Mana regen. Why so slow?

Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:05 pm

Just started a mage. Playing a High-Elf. I'm level 1 with 180 mana (start with 150, 30 mana added from hood) and I'm wearing the robe for 50% faster regen.

I just tested it, out of combat it takes 23 seconds to regen all 180 mana... and while I haven't tested it for time, it's even slower in combat. How am I supposed to kill anything when i'm always sitting there waiting for more mana?
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:06 pm

Increase your mana pool. Regen is proportional. And lower your costs.

Push comes to shove, use a potion.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:07 pm

I heard it increases significantly on higher levels, but I agree that the reduction of regeneration in combat is stupid. It only means more kiting, which isn't a fun way to play the game.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:15 am

Just started a mage. Playing a High-Elf. I'm level 1 with 180 mana (start with 150, 30 mana added from hood) and I'm wearing the robe for 50% faster regen.

I just tested it, out of combat it takes 23 seconds to regen all 180 mana... and while I haven't tested it for time, it's even slower in combat. How am I supposed to kill anything when i'm always sitting there waiting for more mana?


If your only strategy during battle is just to sit and open to attacks in a robe and just wait to let the magicka recover, then you are playing it wrong.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:46 am

Just started a mage. Playing a High-Elf. I'm level 1 with 180 mana (start with 150, 30 mana added from hood) and I'm wearing the robe for 50% faster regen.

I just tested it, out of combat it takes 23 seconds to regen all 180 mana... and while I haven't tested it for time, it's even slower in combat. How am I supposed to kill anything when i'm always sitting there waiting for more mana?


It's been stated, literally a hundred times now that the mana regen enchants are useless. For all intents and purposes is doesn't even do anything. You're better off just stacking +mana until you can get some -%cost.

And now you know what it means to play Destruction. The tree only a masochist could love.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:18 am

You're either going to have to go with mana cost reduction or bust, I think, since the in combat regen is so pitiful.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:53 am

If your only strategy during battle is just to sit and open to attacks in a robe and just wait to let the magicka recover, then you are playing it wrong.


I didn't literally mean sit there... What do you suggest I do once my mana reaches 0 and the enemy is still alive?


It's been stated, literally a hundred times now that the mana regen enchants are useless. For all intents and purposes is doesn't even do anything. You're better off just stacking +mana until you can get some -%cost.

And now you know what it means to play Destruction. The tree only a masochist could love.


In response to the bolded, sorry I don't read every single thread on this forum. I've never seen anyone mention that.
What about the resto perks for regen? Do they help?
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:31 am


In response to the bolded, sorry I don't read every single thread on this forum. I've never seen anyone mention that.
What about the resto perks for regen? Do they help?


Nope. Mana regen is currently useless. Don't bother with it at all.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:48 am

Not sure what the problem is...I only have 24 Conjuration, I think I have ONE perc in it at the moment.

I picked up the Expert Robes of Conjuration has like 20% Cut the Conjuration Spell and has 125% Mana Regen...got a ring that has 60% mana Regen...

=/ Not sure what the problem is, I'm a warrior, but I was trying out the conjuration spells, they eat all of my 220 mana I have instantly but I get it right back to cast some small Ice Spike and maybe a Fire Rune. I just picked up Frost Atronach and it costs like 200 mana...I toss him out there and its time to play. :D He Lasted against a few Giants for the Malacath quest.

My issue is, my conjurations are weak, and don't last long. lol but usually last long enough for me to jump out and spank some one from behind with a two-hander. :P


Only thing I can think of is...Magicka Potions...
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:32 am

I don't understand why Mana Regen is useless if you already have really high mana. Someone enlighten me. :[
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:44 pm

Nope. Mana regen is currently useless. Don't bother with it at all.


Okay then. Thanks.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:29 am

Potions potions potions. There's a whole skill for these for a reason ;)
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:24 am

Magicka regen is reduced to 33% of normal in combat, if you must know. And thus this practically makes robes useless. I only wear them for the mage feeling, and because im playing on adept :P
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:26 am

I guess what I'm telling you OP is...Pick up Expert Robes asap, if you can't/not high enough level, pick up the best robe that cuts the cost of your favorite/most expensive spells, and has the Magicka Regen.
Then, Amulets/Rings that increase magicka or magicka regen...
Pick up Conjur Familiar, Put him out first, then use spells you're good with.
Its like an Archer style character, Hire a Merc, and get the hireling to do all the tanking, while you spank them around.

I would think Bretons and High Elves would have a decent amount of Magica Regen...But I forget, we don't have Signs anymore that help with Magicka pool/regen...I guess aim for The Lord Stone?

I don't know of any Magicka Regen Blessings atm...but Right now, I'm an Orc Raider (Sneaking + Heavy Armor, weird combo yea, I know but its how we roll), I got my Robe and My Wizard Hat (heheheh) and ring/amulet outfit on me and it suits me just fine for my needs...I'd assume if you put all into magicka over health and stamina...you should be sitting pretty versus my gameplay when it comes to magic...@_@
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:54 am

It's been stated, literally a hundred times now that the mana regen enchants are useless. For all intents and purposes is doesn't even do anything. You're better off just stacking +mana until you can get some -%cost.

And now you know what it means to play Destruction. The tree only a masochist could love.


And it has been tested by others that this is a false statement. Apparently they do work but people have been thinking they don't work because they didn't know mana regens slower in combat and with one person saying it doesn't work to anther that person will say the same without actually testing it and so on and so on until everyone has it wrong.

But then I'm just going by what I heard from another, so basically don't take this as an absolute truth unless you've tested it personally.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:43 pm

And it has been tested by others that this is a false statement. Apparently they do work but people have been thinking they don't work because they didn't know mana regens slower in combat and with one person saying it doesn't work to anther that person will say the same without actually testing it and so on and so on until everyone has it wrong.

But then I'm just going by what I heard from another, so basically don't take this as an absolute truth unless you've tested it personally.

I have tested it personally. +Mana regen gear does work in combat. However, base mana regen in combat is so low that buffing it by a % (even 200%+) is not worth it. It is much more effective just to reduce the cost of spells.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:59 am

Magicka regen is reduced to 33% of normal in combat, if you must know. And thus this practically makes robes useless. I only wear them for the mage feeling, and because im playing on adept :P



Again...not sure if this is because of your gameplay or not...but I just put my game at Apprentice last night because I was getting smashed by Forsworn Briar-Harts and Trolls (Mehrune's Dagon Razor Quest area)...but I've been playing the game at Adept till last night.

My spells have been fine, Ice Spike is usually a hard hitting spell, I could only imagine if I had Percs in the destruction tree my ice spike in two hands would fuggen one shot people like the mofo's for Sanguine's Tower (The Cryomancer) does to me almost every time...

Seriously, All mages I would suggest Conjuration and Destruction, don't go one tree. Use conjuration to deal with multiple people, use destruction to pick off people one by one, HEll the Flame Atronach EXPLODES When she dies, so I send that [censored] out first, let them beat on her till she is dead, she blows up, hurts them even more, I come out swinging for the cheap seats.

Again, this is as a Basic build, This is my first character so I have all my stats rounded, like each of my things is 220 atm.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:04 am

I have a save file at level 81 with 0 perks spent. I could easily enchant some armor/jewelry to reduce my mana cost to 0, but this takes all fun out of the game imo. I'll deal with my mana, just wondering why it's so slow. I don't think it should be reduced in combat. My high level archer, with 200 stamina and stam regen enchants goes from 0 to full in under 5 seconds, in combat... don't know why mana got gypped.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:58 am

I have a save file at level 81 with 0 perks spent. I could easily enchant some armor/jewelry to reduce my mana cost to 0, but this takes all fun out of the game imo. I'll deal with my mana, just wondering why it's so slow. I don't think it should be reduced in combat. My high level archer, with 200 stamina and stam regen enchants goes from 0 to full in under 5 seconds, in combat... don't know why mana got gypped.

Probably because if your mana bar refilled in 5 seconds in combat like your stamina bar you would still be able to spam spells like they were free, except you could do that for every spell in the game and not be limited to just 2 schools. Having mana regen in less than 5 seconds would take way more fun out of your game than just being able to cast 2 schools for free.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:57 pm

Both my Destruction and my conjuration is less then 30 ATM...and I have perfectly fine Regen at level 34 (My character level 34) and an ORC for that matter...
With my Expert Robes of Conjuration, (Cuts Conjuration spells by 20% Mana Cost, and 125% Mana Regen) then my Ring with 60% Mana Regen...

I'm about to get some Boots with Magica regen and such...it will just...plop my mana bar just fine. The thing is, with percs it cuts [censored] in half...so again...

IF my Orc went Destruction and Conjuration vs Two Handed/One Handed, all my spells would be cut in half...and my conjuration spells would last longer for half the cost + 20% off with the robes on...

THAT in Essence..is...messing with your mana bar. Think about it...Conjure Flame Atronach is what? 120 Magicka? Cut 20% off after 50% off on Apprentice/Adept Spells...(I think Flame is Apprentice, Frost is Adept...)...yea...

Then just do the rest in Destruction. You're obviously not going to go Blacksmithing as a Mage (that would be something you do later like my Orc Raider isn't going Alchemy or Enchanting yet...).

So...PerK that magic tree up, Put all your stats in Magica/Stamina (Stamina so you can carry more loot!)...FIND the Robes don't BUY them, I found every enchanted item besides my Dwindling Frost Resistance Necklance (40%) from loot.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:35 pm

Probably because if your mana bar refilled in 5 seconds in combat like your stamina bar you would still be able to spam spells like they were free, except you could do that for every spell in the game and not be limited to just 2 schools. Having mana regen in less than 5 seconds would take way more fun out of your game than just being able to cast 2 schools for free.


Not saying it should be as fast as stam.... just saying it's too slow.
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:50 pm

Not saying it should be as fast as stam.... just saying it's too slow.

I agree, but until they patch it or mods are out (if you play on PC) reducing the cost is really the only option mages have. If you feel 100% reduction is too powerful then try it with 75% reduction and see how that feels.
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Post » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:33 am

anyone know the Magicka Regen Cap %?
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