on the dual wield gimmick is making magic look totally inferior to previous games.

Spell making with the duel wielding and all the new spell effects would have worked good using a spell crafting system.

» Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:46 pm

Xernac, while I appreciate your opinion, you need to point out "the lack of spell creation" in almost every post?And while it does look like Fable (And Bioshock by what matter) it will have waaaay more possibilities with all those effects and animations. (How much effects Fable had? 8?)

If its on topic, which it is. Being a topic about magic and all.

» Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:04 am

I don't think it looks anything similar to fable 3's horrible 5 spells.....

» Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:16 pm

I can't see any relation between those two magic systems at all. The only difference between this system and the old TES magic systems, besides the removal of spellmaking, is that you can dual wield magic and that the spells look about five thousand times better. The touch/ranged/self mechanics have just been replaced by different spells instead of variations of the same one to make them more unique.

I hope you don't take offence when I say this, because for all I know you may have a valid reason to think what you do, but sometimes it feels like people here are desperately searching for problems where there are none. :confused:

» Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:43 pm

Well yes, this is logical.
With the removal of spellmaking the magic has been removed from TES.

Since there no longer is any difference between TES magic and other games' special abilities such as psi powers or plasmids, yes.
It is logical that it looks generic.
Thats what it is now.

» Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:31 pm

I think it is more like bioshock, this game is a lot like bioshock, which I LOVE

» Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:44 pm

The similarity to Bioshock's plasmids, in case you missed Todd on the subject, is intentional.

In the past, the games had very "meh" magic systems, if you ask me: Instead of having a few spell effects that got more powerful as you leveled up, you had to constantly upgrade your spellbook... in Oblivion, you end up with a mess. Now, magic is more arcane, intuitive, and all around usable.