haha ture.. we have all seen Jurassic park haha

look don't get me wrong guys.. i love the originals as well...i have copies on my mac and pc copies...i like it for the story, the grittyness that styles is talking about..cause u can do some seriously messed up (seen as the word i wanna use will get censored) stuff. and i doubt if i a remake were to happen, which i've already said won't unless there is some driving force eg movie, that the content will survive but i'd still love to play them as i play FO3 and NV..but it's not going to happen. even if someone mod'd it..it'd be massive...so if u wanna see boneyard and reno etc..play the originals or hope to hell we return to them in the many future fallout games

I'd go for a remake if it wasn't first person. Something like Jagged alliance 2 to Jagged alliance 1 style update.

Remaking Fallout and Fallout 2 is an extremely stupid move, they're amazing the way they are. I don't want Beth messing them up and making them a piece of 3D crap.

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Im against a remake, but not for the reasons necessarily that it would be a heretical and blasphemous move against the originals or anything like that.

I'm more against it because doing so would be pretty much pointless, and would cause a back-track in the storyline rather than moving forward and continuing with it (like for instance, by revisiting the Midwest and seeing how the MWBOS are getting along). We have the orginals, they're great, play em' if you want (or don't if you are put off by the graphics and/or gameplay), but lets not waste resources on something that doesn't really need to be done. Now if the originals were all like The Burned Game and in serious need of a revamp, then yes, I would say go for it, as it stands though, that isn't the case. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

u have summed that up well i'd play a remake..but in the end i'd much rather FO4 because i know what happens in the 1st two..i've played them already haha

I know the Final Fantasy series, at the very least, has remade Final Fantasy IV and Final Fantasy VII.
Plus, Red Dead Redemption isn't a remake of Red Dead Revolver, but it isn't that far off. Very similar ideas, possibly the same themes-I never played the earlier game, just read a little on it. Same setting. I'm pretty sure it was even made because of the previous one's popularity. Which is why there are usually remakes of video games at all.

Unless you were joking about that latter bit...

I don't actually like Final Fantasy, personally, but I wanted to point out that there are, indeed, "games...remaked from the earlier years."

i rather want entirely new content such as fallout 4 for example.

All of this.

As much as I love those two games, I believe they should leave them be. I think if someone wants to experience Fallout 1 and 2, they should play them as they were meant to be played. Trying to remake them wouldn't turn out well.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4uV3icrmw0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En21ZFUjSHQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_jbwdeVRjI&feature=related

Hmmm the Emperor Builds a New School...
Gaming empires should stick with building new schools and not re-building old schools.


(ughhhh those slides made me sick I was REALLY drunk and passed out flipping through the channels one night with the T.V. left on. I woke up the next morning with the worse hang over I've ever had and that show was on, not fun to watch with a hangover. That's my story as how I came about knowing what that show is)

They made a show?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_School

Isn't that what those youtube clips you posted are from?

Ugh.

No, they are from the movie that the show, apparently, is a spin-off of. The Emperors New Groove.

Eh, is damn good IMO, when I cannot sleep I watch it,

That or I still in the Notebook

Oh... well I'm not really up to date on my Disney cartoon movies, I think last Disney cartoon movie I fully watched was Alidin or something. And that was when I was in grade school which was roughly ~13-15 years ago.

Like I said I only heard of the Emperors Builds a New School because I woke up to with it on the T.V. and I had a huge hangover. I was watching T.V. the previous night and passed out channel surfing while the room was spinning. I wouldn't follow me as a role model, getting drunk and watching Disney cartoons with a hangover is not a cool thing to do. If you're young wait till the legal drinking age or don't drink it all. :grad:

You have to ask "why remake them", they didn't have anything so really special, good at the time but shrug.

You could ask "what was lacking in them" and put that into a remake = no loss, but then ask "why bother" for they had nothing all that special.

If you want a board-game with the step-by-step thought process and with limited action/movement puzzle kind of role (that's what board-games are), then the early Fallouts are for you ... and a remake could be done to fill in the rest that was missing, like the emptiness and lack of game-play content.

But that wouldn't be like the OP asked ... remaking them as being like FO3 and NV, for those are role-playing where "thought process and action/movement" are done on-the-fly as in real-life ... and that is role-playing PnP more true to the game character role, and generally bracketed as being RPG, ... When not in combat that is exactly how the first two Fallouts played. Early Fallouts were a mix of board-game play and the commonly known RPG.

In conflict, you suddenly become afflicted by lack of full movement/actions, as did everybody else, it became board-game play.

It depends if you want to play as a more true to the role of a real person game character or as a board-game character with those "step-by-step thought process and limited action/movements".

The early Fallouts were pretty easy really once the movements were figured ... If made like FO3 or NV they would give an idea of how much better they could have been.

The idea of the early Fallouts was good, explore the ethics (and morals) if you were in that scenario, but the exploration of those ethics and morals was hindered and mostly lost by the lack of the more full character role-play that Fallouts 3 and NV have.

Remakes could be done but we wouldn't end up with anything as good as we already have, and remakes with the board-game combat like it was in the early Fallouts is not really a good idea.

Take into consideration a player who is very good at numeric calculations and of easily calculating the movements to success ... the game-play for that player will be far less exciting in turn-base than real-time, and they may also ask "why remake".