The mist idea actually isn't bad. Increase the mist as the player goes, until eventually it encompasses everything and THEN throw up the invisible wall. Maybe make it so the player can always see what's behind him so he doesn't get completely lost.

And if it's not like that on release I think we just came up with the first expansion pack for the devs.

'The Elder Scrolls V: Taking of Morrowind'
A war-ish type mod of expansion of repopulating and rebuilding cties, making them Nord like.

Or they wait until you can't see anything but fog, including where you came from, then throw up the wall. Then you would have no way of really knowing you were stopped, for all you know you are still moving forward. Then you look at your map, and you are right on the border. You shed a tear and simply turn around, or fast travel out.

I like the way you think. You're hired.


Too bad I don't work for Beth

Skyrim already has natural barriers http://www.imperial-library.info/content/skyrim-map. It's surrounded by mountain ranges and the ocean on the north side. Steep cliffs could be a solution. Hmm... but what if the player could levitate...



Yep, that's what I was thinking. Somewhat a la http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckiw_1wDEQw&feature=related maybe?

The only thing is, that's not a topographical map.

There's no guarantee those mountains are uncrossable.

In fact thinking logically, they would have to be crossable, or else Skyrim would have practically no contact with other provinces save by boat.

Someone suggested like an Imperial Crossing Border thingy, so maybe theres only one or two paths out of Skyrim, and the mountains are imapassablee. Then you need documentation to leave the province, which you cant get in game.

How about in areas you can get out, instead of having you run into the air without moving, it just makes your body stop and you stand out and look at the world, and you can only run in a 180 degree angle, that is, away or along the border?

They should probably do the same for running into walls.

Personally I don't mind the invisible barriers

But rather than say stop you can't go that way change it to "I still have things to do here" or something.

Either that or have infinitely repeating terrain

I'll stick with invisible walls, nothing crazy.

I don't understand why people don't like an artificial barrier like "invisible walls" but then go ahead and suggest equally artificial barriers like unpassable mountains or monsters or water. Id Prefer being near the edge and it looks like normal land, anything else would just take you out of the game. Even Morrowind was awkward since the island was so close to the mainland you should be able to have seen it.

Or, cliff racers that start chasing you and are saying
"MOO! RUU! WE BITE ASS! IF YOU NO SHO!"
I think this is a perfectly logical idea considering how our friend Jiub from Morrowind chased them into Skyrim and became a saint.
Oh speaking of morrowing I hope Im not playing the game and looking at the border and saying "Ohh no...Vvardenfell will be oblivion, and your little dandy mainland will be infested with CUTE LITTLE LIZARDS argonians in a few decades!

Yeah, to be honest, it'd just be more awkward to have anything else there. Invisible barriers are just simple and unintrusive and you don't have to make anything crazy to stop it. That's why I made my suggestion that it just makes it seem as if you don't want to got there and aren't defying physics, by stopping you walking.

If you're reading this, Bethesda, please consider my suggestion to have a red velvet rope around the entire perimeter of Skyrim with periodic signage stating "Please do not step past this line." It's the only way to please everyone.

I think that if an Elder Scrolls game used an impenetrable fog, everyone here would be complaining about how ridiculous that is. It sounds like a good idea, in theory.

I preferred the too-high-to-climb mountains, if I could tell by looking at them that I would not be able to climb them. I hated to be most of the way up in Oblivion, only to find out I had to turn around and go back. The invisible wall made sense in the forest and water areas--endless forest and you'd still have to have some kind of barrier letting you know that there is no more game to play in that direction, and that you should turn around and go back. I wouldn't mind some of the area being walled off, because I only don't mind the invisible wall when I expect it to be there (no surprises!). A wall would let us know we have no reason to continue in that direction.

The invisible wall made sense only because we already know that we are being limited to only a part of the map, and aren't supposed to venture into other parts of Tamriel. We have nothing to do there.

I remember downloading some Oblivion mod that let me keep going past the invisible wall at one point. To me, at least, it was pointless and quickly removed.

Hm... a lot of disagreement. There is only one fool-proof solution. The next game must encompass all of Nirn.

They could even make a joke about the bureaucracy in Skyrim and send you in circles to no avail trying to get your documents to leave the province. (Think the beginning of Ikiru) :rofl:

Even Akavir, Pyandonea, Atmora, Yokuda, Thras and all the other olace I'm forgetting?


Ahh, think of all the angry threads on here... :ahhh:

Mountains, with few valleys into the other provinces.
These valleys should be guarded by soldiers and a few towers, and they would :gun: you if you tried to pass.
And really, I don't see the problem with invisible walls. :happy:

a bit off topic lol but the first time i played oblivion ( was very young and foolish) i thought the game was morrowind, and tamirel the entire continent playable, that'd be cool a tes rpg if it was entire tamriel but one can dream

on topic: i don't really mind what they do as long as it doesnt ruin anything for me as oblivions didnt.

Yeah. Morrowind could work that way because it was an island, Skyrim is not, so the invisible walls will almost definitely be there. They could also implement some more lore-friendly means of keeping us from leaving the province. There is a civil war going on, and an invasion to boot. It's possible, if not entirely likely, that the provinces borders have somehow been closed off.

Most likely though, the invisible walls shall make their return.

This would be freakin' awesome!

just for the record, morrowind DID have invisible walls
it was like a giant invisible curtain around the island, however, there were no markers from which you could tell if you were moving or not, so you just thought you were swimming forever.