I really don’t get the need for definitive proof in a game where lore purposefully has tons of holes so that it could be changed. The fact that there has been no recorded
examples of it for thousands of years somewhat puts it out of the question until new lore is introduced. Considering that some species of Khajiit are just like Bosmer when you shave them I’am sure that cross breading was tried by some sick Telvanni.

edit: Orcs can reproduce with human-ish individuals, the Pale Prince is an example. The mother was an Orc the father…wasn’t. It is however unclear if an Orc male can impregnate a non Orc.

Good point, however the Telvanni aren't really known for sharing their information anyway. It's likely that the Khajiit and other races can't breed, seems to make the most sense. But I'm not entirely sure on it either, at least the Ohmes and Bosmer would have a chance, but then getting those two together would be harder then lighting a fire on the ocean floor.

I'm pretty sure there is a bunch of hybrids throughout Nirn history, they are just not public knowledge.

Nah, I am sure a single Telvanni Master and one summoned Dremora can provide all the motivation they will ever need.

there is also Jesus, Marry and Joseph running around all over Nirn, they are just invisible and they achieved CHIM a long time ago. Just cause you can’t see them and just cause no books talk about them doesn’t mean they aren’t there right?

Excuse me?

I think a person (And I bet mosly the rich and nobility have that kind of perky interests) would be pretty thorough at concealing the fact that he or she had six with a cat, a lizard, an ugly green lady with dental problems or an elf.

MMMM, don't stop! :F <3

Barenziah wasn't.

She was blackmailed with that.

How can I can I argue against something that is not based on any shred of evidence without sounding nuts?
Instead I’ll make the same assumptions that you are making. I am completely positive that Jesus is on Nirn and he has achieved CHIM before Vivec. Can you prove me wrong?
Hmm…I still sound nuts but at least this way it is entertaining instead of frustrating.

Edit:
There are numerous examples of humans being with elves, a shaved sub race of a Khajiit is a frisky nimpho version of a bosmer…
Yet no recorded results

I just see them as beast races.

I'll skip the part where you are being a dike.

What about this? http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Origin_of_the_Gray_Prince

It proves a couple of points from the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Notes_on_Racial_Phylogeny book, specifically the race of the offspring being determined by mother.

That's an imperial mixing with an Orc... Only example we have ever seen of that. But obviously proves it possible.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/real-barenziahalso hints on it being possible for an elf to mate with a Khajiit. The sentence mentioning it however: "You ought to meet some nice Elven boys, though. If you go on keeping company with Khajiits and humans and what have you, you'll find yourself pregnant in next to no time." does leave the Khajiit part open to interpetation.

We should do this more often ;D <3

Heeyyy I brought up the grey prince on the first page lol.

My beef is with the fact that if it is not recorded or your PC has not witnessed anything to suggest it in previous titles then until more lore is introduced it does not exist. At least it doesn’t exist in a form that can be argued about and debated. Considering that this is somewhat of a debate…

hmmm I wonder how bethesda will handle valenwood's .... vertical enviroment since Bosmer and Kahjit are known to jump from branch to branch as a war tactic ...

Yeah, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US-Soviet_Space_Bridge.

lol There is six, there are just no children.

Grey Prince and Barenziah prove that there is indeed a lot of people getting busy with other species on Nirn, that there is indeed a possibility to concieve a child this way and and that the interspecies relationship itself is generally frowned upon, up to the point of being used as blackmail, so people hide it.

2+2

Orcs are Mer and Mer making kids with Men is old news. There are numerous recorded examples and books that verify this, and of course an entire race being the product of that union.

There is not even a single NPC line suggesting that a cat got pregnant from a human or vice versa. Doesn’t mean they didn’t try.

Right. Let's submit this to Skyrim Mythbusters? They'll need a lot of cats though.

If they manage to cross breed wild cats and komodo dragons I’ll so start watching that show regularly again.

Perhaps taking a step back and looking at the big picture is appropriate. There are texts suggesting that Azura created Khajiit to her liking, since some traces of the father end up making their way into the child, perhaps making them so that they can’t breed with men/mer was needed to preserve their appeal to Azura.

IRL hybrid will net them a Nobel Prize.

That Phylogeny book suggests the offspring looks like it's mother. So if there are hybrids on Nirn they are indistinguishable from those made in the traditional way.

They will generally look 100% like their mother, but their personality, skills and affinity to magic may change. Perhaps Azura loves the Khajiit for more than just what meets the eye.

Probably because they only live in Valenwood, are a bunch of High Elf wannabes and are a little insane. Still, I'd love a great ape race. We need more beast races. In fact, just combine them with the monkey race from Akavir. Same goes for the Kajiht and Tiger race. They could just be different breeds. They should also make the Minotaurs into a race. I think they'd make a good beast race. Then we'd have 4 beast races and 12 races overall.

Speaking of races, I think they need to do more to separate the Imperials and Bretons. This is TES, so the imperials don't have to be a copy cat of the Romans. I think they should be given darker skin similar to the Persians. The Bretons could always get slightly pointed ears just to show their elvish blood, but I don't think it's necessary.


As long as they don't get lazy, they can pull it off; not now, but in the future. I think they should do Hammerfell before going on to Elswere, Valenwood, Summerset Isle and Blackmarsh.