So in the Book of Daedra it says the other princes don't even recognize Malacath as a fellow god, my question is what does that make him?
My idea is that similar too the Tribunal he feeds off the power of his transformer Boethiah, but if thats true then I also think he should be stated as being weaker then Peryite on the scale of who's the bigger badass.

Discuss.

Well if you dilute a powerful solution that doesn't mean it is less powerful than an undiluted solution. Just means it is not as powerful as before. Now replace solution with god and you may have a solution of sorts.

Also he is a powerful Spirit that has become powerful enough to play with the big boys imo.

The Daedra do not recognise him as a Daedric Prince, because he was originally Trinimac, a champion of the High Elf Pantheon
See http://www.imperial-library.info/content/true-nature-orcs for details

He is considered a god but the thing is he was originally a Et'ada, he wasn't born of Padomay's blood thus most don't consider him a Daedra. But the same can be said of Meridia and various other of the Daedra who ascended to godhood.

Every Daedra and Aedra are a different mixture of Anu and Padomay.

Would you welcome somebody into your circle that's essentially nothing more then a pooped out remnant of a former god? I wouldn't really want to sit next to him either.

When I read the thread title, I imagined a screed written by a "troo orsimar" about how Malacath is so much better than the Daedric Princes and how him formerly being Trinimac, who was buds with Akatosh, makes him non-daedric.

It's an interesting problem.

The Aedra are relatively powerless because their self-ness is divided up amongst a multitude of mortals, so their powers are limited to a sort of unconscious consensus of their constituent parts. Presumably, Trinimac had been the same way, split up amongst his Not-Yet-Orc descendants, until Boethiah "ate" him, after which point he gained a "self" that the other Aedra lack. This means one of two things happened: scenario one, Boethiah took the souls of Not-Yet-Orcs (dead NYOs enroute to the dreamsleave for recycling perhaps) and tried to absorb them (ie "ate" them) but could not, and the NYO souls glommed together and became Malacath. The new being's sense of self meant it didn't have to go and get recycled, and kept a daedra-like ability to act as a single being, despite the fact that a goodly portion of himself remained in the now-orcs on Nirn. Scenario two, Boethiah somehow altered the nature of how orcs souls work entirely, giving them a weird sort of meta-conscious hivemind, and totally unique. Scenario one seems most likely, seeing as it's more consistent with what we know about TES metaphysics, but scenario two is fun if for no other reason than it gives TES orcs a version of WAAAAAGH.

Nope thats incorrect, the mortal races are the mixture. The daedra were born from Padomay's blood and the Aedra from Anu's

This cannot be correct, even though it is stated in in-game literature.
Everything is a product of the interplay between Anu and Padomay, the original spirits as much as anything else.

Something which is purely Anuic or Padomaic cannot exist, it either has no order to stabilise its flux, or it has no chaos to tease it out of the unchanging, immobile order. It would fall back into its parent pattern, Anu or Padomay.

If any being was purely anuic or purely padomaic, we would call them Anu or Padomay. I'm afraid your incorrect.

Uh, no, Trinnimac was never Et'ada...

Et'Ada is a catch-all term for the original spirits, and Trinimac qualifies.

As for the original topic: half the Daedra ent Daedra. Malacath is obvious, Meridia is a "wayward solar daughter," Sheogorath is the missing spark of Lorkhan, Mehrunes Dagon may be Magnus. Daedra (and Aedra) are very specific merish constructs, not absolute cosmic definitions. There are plenty of Et'Ada who fit neither category.

Hell, Molag Bal was originally a Costermonger from Gwylim.

Isn't Daedra just anything that didn't directly participate in creation? As a result, Trinimac/Malacath would technically be a Daedra. But throw in the fact that he was a champion of Aedra, and it gets iffy.

Even if Malacath is weaker than Peryite, he's still much scarier. He also has waaay more followers than almost any other Daedra, the possible exception being Azura (Dunmer)

Malacath has his own realm just like the other princes, but his is pretty boring. I wonder if he has any lesser Daedra serving him, or if he finds Orcs (and some beast folk) to be enough.

Lore wise, and in Morrowind at least, he had the Ogrim serving him, giant, hulking, fat brutes.

Edit: Here. UESP for extra credit. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ogrim#Ogrim

Yeah I remember that now. His realm is lots of ash but must have ground somewhere.

Daedra aren't Gods

And he isn't one of them. He's a corrupted Aedra.

Sheogorath says that his realm has a literal spine.

EDIT: Jyggalag insults you by calling you a false Daedric Prince. Malacath is scorned as a false Daedric Prince. Perhaps the Daedric Princes are racist against those who had unusual origins instead of emerging from Aurbis as a Daedric Prince, like Hermaues Mora or Meridia.

And Peryite. But I don't think they really hate on Herma, Merdia, Peryite or Sheo that much... and they should hate on Sheo. He screws them all constantly.

What are Mora's origins again? Isnt he like the unused ideas of something? Creation?

and I mean the old Sheo, not the new ex-mortal Sheo.

Says who?
If he was truly an Aedra, he'd be difficult to corrupt. He's Et'ada, champion of Auri-el, and he did not give himself to Mundus. People need to be aware that 'Daedra' is a catch-all.

Wait a sec, Mehrunes may be Magnus? This interests me and I request a link.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/seven-fights-aldudagga

No? Altmer never considered him an ancestor? I thought the orcs are the descendants of Trinimac's Aldmer descendants. Anyone with mortal descendants is Aedra.

Of course, the way TES metaphysics works, regarless of whether or not Trinimac had been Aedra, the fact that everyone thinks he's daedra means he is daedra, because perception is reality and reality is an illusion. It's entirely possible that he's both, simply because some people think he is and some people think he isn't.