make Asian race in Elder Scrolls?

Post » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:27 pm

Since everyone is either white (Nord, Breton, Imperial), black (Redguard), or cat or lizard. Should have a new Asian race please?

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Shelby Huffman
 
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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:46 am


There is the Tsaechi on Akavir who are most likely Japanese (Korean etc) looking so the lore is already set in place for such a race. I agree that the E.Asian are under represented considering their numbers worldwide contribute significantly.

Dunmer show a lot of Turkic, Mongolian & Chinese influences (central Asia) but that is hardly the same.
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Mélida Brunet
 
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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:26 pm

I thought the Tsaesci were snake people though, not humans per se?

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Samantha Wood
 
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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:05 am

Only if it's something else than the completely overdone Japan.

Is it too much to ask for a facion/race based on India, Burmese, Tibet, anything else but just ninjas and dragon emperors?

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Niisha
 
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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:34 am

The Akaviri were a race of men and now they are extinct.

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MARLON JOHNSON
 
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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:15 am

It kind of wouldn't make much sense, given the geography of Tamriel... although I guess Redguards happened, so why not?

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sally R
 
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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:44 pm

Read one comment above you.

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amhain
 
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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:20 pm

Well, Redguards can either be black or Arabic looking. Their culture is also very Arabic and Arabs are from Asia. That's why I chose Redguards, they're Arab and so am I. :)
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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:22 am


I too would like an Indian race, but then again their culture would be very similar to Redguard culture, which is Mongol/Arab. India was held by the Mongols for hundreds of years and so therefore, their culture would only have very very subtle differences. I think that Ninjas and Dragon emperors would be great! :D
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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:42 am

I thought the Khajit to be kinda Asian.

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naana
 
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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:08 am


They're more Mexican.
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Len swann
 
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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:14 am

LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DYje57V_BY :rofl:

And i have a feeling that the dunmer or Redguards are the most Asian we're gonna get for now... :/

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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:11 am

Well the Elder scrolls have only explored one continent of the world the story take place in and the continent is loosely based on Europe. And the Redguard is not really black but brown and is loosely based on South Spain or Morocco as far as I can tell from the Redguard game.

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Post » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:40 pm

I think you can also make imperials look more middle eastern :)

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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:24 am


Lol perfect time for Homer.

I agree, can't see Beth making any new races.
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Post » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:09 pm


Ah yes, I have made many middle eastern Imperials :). But their culture isn't middle eastern.... :(
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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:23 am

As an Anthropologist, there's so much wrong with this thread I can't even begin without having a meltdown, but I'll try.

First of all, the human definition of "Race" is arbitrary. The actual implication of a true "Race" is a different species. In human terms, the different "Races" of people are more like breeds of dogs. They can all breed viable offspring and thus are not different in the way the term "Race" originally implies. (By the bigots who coined it)

Immediately singling out the Redguards is somewhat racist, as the melanin content of one's skin is not indicative of their race, simply the amount of sun exposure one has, and a genetic predisposition to the protection against UV light. The Redguards themselves are not intended to be what some would call "African-American" as a race, they are an entirely unique cultural entity that just happens to be dark skinned. They draw much influence from Caribbean colonial culture in the case of the Forebears, and the crowns resemble some of the Dark ages Near and Middle Eastern cultures, including the sultanates of Iran and Turkey. ( Dark Ages is kind of a misnomer for the Arab world at that time, as they pioneered many intellectual revolutions then and the names of most of the visible stars and constellations are testament to that)

I haven't even touched on how TES is not Earth and so there does not have to be any direct translation of anything. You can see a lot of cultural influences of our own world in many different facets of each race. With the exception of the Redguards, the races of Men are perhaps a bit too transparent to support my argument fully. Nords are clearly based on the culture of those most fearsome of Pirates, the Vikings, while Breton society is nearly a perfect match of the Feudalistic society of Dark-ages Europe. It gets a lot more complicated (And in my opinion, interesting) when you get into the Mer, who seem to draw upon more varied inspriations. The Dunmer for example, include influences of Nomadic Khanates, the Egyptians (Especially Hlaalu) and their own special brand of necromantic weirdness.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, put less emphasis on race. It's one of the least important things in the world.

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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:26 am

Why not? I mean so far we have only been introduced to one continent for actual gameplay. Then there is only two or three more, pending how you look at it, that is mentioned ( so far ) in lore.

Nirn is a big world. We are only familiar with a small part of it. They have all kinds of possibilities to entertain.

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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:10 am


Nobody actually knows as it just sybolic folklore and nonody know what the symbolism refers to or if it is even true.

The folklore speaks of vampiric snake "eating" the human but i think it also says the snakemen "becoming" them.

What we actually know through Tamriel recorded history as fact is there were (are?) humans on Akavir that make weapons, armor and building resembling that of real life ancient Japan
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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:38 am

Wrong. It's historical fact that the Tsaesci are in fact, Snake people. Not unlike the Lamia in typical fantasy Lore. We know this because the Imperial Potentate and his son, as a matter of historical fact, were Akaviri (Tsaesci).

Search for Potentate Versidue-Shaei and Savirien-Chorak

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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:33 am


No. How can you say it is "fact"?.

We've seen ghosts of Tsaechi and they were human. We see armor of Tsaechi and it fits a human. We see in the Blades temple a carved picture showing Taaechi as MEN....

All we got to speak of "snake people" is a book of folklore.

Your wrong to make a broad statement saying it is "historical fact"
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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:50 am

As late as the Middle third Era (Report: Disaster at Ionith) we can still confirm the Tsaesci exist as they are described. That is to say, snake-people. They also make their own weapons, the iconic Tantos Wakazashis, Odachis and Tachis. Nobody knows if it was the believed-extinct races of Men on Akavir who first made them, or the Tsaesci themselves, what is known is that both can.

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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:36 am


I meant I can't see Beth making any new races in the foreseeable future. I doubt we'll see any new continents until Tamriel is all done.
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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:54 am

All current humans in Tamriel descened from Nords, right? Even the black Redguards?

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Post » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:28 am

Not the Redguards, they come from Yokuda.

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