Magika : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:47 pm

What truley is magika? Is it something thats part of you? Is it your soul?

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:46 pm

What truley is magika? Is it something thats part of you? Is it your soul?

Energy that is leaking from the aerithrus. And these leaks are the holes you see in the sky, known as the sun and stars. They were formed just before Mundus was completed, when Magnus left (creating the sun) and a lot of other lesser spirits went with him (stars)

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:03 pm

Energy, light or matter from Aetherius, which is the orderly half of the universe. Inert, crystallized potential set against the self-contorting chaos of Oblivion.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:18 am

Another story is that magic is the remains of Magnus' presence in the Mundus. He barely managed to escape with his life, but some part of him lingers on in the world, and that is what spellcasters shape to produce their effects.

I was under the impression that the stuff from Aetherius is called "raw creatia" and that acquiring the stuff is a bit more difficult than casting ordinary spells, requiring either a trip to Aetherius itself (really, really hard to do), or deals with Daedra to harvest the cast-off parts in Oblivion (which is how the Ayleids got theirs).

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:28 pm

Creatia is just another word for Magicka, just not as worn down. I presume that what comes in through the stars and the sun aren't exactly the quantities you'd need to radically change the world.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:14 pm

It's some magical energy or something like that...

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:14 pm

What abour daedrons? I remember hearing that word in Morrowind for explaining magic.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:46 am

I'm not sure what a daedron actually is or what it is.
But I get the feeling it's some kind of energy that could change the course of Oblivions streams of magicka.
Or it's the Spheres.

http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/itermerels_notes.shtml

» Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:09 am

Ah, I love these type of threads, you get to learn a lot of neat things about magic!

Question: Is it possible to somehow gain access to Aetherius?

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:22 pm

From what I recall, Aetherius is the source of all magicka. I don't know the details, but everyone else seems to be filling them in, albeit a different story from each poster as per usual. :lol:

I do think it would be pretty cool to actually explore Aetherius in a future Elder Scrolls title, even if it's not part of the game's main plot line. Although considering all the custom scenery, textures, props and creatures that would go into building something as important to the series as Aetherius, if we ever do get to visit, it probably will end up being part of the main plot line.

We've seen Hellblivion, now it's time for Heavetherius!

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:23 pm

Ah, I love these type of threads, you get to learn a lot of neat things about magic!

Question: Is it possible to somehow gain access to Aetherius?

Visit to Aetherius occur even less frequently than to Oblivion, for the void is a long expanse and only the stars offer portal for aetherial travel, or the judicious use of magic. The expeditions of the Reman Dynasty and the Sun Birds of Alinor are the most famous attempts in our histories, and it is a cosmic irony that both of them were eventually dissolved for the same reason: the untenable expenditures required to reach magic by magicka. Their only legacy is the Royal Imperial Mananauts of the Elder Council and the great Orrery at Firsthold, whose spheres are made up of genuine celestial mineral gathered by travelers during the Merethic Era.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:52 pm

If I'm not mistaken, the player character visits the realm of Aetherius in Daggerfall.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:27 pm

Yes, however, whatever we see from there and whoever we meet there may or may not be the most up to date canon ever since Aetherius was changed from 'just another realm' to 'the infinite shell around the infinite shell which wraps the finite world.'

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:08 pm

Power straight from the realm of Aetherius, free for those with the power to harvest...

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:51 pm

Energy that is leaking from the aerithrus. And these leaks are the holes you see in the sky, known as the sun and stars. They were formed just before Mundus was completed, when Magnus left (creating the sun) and a lot of other lesser spirits went with him (stars)

Really? I sometimes wonder why or when they created this massive amount of Lore, while most RPGs would just settle with "magic is magic" or something. Did they know they had an awesome franchise on their hands while creating Arena and Daggerfall?

Very interesting....

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:58 am

Basically the way I heard it is that Magicka is the worn-down, filtered-through-Oblivion waste of magnus that used to be pure magic. Dracocrysalis can be used to preserve ancient magic from degrading into Magicka, but it is difficult.

Magicka-for-Barbarians:

Basically, the sun is Magnus' toilet-hole, the waste is magic, the dissolved waste is magicka.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:45 pm

Basically the way I heard it is that Magicka is the worn-down, filtered-through-Oblivion waste of magnus that used to be pure magic. Dracocrysalis can be used to preserve ancient magic from degrading into Magicka, but it is difficult.

Magicka-for-Barbarians:

Basically, the sun is Magnus' toilet-hole, the waste is magic, the dissolved waste is magicka.

What is Dracocysalis?

~runs to imperial library~

» Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:32 am

What is Dracocysalis?

~runs to imperial library~

Kind of like putting something in a vacuum container. It's not usable in there, but it won't rot or degrade. I'm not sure how they do it, being it's the whole "magic by magicka" problem. Somebody probably knows it, I'm more the politics and human drama guy than mystic here anyway.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:38 pm

Draco = Dragon = Akatosh = Time

Chrysalis = to make a cocoon

Take from that what you will.

» Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:22 am

Draco = Dragon = Akatosh = Time

Chrysalis = to make a cocoon

Take from that what you will.

Thank you

I'm going to assume there is no way your average mage would be capable of creating time cocoons as that would fall into god territory?

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:22 am

Thank you

I'm going to assume there is no way your average mage would be capable of creating time cocoons as that would fall into god territory?

Well, not 'average." But groups of freakishly wise and powerful mages have done so. Magic being embodied possibility or somesuch, even it's runoff (magicka) is like a weaker version of that. So hard yes, impossible no.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:56 pm

Well here is another question (sorry if I ask too much!) if Ebony is the blood of the gods, then could it be feasible that Ebony contains creatia?

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:24 pm

Inquiries correctly phrased are a good thing. Yes. They have alchemical/magical properties, do they not?

Well, not 'average." But groups of freakishly wise and powerful mages have done so.

Well, yes. Anyone who's wise to the Walkabout can do this. Cyrus actually killed one of these chrysali, and guess whose it was? Yes, the big guys himselves, Tiber Septim's. And don't think the casting off of the old skin was undesired. The chrysalis has to die for the new man's sake, after all.

» Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:45 am

Wasn't Zurin Arctus blasted into Aetherius when he tried to stop the Numidium? Or was that just his heart that ended up there...?

ehhh anyway I'm curious about that now o.o

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:57 pm

He was blasted, but he couldn't die because his heart/life force had been placed in the Mantella to power the Numidium. Or so the story goes. Imagine waking up with no skin on your bones.