Hi everybody,

I was just browsing the UESP Wiki and I accidentally came across an Akaviri lore page.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akaviri

Well guess what, the Akaviri banner is exactly the same as the symbol that you see when you go to elderscrolls.com - the teaser site. Coincidence? Highly unlikely.

Also, some guy wrote a pretty good trailer anolysis and also concludes that the main story is about an Akaviri invasion.

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=9066169

I think this is pretty unoriginal from Bethesda because Oblivion was about an "Oblivion" invasion, and Skyrim is about an Akaviri invasion. Why so much invasions? Morrowind or Daggerfall, on the other hand, were not about invasions and were much better games than Oblivion.

Well, that's just my opinion, what do you think?

Oh mein gott. Not this again. The USEP page is in error. Not related to Akavir, its the imperial symbol and avatar of akatosh. Its in every game in the series and appears on the imperial septim.

The Skyrim logo is also the symbol of the Empire and was on the Morrowind box.

Well,

if it's an error then why doesn't it get removed.

Anyway, you didn't say if you think it will be about Akaviri or not.

Note that it says "An Akaviri inspired banner" not "An Akaviri Banner."

However, I am unsure as to whether it will be an Akaviri invasion or not in Skyrim.

i want it to be an akaviri invasion- but none of this black versus white crap like they did in oblivion. i know mehrunes dagon just likes to destroy things and its set in the lore that he ONLY likes destroying stuff- but it seemed so stupid "dis cult wants everyone to die so they open up da portals hur dur"


perhaps something big and deep, like the tiger people attacking tamriel because they are sick of fighting the snake people and just want to escape the madness. or some other conflict on akavir, coupled with some insane skyrim politics that require a mastermind to figure out wtf is going on. the two should combine into some insane plot with lots of twists and turns and multiple endings (not an ending for the player, just a movie that highlights the state of skyrim after you do your part

Mysterious Akavir.

I think it's just http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1153829-huge-leak-akaviri-attack/.

What do Akaviri look like anyway?

I hope we will not be able to use Akaviri armor. I would be more realistic if we could only use Akaviri weapons.

Well,

that thread got locked because the moderator thought it was misleading people.

But I really want to know what people think about Akaviri so I opened another, different thread. Hope you don't mind.

I hope so. TES needs some asians.

akaviri look like....


well, there are tiger people, who i imagine look like very muscular khajits with a few big cat features, then the snake people have a differing degree of snakeness- some guys think they are a more snake like argonian, others think they might forgo legs for a tail. there are also monkey people and dragons

'tis's a possibility... but there are more as likely possibilities...


As for Oblivion, I think it's an awesome game. I think Morrowind is an awesome game too. And not every invasion is the same. And why would it be only the invasion? An invasion and civil war at the same time would be epic... and catastrophic... i like it...

oh.. and the symbol has nothing to do with the Akavir invasion...

Well, as far as anyone knows, Dragons only really roam free in Akavir. They were driven away from Tamriel ages ago. So it's a possibility, I guess, that the DRAGONS come from Akavir. But the rest of the Akaviri races? Probably not.

IIRC, the dragons are all but extinct in Akavir. I think they were used in a war between the Ka Po Tun and Tsaeci.

The Ka Po' Tun need to kill or commandeer the snake peoples naval fleet in order to invade. All there assets have been compromised to deal with the snakes after their alliance with the Tang Mo. Just a guess.

Oh, a probability.

Its not a probability it's 100% correct my dear man. IMO

That's really a pretty big guess.

I'm hoping for this hur hur

http://1Rich1.deviantart.com/art/Dovahkiin-fights-Tosh-Raka-191405000?q=&qo=

I sincerly hope it is an Akaviri invasion. It would be an interesting addition to the lore as well as add a lot of much needed variety to the game. Just because the game is called Skyrim doesn't mean that part of the action can't take place on Akavir. (Oblivion being an example) Being able to explore parts of Akavir and possibly be involved in Akaviri politics would be cool.

In fact it would be great to have a quick follow-on to Skyrim called Akavir (like Fallout New Vegas was a follow on)

Storm

Unless this guy is correct and they're all extinct in Akavir as well:


Either way, I don't think we'll be seeing anything from Akavir in Skyrim. Though I hope we do soon, I think it's about time for Bethesda open up a can of mega-lore and just go crazy. You've got the Sload, the races of Akavir, tons more Daedra and Aedra than we've seen thus far, and that elvish race whose name I forget currently... You've got another continent on the other side of Nirn, IIRC.

I dont know. Having dragons in a fantasy game is so unoriginal.

Every rpg fantasy game that came out lately has a dragon in it: Dragon Age, Divinity 2 Ego Draconis, Gothic 3, TES Skyrim and so on.

Every development team now puts dragons in games because they think dragons make money. Dragons are a lame and outdated idea. Think of something different devs pls, like giant snakes, giant two-headed apes, giant flying monsters, giant octopus like monsters etc.

I agree. I remember when I my friend showed me a dreugh in Morrowind, and was like "dude, its a creature ive never seen like in any game" and I thogght it was original. The same with the land dreugh. i was like "in Morrowind, they are squit-like sea creatures, but in Cyrodiil, they have evolve to fit the climate and can walk on land!" I just think it was a very original idea. But now we get the cliche "Dragons have come to take our lands", and even worse the "You must forfill the forseen prophesy to save us from the evil ancient army that is told to destroy us!" Come on man, even Lotr and DA:O had this typical fantasy story.

I also felt the same about Morrowind. It was a game with such original design ideas, original creatures, quests and story line. It was like being in an entirely different universe. But Oblivion on the other hand was so typical and seen-it-all-before that I almost hate it.

Well, apparently it's simpler than that: the Ka Po' Tun are just bad at seafaring (they're cat people after all), so they never set foot on Tamriel.

Yes, they also have an alliance with the Tang Mo, the monkey people, but that race is fairly primitive and involved with their own local struggles against the Kamal. The Kamal are a demon race who dwell underground most of the year and emerge every year and try to conquer the Tang Mo, so far they've not succeeded. They tried to invade Morrowind once, but were defeated by Amalexia and the Underking.

The Tsaesci or "Snake Palace" hunted the dragons to extinction in Akavir (think: Dragonscale Armor). The black dragons allied with the Ka Po' Tun before supposedly going into hiding to avoid the same fate as their red cousins. Dragons of Vvardenfell were driven to extinction by invasive cliffracer populations. Any remaining dragons are rumored to live high on isolated mountain tops (Sounds like Skyrim to me, just sayin')

The Tsaesci are the only Akaviri race to make any decent inroads on the continent of Tamriel. They rely on avaviri goblins for their food and labor.. In 1E 2703 they tried to invade Tamriel by way of Skyrim, but were defeated by the emperor Reman I at Pale Pass. He allowed the defeated Tsaesci to serve in his war against the elves and they eventually integrated into society (think: Imperial Dragonscale Armor), and even took the throne for 400 years until the usurper's descendants were eliminated by the Morag Tong in 2E 431.

Here's my current prediction: The Tsaeaci see the empire weakened after the oblivion crisis and try to invade again through a similar route as before, the end of the Septim bloodline leaves the provinces fractured and a serious power vacuum (It's as good a time as any to invade). a possibility is that the dragons come out of hiding, maybe to aid in a resistance or possibly be involved in naming the Dragon Born as a hero who will fight for the freedom of Tamirel.


response to posts that came in while I was typing: I would love to see a return to Morrowind spirited creature design. The Underfyrke, horkers, those were gold. Minotaurs? not so much. It would be nice to see Dragons make a kind of cameo appearence, but not play a central role. That would duly add to their mystery and intrigue while not pandering to the overused fantasy tropes. Also: I will be absolutely overjoyed the first time i see a Sload.