Major plot hole -_____-

Post » Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:45 am

i know some people mentioned this....

lets omit the fact crysis 2 has red aliens (Warhead had Red Hunter at the end - colour change is possible?)

How come: Aliens don't fly anymore...

How come: They sent a signal to M33 and it hasnt been mentioned in C2?

How come: Nanosuit 2 looks compleatly different from nanosuit 1

How come: character has been made to look more mascular for the "bad ass" effect even though the in the first the spec ops had smaller guns but still managed quite fine - hence nanosuit super strength?

How come: Aliens walk now?

How come: No cold weapons?

How come: Massive drills from underground for no real reason and alien spores killing humans?

How come: nanosuits were "tests" if KPA got them? Obv in C1 they didnt plan on making them host dependant as C2 made it out to be

How come: very little spoken of lingshan? even though loads happened?

How come: No Psycho/Nomad? they didnt die did they?

if someone has answers - please tell me...
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:27 pm

How come: Nanosuit 2 looks compleatly different from nanosuit 1

I can answer that. It looks different because it's Nanosuit 2 and not Nanosuit 1.
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Post » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:21 am

How come: Nanosuit 2 looks compleatly different from nanosuit 1

I can answer that. It looks different because it's Nanosuit 2 and not Nanosuit 1.


oh is it? really? so how come prophet got it off (to "upgrade" it) even though it is symbiotic? huh?
new suit looks much more simplified than old one -__-
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There is some sort of comic that explains it all.

Do your research kk ty
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Post » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:18 am

How come: Nanosuit 2 looks compleatly different from nanosuit 1

I can answer that. It looks different because it's Nanosuit 2 and not Nanosuit 1.


oh is it? really? so how come prophet got it off (to "upgrade" it) even though it is symbiotic? huh?
new suit looks much more simplified than old one -__-

Thats because the game is much more simplified.
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:28 pm

How come: Nanosuit 2 looks compleatly different from nanosuit 1

I can answer that. It looks different because it's Nanosuit 2 and not Nanosuit 1.


oh is it? really? so how come prophet got it off (to "upgrade" it) even though it is symbiotic? huh?
new suit looks much more simplified than old one -__-

It's just not visible to the untrained eye, clearly.
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:25 pm

There is some sort of comic that explains it all.

Do your research kk ty

he shouldnt have to. If you have to look at a book/comic that explains it, that by definition means the game has plotholes.
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:53 pm

There is some sort of comic that explains it all.

Do your research kk ty

he shouldnt have to. If you have to look at a book/comic that explains it, that by definition means the game has plotholes.


thanks King - yes i shouldnt have to find a comic about Crysis - WTF?
I just finnished playing Crysis 1 to see if there are any inconsistant plotholes - for example:
How come Prophet never mentiones Nomad - who saved his life - or Psycho?

How come even though Helena invented the "cure" against the aliens in C1 you spend 80% of C2 trying to get a new one - WTF?

How come aliens aren't using giant warships anymore or huge walkers to spread death and destruction?

Is this because consoles couldnt handle the polygons? Or because C2 was suppose to be ADHD shooter for consoles? Im confused...

try to restrain yourself from trolling and try to help me figure those things out!
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Post » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:14 am

also: aliens fed of power in Crysis 1... How come they don't do it anymore in Crysis 2?
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Post » Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:13 am

Crysis 1 was made for PC only (afaik), and seeing part 2 is multiplatform they needed to make a new story line so the other platforms aren't dropped in the middle of a story and be like wtf did I miss?

Doesn't explain why they downgraded everything but it does explain the change of the storyline.
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:54 pm

I can help you, too tired, tommorrow.
*yawn*
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Crysis 1 was made for PC only (afaik), and seeing part 2 is multiplatform they needed to make a new story line so the other platforms aren't dropped in the middle of a story and be like wtf did I miss?

Doesn't explain why they downgraded everything but it does explain the change of the storyline.


thats failLOGIC...

so basically: no explenation for Aliens turning from flying beasts - THAT SELF DESTRUCT AT DEATH!!!!! (which means how the hell did Hargreave get Ceph technology if they self destruct?!!!) and in C2 they leave magic Catalysts (BS)...

just because its multi platform dosent mean PC should get the "you havent played C1 and you dont care about story" treatment...

Crysis 3?
How to redeem Crysis series:
Start off by telling Crysis 2 was Prophet's dream... it didnt happen...
Then resume in the VTOL with Nomad going to help Prophet assault in the Alien Sphere - You and Prophet killing the aliens once and for all in the center of the ship - proabably facing gigantic boss at the end...

NOW THAT'S WHAT I WANTED C2 TO BE ABOUT!
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:34 pm

I can help you, too tired, tommorrow.
*yawn*
obvious troll is obvious? no?
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Post » Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:02 am

Crysis 1 was made for PC only (afaik), and seeing part 2 is multiplatform they needed to make a new story line so the other platforms aren't dropped in the middle of a story and be like wtf did I miss?

Doesn't explain why they downgraded everything but it does explain the change of the storyline.


thats failLOGIC...

so basically: no explenation for Aliens turning from flying beasts - THAT SELF DESTRUCT AT DEATH!!!!! (which means how the hell did Hargreave get Ceph technology if they self destruct?!!!) and in C2 they leave magic Catalysts (BS)...

just because its multi platform dosent mean PC should get the "you havent played C1 and you dont care about story" treatment...

NOW THAT'S WHAT I WANTED C2 TO BE ABOUT!

It makes perfect sense considering the fact that Crysis 2 is a console port.

We all know Crysis 2 isn't the game we wanted to be but atleast they are trying to make up for it.

It won't give you your precious SP but it might/probably will give us a decent MP, with time...
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:26 pm

Crysis 1 was made for PC only (afaik), and seeing part 2 is multiplatform they needed to make a new story line so the other platforms aren't dropped in the middle of a story and be like wtf did I miss?

Doesn't explain why they downgraded everything but it does explain the change of the storyline.


thats failLOGIC...

so basically: no explenation for Aliens turning from flying beasts - THAT SELF DESTRUCT AT DEATH!!!!! (which means how the hell did Hargreave get Ceph technology if they self destruct?!!!) and in C2 they leave magic Catalysts (BS)...

just because its multi platform dosent mean PC should get the "you havent played C1 and you dont care about story" treatment...

NOW THAT'S WHAT I WANTED C2 TO BE ABOUT!

It makes perfect sense considering the fact that Crysis 2 is a console port.

We all know Crysis 2 isn't the game we wanted to be but atleast they are trying to make up for it.

It won't give you your precious SP but it might/probably will give us a decent MP, with time...

not sure why you mis-quoted me... but anyhow...
the MP is broken its ****.... hackers ruined the boards - XP is clientside - WTF?
still no anti-cheat - the l33t anti cheat protection which detecs headhsots/min dosent work against aimbotters...

before you say: im lvl 40 1st Reboot...

I have over 100 hours in Crysis ATM
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:50 pm

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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:18 pm

How come: Aliens don't fly anymore...

How come: They sent a signal to M33 and it hasnt been mentioned in C2?

How come: Nanosuit 2 looks compleatly different from nanosuit 1

How come: character has been made to look more mascular for the "bad ass" effect even though the in the first the spec ops had smaller guns but still managed quite fine - hence nanosuit super strength?

How come: Aliens walk now?

How come: No cold weapons?

How come: Massive drills from underground for no real reason and alien spores killing humans?

How come: nanosuits were "tests" if KPA got them? Obv in C1 they didnt plan on making them host dependant as C2 made it out to be

How come: very little spoken of lingshan? even though loads happened?

How come: No Psycho/Nomad? they didnt die did they?

if someone has answers - please tell me...[/quote]

and your point sir?
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:54 pm

To be honest its not really worth trying to make sense of the plot holes and masses of unexplained things, the story has turned to trash. Crysis 1 was completely ignored when it came to the storyboard for Crysis 2. Sure there are fan theories floating around but none of them really wrap up all the loose ends.

The change of tactics can be explained by the change in environment. What cant be explained though is the massive change in technology and weaponry from the Ceph. From ice projectiles, freezing rays and gravity bombs to lasers and bio weapons.. why?

Even the comic book contradicts some of the things in game in Crysis 2.
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Post » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:22 am

There is some sort of comic that explains it all.

Do your research kk ty

he shouldnt have to. If you have to look at a book/comic that explains it, that by definition means the game has plotholes.

No it doesn't. In fact, it isn't the game that has plot holes. It would be the story. Since a game doesn't doesn't have "plot" holes. The story inside the game would. It isn't the other way around. I know that makes your argument convenient but it isn't the case. I don't know what comic he's referring to. But if it had information pertaining to the story, then it would be considered prologue or epilogue. Both of which are known literary methods in a story.

Different areas means a possibility of different aliens. Just because you saw one form of aliens doesn't mean you know every single Ceph and what they look like. Making that assumption is wrong and would only lead to the confusion you're having now. They are invading New York. So, I would imagine that the aliens that are on the ground are the invasion force. Since ground troops are usually the invasion force.

Not all stories have every single thing written in black and white. You're supposed to use your brain to infer things and imagine things. That's the point of a lot of stories. Especially science-fiction.

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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:44 pm


It makes perfect sense considering the fact that Crysis 2 is a console port.

We all know Crysis 2 isn't the game we wanted to be but atleast they are trying to make up for it.

It won't give you your precious SP but it might/probably will give us a decent MP, with time...

not sure why you mis-quoted me... but anyhow...
the MP is broken its ****.... hackers ruined the boards - XP is clientside - WTF?
still no anti-cheat - the l33t anti cheat protection which detecs headhsots/min dosent work against aimbotters...

before you say: im lvl 40 1st Reboot...

I have over 100 hours in Crysis ATM[/quote]


Let's try again, see if you can read the entire story this time without nerd-raging replies.

And FYI I'm only rank 42 non prestiged. :< guess I should have spend over 100 hours as well instead of around 30. :<
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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:06 pm

I have some answers.

At some point, millions of years ago, there were groups of Ceph all over the Earth. Then they went into hibernation for some reason. Well, maybe they didn't all go into hibernation at the same time. Some of them could have kept their little societies running for centuries, developing their culture and technology as they saw fit.

Eventually they did all go into hibernation. I think they started terraforming the planet, and went into hibernation to wait for a colonization fleet that has been travelling towards Earth for millions of years. When they sent that signal to galaxy M33, they were really broadcasting to the fleet coming from that galaxy to Earth.
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It makes perfect sense considering the fact that Crysis 2 is a console port.

We all know Crysis 2 isn't the game we wanted to be but atleast they are trying to make up for it.

It won't give you your precious SP but it might/probably will give us a decent MP, with time...

not sure why you mis-quoted me... but anyhow...
the MP is broken its ****.... hackers ruined the boards - XP is clientside - WTF?
still no anti-cheat - the l33t anti cheat protection which detecs headhsots/min dosent work against aimbotters...

before you say: im lvl 40 1st Reboot...

I have over 100 hours in Crysis ATM


Let's try again, see if you can read the entire story this time without nerd-raging replies.

And FYI I'm only rank 42 non prestiged. :< guess I should have spend over 100 hours as well instead of around 30. :<[/quote]

i guess i spent too much time w/e...

anyhow... sorry for nerd rage if i did indeed rage...

i agree - console port with time... but there are some wounds that won't heal... you know crytek will dig a deeper hole by trying to explain why there is a hole in the story there in a first place....

in Crysis 3 you will probably play as Helena is a pink nanosuit with lazer eyes... thats nanosuit 3 for you...
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Post » Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:41 am

Crysis 1 was made for PC only (afaik), and seeing part 2 is multiplatform they needed to make a new story line so the other platforms aren't dropped in the middle of a story and be like wtf did I miss?

Doesn't explain why they downgraded everything but it does explain the change of the storyline.Yeah well they **** ruined everything in the process. Crysis 2's story is not interesting AT ALL. I was yawning and falling asleep and just wanted to finish it and by the end of the game I just didn't care anymore. They took that **** Nanosuit 2 too far! It shouldn't be a weapon that can erase EVERY SINGLE alien around it just by taking a ride through a spear.

Edit: All in all, **** Crytek. Will not be buying Crysis 3.

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Post » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:22 pm

How come: Aliens don't fly anymore...

Maybe because their flying exoskeletons used to much energy or didn't worked well out of the extreme coldness of the sphere after prolonged times

How come: They sent a signal to M33 and it hasnt been mentioned in C2?

Crysis 2 was aimed to be played at anyone, not just people that have played crysis 1, so if they go around mentioning M33, people would get confused about that.

How come: Nanosuit 2 looks compleatly different from nanosuit 1

Because it's an upgrade from nanosuit, maybe after prophet completed the lingshan operation, he went back to crynet and hargreave took his old nanosuit 1 and gave him the new Nanosuit 2

How come: character has been made to look more mascular for the "bad ass" effect even though the in the first the spec ops had smaller guns but still managed quite fine - hence nanosuit super strength?

the nanosuit looks more buffed because the improved armor and cry-fiber it uses, which also allows a better cloak and more energy storage

How come: Aliens walk now?

Flying and mass production of the floating exoskeletons could be expensive to make, also the game takes place 3 years after, so in the mean time they redesigned their weapons and armors to adapt to field combat, and are possibly less expensive to make than the previous flying ones hence they can produce more

How come: No cold weapons?

Cold weapons would work well under cold eviroments like those inside the sphere, but out in new york city where ice melts at normal temperature, they would need to use heat based weapons

How come: Massive drills from underground for no real reason and alien spores killing humans?

like they said in crysis 2, the aliens had all those machines and bases underground for years, one of them was in new york, below central park to be precise, the spores are released into the air, and they eat the human flesh, they multiply like a virus eating the humans until they die

How come: nanosuits were "tests" if KPA got them? Obv in C1 they didnt plan on making them host dependant as C2 made it out to be

I don't believe that the Nanosuit 1 on crysis 1 was the first mission with the nanosuits, the koreans stole a nanosuit and reverse engineered it and made out "cheap knock-offs" that had less armor, energy, strengh and were missing some features form the Nanosuit 1

the nanosuit 2 is more connected to the user to improve survivability , as you can see in crysis 1, Aztec and Jester died very easily, but on crysis 2, even though alcatraz had broken ribs, pierced lungs, etc, he survived thanks to the nanosuit 2 which connects deeply to the host's body so keep him alive
How come: very little spoken of lingshan? even though loads happened?

again, to not confuse people that haven't played crysis 1, and possibly because lingshan was a covered operation just the army and the soldiers know about, so i don't think everyone would go around talking about the lingshan events

How come: No Psycho/Nomad? they didnt die did they?

as mentioned by some soldiers in-game and what prophet said about the suit symbiosis and the alien virus, they would have probably died at the linghhan islands by the alien virus



Sorry i messed up and pressed Submit instead of preview, i made this new post with the answers
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Post » Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:17 am

i know some people mentioned this....

lets omit the fact crysis 2 has red aliens (Warhead had Red Hunter at the end - colour change is possible?)

How come: Aliens don't fly anymore...

How come: They sent a signal to M33 and it hasnt been mentioned in C2?

How come: Nanosuit 2 looks compleatly different from nanosuit 1

How come: character has been made to look more mascular for the "bad ass" effect even though the in the first the spec ops had smaller guns but still managed quite fine - hence nanosuit super strength?

How come: Aliens walk now?

How come: No cold weapons?

How come: Massive drills from underground for no real reason and alien spores killing humans?

How come: nanosuits were "tests" if KPA got them? Obv in C1 they didnt plan on making them host dependant as C2 made it out to be

How come: very little spoken of lingshan? even though loads happened?

How come: No Psycho/Nomad? they didnt die did they?

if someone has answers - please tell me...

I have the answers:)

1-Flying=Resource effective. They still fly, but in rather more ship like structures as opposed to squid. Remember, the squid structures in the last game were actually aliens in machines and the machines were VERYYYYY energy hungry.

2-They sent signals out. It was just a mere claim and rather more of a theory Helena had that she thought was happening. For all we know, it could be false, and as it is, the enemy is Ceph on earth. Aliens in space to come....yeah it'll take a long time. Even if the signals were sent for help, those aliens in space won't come immediately, they are not the problem at matter. AND remember, Lingshan was a bit of a hush-hush operation.

3-It's the nanosuit 2....-_-" Emphasize on the "2"

4-Newer, bigger weapons are necessary for the war against Ceph. The masculine size is probably because Alcatraz is just buff. Orrrrr, it could actually be that speed and strength are combined and streamlined into a power mode. The streamline allows for constant maximum speed and strength, thus, suit is buff.

5-Evolution. Flying, again, was resource effective. And actually, when the armada of aliens in the first game was unleashed, if you read multiplayer descriptions of map names in the crysis multiplayer, it tells you what happens to those aliens. That alien armada traveled the world and was defeated by MERE humans. In addition, in Crysis 2, we fight the aliens THEMSELVES, not in a machine. In the first game, we were basically fighting aliens in war machines. In Crysis 2, they come out in more mass numbers ON THEIR FEET. It's like instead of sending ships, the Ceph sent out foot soldiers.

6-Evolution; Also, ice weapons requried huge amounts of energy and energy is very limited (due to many humans using energy) to appeal to the aliens if they want to do a mass invasion. Plus, when they evolved they evolved to warm standards

7-The drills, or spikes that I assume you are talking about, are what releases the spores. The spores are part of the invasion, to wipe out the population. They are infective against humans and kills them. Aliens take samples from dead bodies it seems and that's how they manage to make sure the spore works and will continue to work against humans. Simple.

8-KPA had cheap knockoffs. And Crysis 1 had nanosuits with the purpose of being host dependant the whole time. Did you NOT forget the big Hargreave conspiracy? How he tricked Special Operations into using the nanosuit program just to see how symbiosis works and the effects when encountering aliens? I shouldn't even need to answer this question, did you PLAY Crysis 2 and pay attention?

9-Loads happened? They discovered aliens. End of story. Anything about Lingshan that needed to be known was in Prophet's mind about the aliens which he told Gould and Alcatraz anyways. Lingshan was mentioned several times in Crysis 2 BUT again, it's a hush-hush incident. PLUS, it's not like let's say, Strickland or Lockheart is gonna obsess about the incident. What happened has happened, they know how to do and have to deal with the aliens CURRENTLY at hand. They can talk about the past later.

10-Psycho and Nomad both died. Prophet was the ONLY one to stay alive. Why do you think he was mad at Hargreave? That's one of the main reasons he hated the nanosuit program trick Hargreave pulled on him; his whole squad died.

no plotholes really.....play Crysis 2 again, play with subtitles, and pay attention.
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