if mannimarco : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Mon May 07, 2012 8:35 pm

I like how quickly this went from meiotic inchronate-akavaporates to Dracochrysalis

» Mon May 07, 2012 10:02 pm

It's one of our fads right now. It's hot on our minds.

» Mon May 07, 2012 4:48 pm

I like how quickly this went from meiotic inchronate-akavaporates to Dracochrysalis

Dracochrysalis is one of those things that's always relevant, like CHIM. Also like CHIM is will devour all other conversation going on at the time.

» Tue May 08, 2012 4:49 am

Dracochrysalis is one of those things that's always relevant, like CHIM. Also like CHIM is will devour all other conversation going on at the time.

So which will win in a different confrontation? Dracochrysalis or CHIM?

I'm going with VEKH

» Mon May 07, 2012 1:57 pm

The only time Dracochrysalis has ever been mentioned in an official setting was the Nu-Mantia Intercepts, so how then are we throwing that word around so much? I'll ask again:

Someone please link some sources that, while not mentioning Dracochrysalis directly still imply its existence and mortals achieving it? I'm very interested in getting my Dracochrysalis merit badge.

» Mon May 07, 2012 8:13 pm

I was never implying that everyone I listed was a dracochrysalizer, just that they ascended. I was working off 'if mannimarco' 'seven', and all I really knew about manni was that he ascended, so I started counting

» Tue May 08, 2012 12:06 am

I hypothesize that Mannimarco has mantled Magnus. He used the Mantella, which depending on your interpretation contains the soul of Zurin Arctus, who represented Magnus in the whole Lorkhan/Magnus/Akatosh interplay with Tiber and Wulfharth. Of course, it's more likely that he is mantling Arkay rather than Magnus, but it is much less interesting.

» Tue May 08, 2012 3:46 am

I was never implying that everyone I listed was a dracochrysalizer, just that they ascended. I was working off 'if mannimarco' 'seven', and all I really knew about manni was that he ascended, so I started counting

The OP was a spammer. The first post was therefore deleted.

The wound was inflicted by non-information. Before infection could grow, the contagion was ripped out, and now pure conjecture and inquisition bleeds until order-platelets coalesce, clot the blood, the thread closes, and all of this is thought over.

» Tue May 08, 2012 3:02 am

The only time Dracochrysalis has ever been mentioned in an official setting was the Nu-Mantia Intercepts, so how then are we throwing that word around so much? I'll ask again:

Someone please link some sources that, while not mentioning Dracochrysalis directly still imply its existence and mortals achieving it? I'm very interested in getting my Dracochrysalis merit badge.

You're going about it all wrong.

» Tue May 08, 2012 2:21 am

You're going about it all wrong.

Yes yes, very possible. So what's the right way to go about it? All I know is that the only time I saw the word beyond the forums was in the Nu-Mantia Intercepts, and there seem to be a lot of forms of ascending. Dracochrysalis seems very unique.

All I want is a few sources that offer a few bits of corroborating evidence so that I may continue my path to understanding this very odd form of apotheosis.

Or are you saying I should be using a compass and two sticks?

» Tue May 08, 2012 2:09 am

I was never implying that everyone I listed was a dracochrysalizer, just that they ascended. I was working off 'if mannimarco' 'seven', and all I really knew about manni was that he ascended, so I started counting

The original question was asking that since Mannimarco got split in two from the Warp in the West, how many others did this occur to?

» Mon May 07, 2012 11:40 pm

The original question was asking that since Mannimarco got split in two from the Warp in the West, how many others did this occur to?

Mannimarco got split in two? What are the two pieces? The Revenant and the wimpy Altmer from Oblivion?

And Lady N's answer was seven other beings? Hmm... what were they?

» Tue May 08, 2012 1:54 am

Mannimarco got split in two? What are the two pieces? The Revenant and the wimpy Altmer from Oblivion?

And Lady N's answer was seven other beings? Hmm... what were they?

Yup. And I suspect Lady N was just trolling right back, since that was pretty much the only post resembling an actual real thought that guy had before he got banned, unless seven other people had that happen while I wasn't looking.

» Tue May 08, 2012 4:25 am

Or she was correcting him- Mannimarco split into seven, one of which became a god, the rest of which recoalesced once Numidium was gone.

» Tue May 08, 2012 4:58 am

Or she was correcting him- Mannimarco split into seven, one of which became a god, the rest of which recoalesced once Numidium was gone.

This, but not quite. I was going off the seven not recombining - a theory with which this particular spammer was well familiar.

I don't actually recall if the question asked if other beings got slip, I originally read it as asking if Mani split into more pieces. So I could just have misread and answered to a different question, creating this legendary thread.

» Mon May 07, 2012 1:10 pm

Iirc Dracochrysalis is implied / alluded to by the Annuad, and all the sources which mention the once-mortal gods of the Altmer (Phynaster, Syrabane, and Xarxes)

I hypothesize that Mannimarco has mantled Magnus. He used the Mantella, which depending on your interpretation contains the soul of Zurin Arctus, who represented Magnus in the whole Lorkhan/Magnus/Akatosh interplay with Tiber and Wulfharth. Of course, it's more likely that he is mantling Arkay rather than Magnus, but it is much less interesting.

He didn't mantle anything. He became his own god, seperate from all the other gods, and occasionally eclipsing one of them.

» Mon May 07, 2012 12:53 pm

This, but not quite. I was going off the seven not recombining - a theory with which this particular spammer was well familiar.

I don't actually recall if the question asked if other beings got slip, I originally read it as asking if Mani split into more pieces. So I could just have misread and answered to a different question, creating this legendary thread.

Seven pieces then. Mannimarco became Arkay, and seven more for each Divine, save Talos? How would that work anyway? I understand Arkay, but what evidence or otherwise rational information could suggest he was split up seven ways?

I actually need to read up on Warp in the West metaphysics. I'm a bit hazy on all of that, especially the stuff concerning Talos' apotheosis, the freeing of the Mantella's heart, and all that King of Worms hullabaloo.

» Tue May 08, 2012 4:59 am

Seven pieces then. Mannimarco became Arkay, and seven more for each Divine, save Talos? How would that work anyway? I understand Arkay, but what evidence or otherwise rational information could suggest he was split up seven ways?

No, nothing to do with the divines. I just proposed one Manimarco for each of the possible endings of Daggerfall.

» Mon May 07, 2012 3:26 pm

No, nothing to do with the divines. I just proposed one Manimarco for each of the possible endings of Daggerfall.

Ah, makes enough sense.

» Mon May 07, 2012 9:37 pm

Yup. And I suspect Lady N was just trolling right back, since that was pretty much the only post resembling an actual real thought that guy had before he got banned, unless seven other people had that happen while I wasn't looking.

The KoW was split into two, the Revenant and an as-yet unseen lich like the Daggerfall version perhaps. Of course, it's possible the Altmer was simply a husk after he used Morgiah's firstborn to transfer his soul into.

Everything would seem to point to the Altmer not being Mannimarco The Actual, including game mechanics themselves; the Warp in the West wouldn't magically "cure" Mannimarco of preexisting lichdom.

» Tue May 08, 2012 4:32 am

For reference, this was the original question: If Mannimarco became both his oblivion self And necromancerr moon in alternate timelines from dragon Break then how many others from daggerfall has this happen to??

» Mon May 07, 2012 2:14 pm

So deep

» Mon May 07, 2012 4:29 pm

The hub of the chrysalis-silver caused by the warp was caused by eleven, not seven.

» Mon May 07, 2012 4:40 pm

So deep

That's what Vehk said... hurhurhurhurhur