^ Nowhere is it mentioned in any game why the Ceph want the Earth. The Ice Sphere was a much more effective area denial weapon than the spore towers are. The spore towers are countered by bio hazard suits and gas masks. The Ice Sphere instantly killed anyone who wasnt in a Nanosuit. The Ceph were also completely unharmed by this Ice Sphere.

The alien spores are an easier way of killing the population. Why shoot them all and waste ammo when you can just infect them all and have them be turned to mush in an instant?



Yeah cause its so much easier to make a biological warfare agent that takes several seconds/minutes/days to kill, instead of freezing everything to death in an instant...

That would make sense if the Ceph were pointlessly killing inhabitants of a planet. They want it for resources. If you played both games. That would be clear to you. It is exponentially more efficient to use a bio weapon that only harms living being regardless. As you can see, the humans can put up a fight. Why endanger more Ceph when they can let their own disease destroy the humans without doing so?

Ahm and if you would have played the first game you would have noticed that the sphere basically have killed everything inside it in an instant.. Resources are still usable and the freezing cold also only harms endotherm beeings at a much greater effect. If we go by efficiency the freeze dome is far more effecient then the spores, especial when you want to wipe out a city.

Yeah cause its so much easier to make a biological warfare agent that takes several seconds/minutes/days to kill, instead of freezing everything to death in an instant...

That would make sense if the Ceph were pointlessly killing inhabitants of a planet. They want it for resources. If you played both games. That would be clear to you. It is exponentially more efficient to use a bio weapon that only harms living being regardless. As you can see, the humans can put up a fight. Why endanger more Ceph when they can let their own disease destroy the humans without doing so?

Ahm and if you would have played the first game you would have noticed that the sphere basically have killed everything inside it in an instant.. Resources are still usable and the freezing cold also only harms endothermic beeings at a much greater effect. If we go by efficiency the freeze dome is far more effecient then the spores, especial when you want to wipe out a city.

Did you read everything I posted? They want the planet for resources. This was stated several times. Even in game. This would effectively kill anything living. Do you even remember what the temperatures inside the dome were?

Did you know how the dome was even created? Do you remember the nuke hitting the citadel or are you just thinking they have unlimited energy like the rest of the clueless people here?

Main reason crysis 2 is a new story.

Here is how I explain the difference in the aliens and the time between Crysis1 and Crysis2

A long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...(LOL)
Here it goes: (Spoiler)
The aliens that we see in NY are the original colonists of earth that came here billion of years ago.
They arrived on earth to colonise it and for the natural resources, at that time we had only the one continent and the rest of the planet was covered by oceans so it seemed like a perfect planet to start a colony on.
This earth CEPH adapted to the gravity of earth over years and years, creating bipedal suits and becoming more tolerable to earth's environment.
They had both contact and exchange of resources and technology with the home planet over those years.
One day a great cataclysm hit the earth very suddenly not allowing even a distress call to be sent, a polar shift which caused the single continent to break up and to start drifting, eventually forming the earth as we know it today.
At the time of the cataclysm the earth CEPH suffered great losses in numbers and the remainder of the survivors was forced to go deep in to the ocean for protection, unfortunately the safety they found also became their prison, trapping them at the bottom of the ocean. To survive they decided to go into a hibernating state.
After a while and no communication from earth the CEPH decided to send out scouting party to find out what happened to the earth CEPH.
After some time the CEPH scouting party came to earth and found a strange new world nothing like they were told about, there was also no sign of the earth CEPH.
On returning home and informing them of the strange world they have found the CEPH decided to prepare a secondary expedition force to retake the planet and find out what happened to the earth CEPH. This took time but a expedition finally left the CEPH home planet for earth.
As they were approaching earth they were hit by a solar flare, knocking out and draining their power causing the ship to crash on an island.
At that time the earth was suffering from asteroid strikes and was enveloped in a nuclear winter.
Having no sun as a source of power and having limited power themselves, they then sent out scouts to survey the land and to see if they can find any source of power that they can use to repower the ship, unfortunately there was none and so with that they sent out a signal back home saying: "Don't come for us, earth is unstable for colonization , await our awakening when things calm down."
The whole expedition went into hibernation, including the scouts that where now all around the world.
Years past and the ship was covered by sand and eventually was cocooned in the earth not receiving any light for millennia.
Eventually humans came to what we know them today and as the climate changed the earth CEPH where released from their prison (due to earthquakes and continues continental shift) as they came up to the surface they found a new dominant lifeform on earth, us. As any intelligent species they first wanted to study us and to find out our weaknesses before attacking us and so they created in secret cells all over the world to observe and study us.
In the mean time humans found the fossil remains of some of the scouts that were forced to power down from the second expedition force (Tunguska incident)
Couple years past and some technology emerged from the research of the stolen alien technology like the nanosuit.
A second site was found with fossils on an island in the Pacific. Hargreave decides to send Prophet with a team of special forces "to get the researches out", in reality they were sent as test subject. (Crysis 1 starts)
When the fighting awakes the expedition force of CEPH they start to drain power from the humans and start to wake each other up. eventually the nuke gives them enough power and they link up with all the cells on earth (earth CEPHs).
During their fighting they send out a signal to home world informing them of what has happened, and the new threat.
After Prophet returns to the island by borrowing the ship, he discovers the more information about the CEPH and decides to go back to Hargreave to report.
He then leaves Nomad and Psycho to carry on fighting as he goes back to inform Hargreave about what he found.
He removes his suit for the journey back home.
Due to amount of time spent in the suits without taking them of the special forces personal become walking dead man, if they remove the suits they will start to die, unfortunately they don't know that and Prophet starts to get sick on the journey back.
On his arrival at Hargreave he is placed in V2 Nanosuit to save his life and he is told the truth (Video where he gets pissed off) He is then told to go back which he does and discovers the cells all over the world. (Not sure from the vids but to me it seemed that he got teleported back into NY cell from the island...) Since he was one of the first to come into contact with the CEPH at NY before they came out of hiding he gets contaminated there. He returns again to Hargreave and they start with their testing of the virus. At that time earth CEPH already started to spread the virus.
At the same time as Crysis1 happens the earth CEPH decide that time is now to strike as they have found a biological agent to kill humans. They slowly start to release the agent first for testing and then full scale for invasion purposes. (Crysis2 begins)
At some point Prophet gets in touch with Gould and they both decide to try and stop the CEPH as Hargreave is mad. Crysis2

As I see it then you can have up to 3 different CEPH.
Earth CEPH evolved on earth(Crysis2)
Exploration CEPH (Crysis1)
Main CEPH (can have even more different technology as they developed during the hibernation of the first two CEPH factions)
This is my explanation to myself to fill in the holes in the story as best as I can, it is not perfect what you guys think?

You can read comments and some peoples suggestions here:
http://www.gamesas.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=22772

This thread is jam packed with virgins.
just like your mom.


i did it for the lulz

i dont see a reason why ceph would need never mind be able to de-volve so much in 3 years!

Alien warrior: Could destroy literally entire cities - also could spawn a RED HUNTER - which is basically a more powerfull Hunter - Crysis Warhead anyone?

Lets face it consoles ruined Crysis story also along w/graphics and online

i call BS still... you are making this up as you go along to defend C2...
Why cold weapons would work anywhere where there is moisture - the MOAR and MOCR(dont know if the name of the 2nd one i got right MOAR is right for sure) worked by freezing water molecules in air and then accelerationg then hence MOlecularAcceleRator...

also - suit beaing weapon - BS!!!!

dude - i wanna blow up the big enemy boss with my top secret tac cannon which is suppose to be intergrated with the nanosuit but is only at the prototype test and has not been field tested yet


I'm serious now....did you REALLY play Crysis 2? Crap, did you even play Crysis 1 or did you just watch youtube cutscenes? LOL

I'm not making anything up, I just payed attention to the story -_-" Defend Crysis 2? Who said I'm trying to defend in this thread, I'm merely explaining the story (although I DO support Crysis 2 and Crytek, because I'm a true fan and blah blah blah).

First off, replay Crysis 1 and Warhead, LISTEN TO EVERY LINE. They talk about the aliens being resource effective.

Second off, using moisture to freeze and etc. etc......ALIENS NEED ENERGY in order to be able TO SHOOT FREEZE RAYS. You only explained HOW it was done. You're not getting my point when I say that it CAN"T be done for them, not effectively, efficiently, and prolonged, UNLESS they manage to find random amounts of huge energy or another source for power.

Third off, AGAIN, did you PLAY Crysis 2? The nanosuit IS the weapon. What the **** did you think Hargreave was making you do when he made you go into spore spears? He was prepping the suit up! The nanosuit 2 can create counterspores. Counterspores kills aliens. The counterspores are like the bullets from the nanosuit 2, the gun/weapon.

And don't overrate the TAC part of the game. TAC is fun to use like in sandbox, but I mean, the final boss in Crysis 1 was overrated. Well NOW it's overrated, jump back to Crysis 1's release and people say it was "meh." The initial reaction to Crysis 1 was ultimately "WHOA BEAUTIFUL GRAPHICS, but derp, boring/mediocre gameplay." I think gameplay is above mediocre, but that was just me, and my opinion stands the same.

i dont see a reason why ceph would need never mind be able to de-volve so much in 3 years!

Alien warrior: Could destroy literally entire cities - also could spawn a RED HUNTER - which is basically a more powerfull Hunter - Crysis Warhead anyone?

Lets face it consoles ruined Crysis story also along w/graphics and online

Alien warrior destroying entire cities? WHERE THE **** are you getting this info.? Remember that armada of aliens from Crysis 1? ORDINARY HUMANS ENDED UP KILLING THE WHOLE ARMADA as they traveled the world. In Crysis 2, people with stronger weapons and nanosuits are NEEDED to fight the new Ceph. Which brings me to another point, the Ceph did not "de-volve" they merely adapted to earth as it is currently to them. They are ancient creatures and I already explained that they needed to be less resource heavy since humans are using much energy and etc.

I think you're in **** denial man. You just WANT to hate Crysis 2 and blame it on consoles. Newsflash: If this game was a PC exclusive, it would BE THE EXACT SAME AS IT IS NOW, except DX11 would be done and Crytek wouldn't need to have to finish up through patches and updates since they had extra time to finish it off. Newsflash 2: Crysis 1 was originally meant to be on consoles. It actualyl RAN on PS3 according to Cevat Yerli, just not well. The console memories are what hold them back. Everything else is actually set. Noob.

Learn your DAMN info.

i call BS still... you are making this up as you go along to defend C2...
Why cold weapons would work anywhere where there is moisture - the MOAR and MOCR(dont know if the name of the 2nd one i got right MOAR is right for sure) worked by freezing water molecules in air and then accelerationg then hence MOlecularAcceleRator...

also - suit beaing weapon - BS!!!!

dude - i wanna blow up the big enemy boss with my top secret tac cannon which is suppose to be intergrated with the nanosuit but is only at the prototype test and has not been field tested yet


I'm serious now....did you REALLY play Crysis 2? Crap, did you even play Crysis 1 or did you just watch youtube cutscenes? LOL

I'm not making anything up, I just payed attention to the story -_-" Defend Crysis 2? Who said I'm trying to defend in this thread, I'm merely explaining the story (although I DO support Crysis 2 and Crytek, because I'm a true fan and blah blah blah).

First off, replay Crysis 1 and Warhead, LISTEN TO EVERY LINE. They talk about the aliens being resource effective.

Second off, using moisture to freeze and etc. etc......ALIENS NEED ENERGY in order to be able TO SHOOT FREEZE RAYS. You only explained HOW it was done. You're not getting my point when I say that it CAN"T be done for them, not effectively, efficiently, and prolonged, UNLESS they manage to find random amounts of huge energy or another source for power.

Third off, AGAIN, did you PLAY Crysis 2? The nanosuit IS the weapon. What the **** did you think Hargreave was making you do when he made you go into spore spears? He was prepping the suit up! The nanosuit 2 can create counterspores. Counterspores kills aliens. The counterspores are like the bullets from the nanosuit 2, the gun/weapon.

And don't overrate the TAC part of the game. TAC is fun to use like in sandbox, but I mean, the final boss in Crysis 1 was overrated. Well NOW it's overrated, jump back to Crysis 1's release and people say it was "meh." The initial reaction to Crysis 1 was ultimately "WHOA BEAUTIFUL GRAPHICS, but derp, boring/mediocre gameplay." I think gameplay is above mediocre, but that was just me, and my opinion stands the same.

actually i did play Crysis 1 over again before posting this thread mate...

problem is the aliens gathered energy from ANY energy source- for example SUN RAYS? Electrical equipment?
DUH!!! there is enough things out and about for them to gather enough energy...

as for the be the weapon ****... i think its a cheap way of cheating you out of **** on aliens with some Gauss justice... And i did play C2 through as well as Warhead please dont tr0ll moar...

If you REALLY cannot see the huge plot holes you're either blind or pig-ignorant!

In C1 nanosuit worked more as a transmitter where as in C2 it magically transforms into a Bio-weapon...

Also how did prophet change nanosuits into V2 if they were symbiotic? explain please Mr. Crysis defender of faith....

srsly

i dont see a reason why ceph would need never mind be able to de-volve so much in 3 years!

Alien warrior: Could destroy literally entire cities - also could spawn a RED HUNTER - which is basically a more powerfull Hunter - Crysis Warhead anyone?

Lets face it consoles ruined Crysis story also along w/graphics and online

Alien warrior destroying entire cities? WHERE THE **** are you getting this info.? Remember that armada of aliens from Crysis 1? ORDINARY HUMANS ENDED UP KILLING THE WHOLE ARMADA as they traveled the world. In Crysis 2, people with stronger weapons and nanosuits are NEEDED to fight the new Ceph. Which brings me to another point, the Ceph did not "de-volve" they merely adapted to earth as it is currently to them. They are ancient creatures and I already explained that they needed to be less resource heavy since humans are using much energy and etc.

I think you're in **** denial man. You just WANT to hate Crysis 2 and blame it on consoles. Newsflash: If this game was a PC exclusive, it would BE THE EXACT SAME AS IT IS NOW, except DX11 would be done and Crytek wouldn't need to have to finish up through patches and updates since they had extra time to finish it off. Newsflash 2: Crysis 1 was originally meant to be on consoles. It actualyl RAN on PS3 according to Cevat Yerli, just not well. The console memories are what hold them back. Everything else is actually set. Noob.

Learn your DAMN info.

im not the one in denial here! The only way the **** Warrior was destroyed was because of nanosuit transmitting a signal not some Bio-****! Also you needed a TAC cannon and i assure you i bet that was one of a kind... so lets say another Warrior was unleashed upon NYC... How would humans defend against freez rays and the singularity cannon? never mind Warrior being able to spawn countless enemies and having shields to protect itself from ANY KIND OF **** MISSILES!!!?!

please learn to appriciate something supperion on almost EVERY level - Crysis

except multi which svcked on C1

I disagree.

1. Doesn't make sense. How do you know how much power they constantly required to run? I'd probably say very little as they managed to fly around for the entire game without any direct power sources.


3. Emphasis on the Nanosuit and the 2.0. Why is it a downgrade? Why is it ridiculously bulky?

4. The new design is because "oooo tatz zo cool!!!!" Prophet wearing the suit makes him look super buff. He looked normal in the first game. "The streamline allows for constant maximum speed and strength, thus, suit is buff." Really?

5. Yes, the natural evolution in 3 years is to go from walking to flying when you're trying to conquer the world.



Interesting thoughts. I'll only give my 2 cents on these as I don't have a lot of time.

The flying thing. Well, if it's meant inside the ship, I thought that would be rather obvious. The Alien's ship had a Zero-G environment. So yeah, everyone "flew" in there. Outside, not many aliens flew. Most walked around or JUMPED hella far. There were some flying ships but no more than there are in Cry2.
Besides, we don't know that there were actually aliens inside the 4 legged thingys. I was under the impression they were drones of some sort. We never saw an alien body in one.
**EDIT**
Ok, that's not entirely correct. There were the much larger ships that looked like the matrix badguys ... i forget their name right now:) but the smaller critters didn't fly, only larger "ship" sized and those mostly in Warhead.. or at least we ran into more of them. A lot changed from Cry1 to Warhead.

Alien Color. The EYES and other areas of power are red. The Bodies are an pinkish orangish something. In the alien ship in Cry 1, they were gold or transparent (bluish) color. Now, the lighting was different in the ship and there was zero-g and colder. With all that, you could reason the slightly different appearance.
From a game design point, red is an "Aggressive" color so cold blue contrasting with red makes for a good evil enemy. Basic color scheming.

The suit thing. If you watch Prophet's flashbacks, we are told that he went BACK to the island. Yeah yeah.. there's a **** ton of things were aren't told as to what happened there. That isn't a plot hole. But we're told that the first visit was to test the suits. So, the next suit was improved to deal with the Ceph better. I'm guessing the means the suit needed to be buffed up beyond the first. And with only a couple of years to alter the design, i would say that some short cuts were taken that resulted in it not being as sleek as the former.
(and besides dude, it looks better. sheesh.) : )

The environment not being cold. I'm thinking they learned to adapt. but yeah. this was probably changed purely for game play's sake.

In the end, no, this isn't Crysis 1. Consoles can not handle the streaming sandbox that was Crysis 1, so we see large open areas that give us options; not as many as Cry 1, but a whole lot more than your standard shooter. Look at gears of war.

Anyways.. that's my 2 bits.

Remember that this is fantasy and they had a different writer. Even the Harry Potter books have inconsistencies in them and Rowling took great care to minimize their occurrence.

Oh, btw, with more than one observation in the original list, the thread title should be plural. "holes". ; )

Cheers!

Duper thanks for grammar correction

I agree with you on some things - but not being able to atleast play as bloody prophet when he went back is such a disgrace...
Come on how many of you wanted to go back to the alien sphere after you killed the Alien Warrior and be like GET SUM!

Don't lie - i DID!

Meh NYC - CQB - CP (not child porm but console port dummy!)

I miss the giant alien ships and walking robots. They just made Crysis 1 so epic, they just made Nano-suit so epic.

One man, the ultimate weapon, standing face 2 face against a gigantic alien machine.



Crysis 2 Nano-suit = over-glorified tuxedo.

I miss the giant alien ships and walking robots. They just made Crysis 1 so epic, they just made Nano-suit so epic.

One man, the ultimate weapon, standing face 2 face against a gigantic alien machine.



Crysis 2 Nano-suit = over-glorified tuxedo.

lol too right mate!

i loved how the hunter would tower over you and your best bet against it was your weapons and nanosuit instead of relying on bio-weapon crap!!!

i loved how the Hunter would grab you with the tenticle-like things and throw you as if you were a uselss piece of ****!!!

LOADING UP CRYSIS SANDBOX NAOO!!

Come on how many of you wanted to go back to the alien sphere after you killed the Alien Warrior and be like GET SUM!

Don't lie - i DID!



lol ya got me there! I figured that's where Crysis 2 would take off from; chasing down Prophet... the stupid lunatic.
And that is something I wish they would have addressed a bit more. There were 100,000 of aliens leaving the sphere (if not a couple million) Where did they all go? to the various spires around the world? if they had the underground conduits (an idea post crysis 1) they wouldn't have needed to fly there ... right?
And what of the sphere??? I think the old guy made reference to it being an on-going covert military operation? Covert???? They dropped a nuke on it. lol China would have picked that up on satellite!

Oh well. : )

How come: Nanosuit 2 looks compleatly different from nanosuit 1

Come on, really? Just look at the wording.

How come: Nanosuit 2 looks compleatly different from nanosuit 1

Come on, really? Just look at the wording.

I think that the main hole in the nanosuit is that it's supposed to have been Prophet's suit. The one that was at lingshan and inside the alien "lithoship"... That's why Hargreave want's it so badly!
So why is it "nanosuit 2.0"??? Prophet's suit didn't look different from the rest of Raptor Team! And if Prophet got a new suit when he got to New York, then what's the big deal for him to give it to Alcatraz? And in that case, why is that particular suit so important to Hargreave??? It just doesn't make sense!

The only explanation that could, maybe, make sense (which, on second thought, is a pretty good explanation) is that when Prophet somehow got to New York (I highly doubt that he swam all the way from Ling-Shan) he went to Hargreave, (which we saw that he did in his flashbacks) and didn't get a new nanosuit, but his old suit was somhow "upgraded" into the Nanosuit 2.0. Sort of as if Prophet's old suit, the one from C1, is inside the suit that you see/wear in C2 (which would also account for why it's so much bulkier than Nanosuit 1.0.

That's the only theory that I can come up with. I only wish that they either gave a different explanation, or showed me explanation or a similar one in a flashback.

Come on how many of you wanted to go back to the alien sphere after you killed the Alien Warrior and be like GET SUM!

Don't lie - i DID!



lol ya got me there! I figured that's where Crysis 2 would take off from; chasing down Prophet... the stupid lunatic.
And that is something I wish they would have addressed a bit more. There were 100,000 of aliens leaving the sphere (if not a couple million) Where did they all go? to the various spires around the world? if they had the underground conduits (an idea post crysis 1) they wouldn't have needed to fly there ... right?
And what of the sphere??? I think the old guy made reference to it being an on-going covert military operation? Covert???? They dropped a nuke on it. lol China would have picked that up on satellite!

Oh well. : )

seems you have suddenly switched your POV?

anyhow - WHY THE HELL WOULD ALIENS CONTACT M33 GALAXY - 4million light years away

and prophet says - we should have been looking down all along? ORLY?
how come no alien spiracles in C1 or warhead? BULL-****-**** MAJOR!

i don't get why this has to be a discussion, the people from cryengine made this game not to be part of crysis 1 too much obviously, else they would have made more remarks to crysis 1 like all that sht u said about those earlier characters in the game.
only prophet which you probably only get to see for a bit extra of the people that did play crysis 1.

i myself did not play crysis 1 and if they would have made this story connect to the story of crysis 1 i wouldn't have got it and all those cutscenes and sht would have been like... MEH...? (think about console players? i know it's lame but cmon place yourself into cryengine)

still... is it that hard to use your imagination i mean there can be much that happens in 3 years, like why they aren't flying anymore... well i mean look at it this way: why would they equip every single alien with a jetpack or w/e if they can just put them in one gunship and drop em off...
you're saying thye went back in evolution but obviously their brain grew and they realised they don't have to waste recources.
they jump so far that they travel as fast walking as they travel flying, flying would only make them vulnerable.

i do agree on the end.. jump into a tower and every alien explodes.. i know they have logic for it but isn't that just too much of a cheap ending?

i was like... uhhhh... it's over?

Why do so many people think the aliens themselves can absorb energy from nuclear weapons fire? If that was the case then shooting the Alien Warrior (the last boss of Crysis 1) with the TAC Gun would only make it stronger. It was the Ice Sphere that absorbed energy. It expanded when they hit it with a small nuclear strike.

Why do so many people think the aliens themselves can absorb energy from nuclear weapons fire? If that was the case then shooting the Alien Warrior (the last boss of Crysis 1) with the TAC Gun would only make it stronger. It was the Ice Sphere that absorbed energy. It expanded when they hit it with a small nuclear strike.

call a couple of megatons small if you wish...

anyhow - the reason why warrior died was because the alien shields were down!
Also remember it was shot inside the hull meaning all of the energy went only one direction - out! and with no shield to hold it together the inside of the hull was flooded with gamma rays - nuclear fireball - and ridiciolous radiation!

seems you have suddenly switched your POV?

anyhow - WHY THE HELL WOULD ALIENS CONTACT M33 GALAXY - 4million light years away

and prophet says - we should have been looking down all along? ORLY?
how come no alien spiracles in C1 or warhead? BULL-****-**** MAJOR!


no.. not entirely. I did concede with reservation when I mentioned Harry Potter and mention of a different writer.

M33. .... well duh! isn't there going to be a Crysis 2350...ISN'T there??!! XD

incidentally: M33

: )

Why do so many people think the aliens themselves can absorb energy from nuclear weapons fire? If that was the case then shooting the Alien Warrior (the last boss of Crysis 1) with the TAC Gun would only make it stronger. It was the Ice Sphere that absorbed energy. It expanded when they hit it with a small nuclear strike.

call a couple of megatons small if you wish...

anyhow - the reason why warrior died was because the alien shields were down!
Also remember it was shot inside the hull meaning all of the energy went only one direction - out! and with no shield to hold it together the inside of the hull was flooded with gamma rays - nuclear fireball - and ridiciolous radiation!

It's amazing that you're able to put together reasoning like this and still be unable to follow a story like the rest of the world. That's the real amazing thing about this thread. A few people coming out of the woodwork turning tiny mysteries and small hiccups into giant cliffhangers and paradoxes. You should be asking yourselves why you're unable to understand what other people do. When people watch or read stories they try to understand it. Not try to discredit it. But that's what you're doing. You're not giving it any logical thought how the story would make sense if some of the users posts in here were true. Which is a total contradiction because you still pipe up from the peanut gallery to say how it's NOT true.

I'm sick of repeating my post because the new or even the same people come in the thread with new opinions and questions. Not one thing being a plot hole. Just asking questions because they weren't insightful enough to think of an answer on their own or their seething hatred for Crytek stopped them from taking the time to. But they take the time to think up how something is a plot hole. Which is simply stupid.

Crimzin1, I never do this but you have a weird combination of a superiority complex and illiteracy. Whyyyyyyyy do you have to be so arrogant? I don't want to write this crap. This is probably the saddest thing I've ever done and the story isn't anywhere near worth this, but you're just too annoying to ignore.


You're asking for the EXACT amount of energy it requires to run? That's why you disagree? You didn't see any direct link to the flying machines and resources so it didn't happen, right? WRONG! It was stated several times that it takes a lot of power to fuel the Ceph. That includes there flying operations. It isn't declared untrue just because you don't see a visible "connection." That's almost as stupid as them reminding you time and again how resource effective the Ceph are, just in case.No, I'm asking how he knows how much power it uses. I don't remember anything in Crysis 1 about how they fly, or how much power they need to fly, only that they want power, not their consumption rate.

It isn't declared untrue just because you don't see a visible "connection." That's almost as stupid as them reminding you time and again how resource effective the Ceph are, just in case.
Seriously, if you can't read truthfully in the first place, don't keep going on as though you're onto something. I didn't say anything like that and yet here you go with random rambling nonsense which has nothing to do with anything anyone has ever said.

How is it a downgrade? Why is ridiculously bulky a reason why what he said not true? Oh, that's right, it isn't. Because the suit is weaker in strength and speed mode. Ever play the first game? Oh, right. You obviously didn't because then you'd be making sense.

Are the best fighters champion body builders? Are the best runners champion body builders? No. Being bulky has nothing to do with how fast you can run and the skinnier nanosuit 1.0 is stronger than the fatter 2.0. The fact is they changed the looks because they think it looks cooler and would appeal to more.

Notice how as tech advances, it ideally gets smaller but stronger or more powerful? I'd be fine with the nanosuit 2.0 trying to look cool if it was actually stronger than 1.0 but it isn't.

Firstly.. why the **** am I proving the suit size to not be a plot hole? Secondly... It's obvious it was upgraded. Why does it have to look identical? IT DOESN'T! It's an UPGRADE. How is it visually an upgrade? How does the fact that it looks like a fat suit mean it's an obvious upgrade? No one is saying it has to look identical. The original question was why is it trying to look so badass and tough when the original suit was stronger and faster. I feel like it's going to be useless anyway because you read selectively.

HUMAN or EARTH natural evolution is not the same as CEPH natural evolution. He's referring to adapting to the battle conditions. It's an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT LOCATION! There doesn't need to be the same aliens attacking everywhere. They are obviously intelligent enough to realize it's more efficient to use foot soldiers. They are fighting in an urban environment again the US army. Not just a few squads of soldiers. The army. Flying squids were weak to high fire-rate weapons. Why would they fly around tons of humvees, atts, helicopters, and tanks? They all have .50 cal machine guns and gatling guns. They wouldn't. Especially when it's their weakness. They wouldn't. Exactly. They are fighting against the US army on the army's own terms. Pretty sure sending in infantry to deal with infantry, tanks, humvees, helicopters etc isn't the most efficient way to clear them out. I mean... What? If that were the case, the game would revolve around you killing all of the aliens one by one until you get to their leader. Not the spore. The spore was the most efficient way of clearing out the area. If they were intelligent they'd release the spore to declare war, not three years into it.

"Walking around in an awkward, slow exoskeleton with explosed jelly is so efficient, man! So efficient!! I'd know. I've played Call of Duty."

BTW, how is flying their weakness? Air drops are their sole way of responding to you throughout the game and it takes two or more helicopters + a lot of firepower to bring down the ship in the first act. Pretty sure they have air superiority. If you want to try to bring down a gunship of theirs with your rifle, go ahead. I'm sure it'd be incredibly effective. I'm also pretty sure tanks, humvees, helicopters etc are going to be more exposed to air forces than they are to infantry.

They had an endless supply of AMMO. Not energy. The MOAC transforms the air into a weapon. It isn't just a simple anolog rifle using gunpowder. How did you not realize that? Why did you even have to ask? "Herrderr I had an unlimited ammo gun!" Really?What are you talking about? Unlimited energy. The gun recharges on it's own. Forever as far as we know. That is unlimited energy. Jesus lol.

It makes total sense in relation to the question. He was explaining how the KPA got suits. The first question was how did they attain suits. No. You can't read. The original question was 'how were the nanosuits tests if the Koreans had them'. The idea to throw in Hargreave seems to him an afterthought.

I think he was always going to be involved from the start as the suits act weirdly whenever there is an alien presence nearby in most Crysis 1 cutscenes.

Hey you just explained logical reasoning as to why it's not a plot hole. If you're trying to sarcastically mock crystal clear logic, you're an idiot. Basically everything you've said so far has been idiotic, so I'll just assume the opposite to whatever you say is going to be correct... I am not even talking about plot holes. I'm talking about my thoughts on that guy's ideas. There are reading comprehension classes you can take. Just saying...

So you're just stating that it's not possible they're dead. Then rambling in defense saying it's an unknown unknown. Then you say the last time we saw them was on the ship that was destroyed. Even though, the rest of the world. Saw the clip where Prophet is revealing everything as well as Hargreave. They were.. Post-human warriors. So in all likelyhood, they are dead. It is possible that they're alive. The big question is.. Why does this matter? Answer: It doesn't. Crysis 2 is an end and a beginning to Prophet's story.
No, I'm saying it isn't necessarily right to say "they're died" when you don't know. You really shouldn't go for the internet badassery thing when you can't even read one post honestly without coming to your own conclusion on what the original post was saying, rather than what it was actually saying.

The last time we saw them was when they were heading back to the island to find Prophet. Prophet made it off the island, so we can assume there is a chance that Psycho and Nomad made it off the island too.

Post-human warrior =/= dead. It means a super soldier, which is also the name of the post-human difficulty on consoles. That is the relation, not 'post-death'. You think Hargreave was after dead people to win the war?

Worth it...