Magicka doesn't regenerate during combat? : V

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:32 pm

I've seen in a lot of threads stating that this is the case. If that's true, what would be the point of using robes over armor? I've only played about 6 levels as a mage so far and I haven't noticed whether or not the magicka was regenerating faster during combat. If not, what's the point of the robes?

Can anyone answer this?

Thanks!

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:10 am

The gimped combat regen is the main reason I go battlemage instead of mage.

The philosophy was, throw out pain till your mana goes dry, then pop your sword and shield with number-hotkeys.

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:38 am

The gimped combat regen is the main reason I go battlemage instead of mage.

The philosophy was, throw out pain till your mana goes dry, then pop your sword and shield with number-hotkeys.

I even do this with my spell assasin build.

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:47 pm

Magicka does regen. Magicka regen bonuses do not.

The point would be that many robes have more enchants than just that. And that downtime between fights matters to some people.

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:38 am

I've seen in a lot of threads stating that this is the case. If that's true, what would be the point of using robes over armor? I've only played about 6 levels as a mage so far and I haven't noticed whether or not the magicka was regenerating faster during combat. If not, what's the point of the robes?

Can anyone answer this?

Thanks!

The complaint is adding 300% mana regen does not seem to add the in combat regen. Seems that Bethesda wants you to use pots to manage your mana in combat. So just stick to picking flowers and chasing butterflies. Of course you can eventually get your casting cost to 0 mana with enchanting.

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:19 am

Seems that Bethesda wants you to use pots to manage your mana in combat.

Fairly baseless. Mana regen in combat is base regen. Which scales with mana pool. You can work out a very useful regen just by increasing the pool and raising skill to lower casting costs.

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:42 pm

Magicka does regen. Magicka regen bonuses do not.

The point would be that many robes have more enchants than just that. And that downtime between fights matters to some people.

Right, but if you were to use armor and enchanting, you'd could take the enchantment from the robe and toss it on some armor right? Not that that's the only/best option, just that you *could* do that right? And if so, wouldn't that make a player more combat effective than using the robe? (again, not that combat effectiveness is all one pursues in Skyrim).

The complaint is adding 300% mana regen does not seem to add the in combat regen. Seems that Bethesda wants you to use pots to manage your mana in combat. So just stick to picking flowers and chasing butterflies. Of course you can eventually get your casting cost to 0 mana with enchanting.

Interesting!

Thanks Everyone!

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:06 pm

Still a PITA. The argument is are robes worth it in the traditional sense of a mage wearing a robe. Personally, hell no. You get hit hard by everything and the benefits don't come anywhere near the costs of using it.

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:27 am

Right, but if you were to use armor and enchanting, you'd could take the enchantment from the robe and toss it on some armor right? Not that that's the only/best option, just that you *could* do that right? And if so, wouldn't that make a player more combat effective than using the robe? (again, not that combat effectiveness is all one pursues in Skyrim).

You *could.* It would require a heavy enchantment investment. It's not free.

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:11 am

You *could.* It would require a heavy enchantment investment. It's not free.

Nothing ever is. :no:
Thanks again!

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:12 am

mages are gimped overall, the magicka is far too slow to regenerate and spell costs too high, and destruction damage doesnt really increase over time and there are very few spells to choose from, and wards are a great idea that are rendered useless because of the massive magicka cost

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:45 am

Are you telling me i have been optimizing magicka regen this whole time, and it's been useless in combat?

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:07 am

Are you telling me i have been optimizing magicka regen this whole time, and it's been useless in combat?

Yes.

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:40 am

I just don't understand it.

Why are they so hard on the mage in Skyrim?

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:28 am

Yes.

well that svcks.

Does magicka regen scale with +magicka enchantments? (in combat of course)

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:49 pm

Your actually a whole hell of a lot better off enchanting some clothes ( I prefer them to robes) with some major Magicka buffs than using pre-made robes.

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:45 am

Your actually a whole hell of a lot better off enchanting some clothes ( I prefer them to robes) with some major Magicka buffs than using pre-made robes.

Only if you have high enchanting. At the beginning of the game you can get a hood with +30 magicka.
You know what enchant you can make at that same time? +1 magicka

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:09 am

Magicka does regen. Magicka regen bonuses do not.

The point would be that many robes have more enchants than just that. And that downtime between fights matters to some people.

Then I have to ask: What about the increased magica regen perks avaivable in restoration? Do they add to combat regen?

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:01 am

Then I have to ask: What about the increased magica regen perks avaivable in restoration? Do they add to combat regen?

Well of course they do... on'... I... may...

I have no idea.

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:37 pm

Only if you have high enchanting. At the beginning of the game you can get a hood with +30 magicka.
You know what enchant you can make at that same time? +1 magicka

By level 5, you have enough money to get BS/Ench to 100. Really that hard part is going out and grabbing all the souls you need. Start early.

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:41 am

Then I have to ask: What about the increased magica regen perks avaivable in restoration? Do they add to combat regen?

I don't think any magical regen ups in combat regen.

On a side note, am I the only one pissed that they added regen health and still have wait healing? I mean, talk about redundancy.

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:10 am

Only if you have high enchanting. At the beginning of the game you can get a hood with +30 magicka.
You know what enchant you can make at that same time? +1 magicka

I know, I was speaking in meta-game terms.

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:31 pm

Wait those perks in restoration don't work during combat? Tell me it ain't so. I just gimped my battlemage. God damnit Bethesda. You guys are geniuses but sometimes you don't make sense!

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:14 am

I don't think any magical regen ups in combat regen.

On a side note, am I the only one pissed that they added regen health and still have wait healing? I mean, talk about redundancy.

maybe wait regen is just passive regen happening while you are waiting?

» Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:17 am

The regen bonuses work in combat, but magicka regenerates slower overall in combat.