Played Fallout 3 for 150 hours

Compared to Fallout 1 and 2 however, Fallout 3 is a kiddie game. Fallout 1 and 2 were hardcoe and gritty. In fact, there are many things I can't even mention on these forums that were in Fallout 1.

If it's just a HD remake(wouldn't even mind a straight port) and put on psn then that would be awesome .

I wouldn't mind re-visiting the places in Fallout 1 and 2, but in a completely new story. I don't like most remakes in movies or in video games.

I played it for 1500+ hours.
Fallout 3 is plenty gritty and hardcoe.

Gritty, and ridiculous, vampires wannabes, superhero and supervillain wannabes, A GIANT ROBOT

It lack of some things that the other fallout have, some of them, fordibben to say in the forums,

hardcoe? yeah, killing a Behemoth with a Hunting Rifle is "hardcoe"

No, it is impossible to remade Fallout like 3 and NV, I will hate Bethesda if they even try to do that, you really cannot compare a racing game with a RPG game when it comes to "remakes"

In the Originals you can get a reputation known, as Childkiller think about how you would get that. Fallout 2 also has a pormo making place. Jet addicts, back when Jet had a downside. There are brothels and the game is full of dirty advlt jokes. Shotgun weddings, knocking up a mother and her daughter, Jimmy Hats! The originals were rated M for a reason. Fallout 3 is rated M for some reason, I guess because once in a blue moon a character will say a swear :rolleyes: Like I already pointed out the "drugs" in Fallout 3 have no downside. They do in New Vegas with hardcoe mode.

Fallout 3 has two things going for it. Blood and Gore and really the Originals do better. Way better sound effects. Can blast a persons chest and arm off and "Bloody Mess" was worth having Can set people on fire and watch them run around before they fall to the ground as a burned to a crisp body.

If you have not played the Originals, do so before you say there should be a re-make. That is if you are mature enough to play the Originals :fallout:

I remember all I could think about in Little Lamplight was "this is a really gritty game."

:rofl:

Also that giant robot is just icing on the cake that is Fallout 3.

Hang on, Fallout 2 is "gritty"? With its stupid pop-culture references and goofy fourth-wall breaking dialogue, its ghosts and chess-playing scorpions and talking deathclaws and cartoon gangsters? Pull the other one. None of the Fallout games are "gritty", whatever that's supposed to entail. They're not exactly Threads or The Road...

Anyway, I'm not hostile towards the idea of remaking the originals, but let's face it it ain't gonna happen.

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Or, just to hazard a guess here, maybe it's all the violence, gore and exploding heads?

Honestly though, the idea of a "mature" computer game is pretty much an oxymoron. It's an inherently immature medium, and all the better for it.

Fallout 2 next to Fallout 3 is far more "mature." Sure there are the pop-culture references and such but I don't find them stupid. Fallout aka Fallout One alone is more mature then Fallout 3. Out of the five Fallout games the least mature is Fallout 3. The game should have been rated T-Teen.

Bethesda can't or will not do a word for word remake. Such as they will not allow the harming of children. Fallout 2 may have had some stupid jokes but Fallout 3 was trying to be a comic book that http://www.break.com/usercontent/2009/7/michael-bay-explosions-821047 would turn into a movie.



That is all Fallout 3 had going for it. Violence and gore. The Originals have that plus, six, drugs, swearing and harming of kids.

Sure (well 3 had swearing and drugs too but whatever), but none of that's got anything to do with maturity outside the world of ESRB ratings/a teenage boy's mind's eye anyway.

(I'm not arguing that Fallout 3 is mature/gritty/whatever, you understand, but rather that none of the games really are.)

Nope but it has a lot more advlt content mixed with the silliness. I mean a certain concept wasn't considered all that shocking to include at the time and yet it's taboo to even discuss on these forums.

Fallout 1 on the other hand definitely has a pretty gritty vibe to it. Overwhelmingly it's a dark and dirty world. The Khans have a couple of female slaves who are clearly being abused in many ways and who you can murder as part of an initiation rite, aside from all the murders Gizmo blackmails a prosttute into giving him sixual favors in exchange for protection, Decker has no issue murdering dozens of innocents if they get in his way, Set has his ghouls actually eat people just to build up a terrifying reputation, the Regulators brutally mutilate and execute a guy to implicate their enemies, and then when you consider what actually went down at Mariposa and Roger Maxson's response the whole setting is pretty dark.

Most of the silliness is confined to non-canonical random encounters.

No Fallout 3 had once in a blue moon somone saying a swear word. The Originals have characters that do nothing but swear alot. New Vegas alone has far more swearing then Fallout 3. Fallout 3 does not have drugs it has "Bonus Pills" as in take this and you get a boost with no downside :thumbsup: Being "addicted" in Fallout 3 is a joke. Taking drugs in the Originals can really mess you up. Fallout 3 has one guy that was a "drug addict" in Megaton :rolleyes: . Fallout 2 has whole towns of Jet heads that freak out and attack you. Fallout 2 has towns with drug deals of every corner. The game is full of prosttutes and alot of advlt language. Fallout 3 has Nova a women that you pay to sleep next to you. She does not even change out of her outift.

Fallout 3 has annoying locations full of immortal children. Originals, everyone is fair game. That alone is why the Originals should be left alone!

Then there is the fact that Fallout and Fallout 2 cover huge areas. Fallout 3 just covers one City. Taking all the locations of the Originals and cramming them into the size of Fallout 3 would svck. The game world is so big in Fallout 2 they had to add a car.

I'm sorry, but I don't think a video game needs all that garbage in it especially when it involves harming children. Those things don't make a game mature in fact it makes it very much the opposite. Moderators please lock this topic before it gets out of hand because it's going down the wrong road.

Reality: the opposite of mature.

No and we will not see it agian. I am not saying bring it back. I am saying leave it alone. No re-makes of the Originals. The Originals have it. If people removed everything they think is stupid or unnecessary from the Originals, then they would not be the originals.

You may not think it is needed. I think it is one of the things that made Fallout, Fallout. One of the reasons why Fallout has such a large following of original fans, because it was/is an RPG with little to no restrictions!

And the battling-giant-ants-and-Super-Mutant-with-laser-guns SCIENCE! setting.

To be clear, I'm not saying any of this is a bad thing at all. But I really don't see any of the games as being gritty or dark or mature or [insert adjective of choice here], sorry.

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I refer you back to

You can do all that but killing kids, and even then you kill 2 if you blow up megaton.

All this talk about you-know-what's gonna get this thread locked, you realise.

Well now you're just claiming unreality of setting is tantamount to silliness which is unfair. A big part of the retro elements in the original Fallout was the ironic contrast between that optimistic retro-futuristic past and the harsh reality of the post-apocalyptic world. Sorry but a stylized laser gun isn't unbound silliness it's just a graphical style. Also just for the record there were no giant ants in Fallout 1.



Well it's all comparative really. There are certainly many works in many different mediums that make Fallout 1 look lighthearted and silly I'm just saying in contrast to the games that follow Fallout 1 is definitely a pretty serious, gritty and dark setting overall.

good times, good times

OK, that much I can agree with. The first game did quietly terrify me when I played it in a way none of the others managed.

Anyway, what were we supposed to be talking about? Oh yeah, remakes...

I dont want remakes for Fallout, they re good as the ol good WIN 98 games back in 1997/1999,

As for the whole ESRB rating...

In my personal point of view, both F3, NV, Tactics and BO------ The Burned game looks like a T rated game, meanwhile 1 and 2 looks like more of a M rated game



The chems in both F3 and NV are a complete joke, they arent even dangerous for you, and you can easily get rid of them,

Well, I don't know now. I was.
I thought it would be a chance for players to experience the stories of the first two games, you know? No harm done, originals still there for fans to enjoy.

Apparently, though, things are more sinister. I've come to see that a shadowy cabal of mysterious operatives will invade the homes of everyone who owns an original and erase or remove the game from their possession. Then, all extant copies will be destroyed. Finally, the memories of all players will be 'sullied' in some unspecified fashion.

Good God, man -- I can't support that.

Well, the mature thing to do is not to harm any children, or at least I mostly play that way. It's called choice! Also this feature adds to the randomness & hilariousness of situations that might occur. For example: I throw a grenade in a battle, I miss because of my lousy aim and hit a child accidentally. I find it more mature, perhaps "rewarding" is the right word that the NPC in question gets hurts and I in return get punished by a reputation penalty. I mean, I don't get emotionally traumatized over it or anything. I'm mature enough to realize those are just sprites on a screen. Don't play the game then if you find it offensive, nothing happens. What is offensive for one person isn't offensive for someone else. I'm offended when I watch Idols on TV for God sake!


Back on topic: Remake? I don't care let them have their remake, if someone is not satisfied with the originals, fine. Your problem not mine. Dream about the watered-down FPS remake all you want because it will possibly never see the light of day and if it did it wouldn't be the same. Let me enjoy the originals in peace.


*Edit* I'll probably get warned again because I spoke about "the forbidden issue", which is quite ironic on a Fallout Series discussion platform anyway. :/