Hello, After reading this statement in another recently formed thread.

Played a game with one of the Developers "CrytekRichW" (IF any doubters would like to cross check that gamertag with the Crysis 2 play with devs day on the official EA site)

He said that they have finished the first DLC pack and are working on the second so when its released is anyones guess.

Hope that helped!

This got me wondering, They made that map pack, pretty quick.

The word is that the map pack will contain four maps.Now this game has been out for just under 3 weeks.


So that puts it at averagely 5 days to make each map assuming that they didn't start before release.

Now thats pretty quick, pretty damn quick.. But moving on to my main debate.

If they can kick out 4 four decent maps in less than 3 weeks ( All the maps I have been playing seem solid enough technically so we'll assume they are the same calibre ) then one would ask one self how they had shipped a game that they had spent 3 years + developing which is still riddled with many bugs and has a low calibre netcode P2P system.

Whats your thoughts? Do you think they started making these maps after release and because of the Cryengine 3's power they could do such a task or did they do the dirty and already have the DLC ready before release?

In the full Beta build that got leaked onto the internet a few months before release it contained a DLC file with the aledged four maps that will be available in the aledged retaliation DLC map pack.

Me personally I think they had the DLC ready Pre-Release.


DLC's purpose is to add things that they didn't have time for and then charge for the DLC to make it businessly sound, why hold back maps that are good to go and not put them on the disc?

Me personally I think they had the DLC ready Pre-Release.

You guessed correctly. That is standard operating procedure for games today. Of course they didn't make it in the past three weeks.

Why would it be a surprise that part of the development time was set aside to creat additional content to be sold after release?

As already stated above, its pretty much standard practice in modern game development

not if its just maps from single player(which i bet it will be) doubt they will release anytime soon as theres to much hate for crytek at the moment.

They probably didn't have them finished in time to go through certification and manufacturing. Hell you've played it, the game itself is barely finished.

They shipped 12 MP maps plus they're all good and fun. I think that's quite a bit.

Besides, I think you're trolling a tad =p

Me personally I think they had the DLC ready Pre-Release.




Nail on the head for me, personally EA are a greedy company and I would not be suprised because most of the prior games have had DLC already pre made, its like they just snipped part off the final game and are re packaging it as "DLC" and coming to a nice agreement with good ol M$ over who gets what in terms of the sale value.

DLC my ass EA/Crytek.

Me personally I think they had the DLC ready Pre-Release.




Nail on the head for me, personally EA are a greedy company and I would not be suprised because most of the prior games have had DLC already pre made, its like they just snipped part off the final game and are re packaging it as "DLC" and coming to a nice agreement with good ol M$ over who gets what in terms of the sale value.

DLC my ass EA/Crytek.

The DLC I know is

" sorry guys but we were so hard at work developing the actual main game to make it as flawless as possible, we didn't have enough time to put these maps in "

It seems devs and publishers are taking DLC in a different approach nowadays.

Tho this seems **** with the current problems with the games and such and it does make people want to go "WTF FIX THE GAME FIRST." It makes sense if you look at it from a business stand point tho. I'm sure they have a team of at least 3-5 people who do nothing but make maps using a sandbox. This being said, these people aren't going to sit around all day getting paid for nothing and if their skills don't overlap into other stages of development, such as working on patches and what not, it seems that they would be constantly creating maps.

I would also think that out of every 10 maps they create 6 of them are probably deemed not good enough for release.

Just my thoughts tho, I don't know anymore than you all do.

The DLC I know is

" sorry guys but we were so hard at work developing the actual main game to make it as flawless as possible, we didn't have enough time to put these maps in "

It seems devs and publishers are taking DLC in a different approach nowadays.



"Sorry guys we were to busy removing files from the main game folder and renaming them DLC that we did not have enough time to build a stable net code"

*fixed

Well I wont be spending any money on new maps, even if they correct the games issues onlines...fact is of all the maps currently available, piss poor map rotation means you only see 5-6 of them in any gaming session...only got the cheevo for playing all the maps on release day because myself and friends spent most of the afternoon and evening playing MP non stop

You guys clearly don't know anything about work flow, business management and project planning.

In order to maintain a business various parts of the dev team have to be working on different things within different stages of development. Various parts of the team may already be working on DLC 2 and 3 while others are moved to help with Kingdoms and some have even started working on Crysis 3.

The days of everyone on the dev team taking a vacation once a game has shipped are long gone. Good developers have multiple projects planned spanning over a period of years even decades.

And yes surprisingly people do this for money so they can eat and live. Bizarre, I know, but its true!

You guys clearly don't know anything about work flow, business management and project planning.

In order to maintain a business various parts of the dev team have to be working on different things within different stages of development. Various parts of the team may already be working on DLC 2 and 3 while others are moved to help with Kingdoms and some have even started working on Crysis 3.

The days of everyone on the dev team taking a vacation once a game has shipped are long gone. Good developers have multiple projects planned spanning over a period of years even decades.

And yes surprisingly people do this for money so they can eat and live. Bizarre, I know, but its true!

Dont try to use logic or any kind of experience of being in a job to explain to these people, its really not worth the trouble.

I tried that mate, doesnt register with them.

You guys clearly don't know anything about work flow, business management and project planning.

In order to maintain a business various parts of the dev team have to be working on different things within different stages of development. Various parts of the team may already be working on DLC 2 and 3 while others are moved to help with Kingdoms and some have even started working on Crysis 3.

The days of everyone on the dev team taking a vacation once a game has shipped are long gone. Good developers have multiple projects planned spanning over a period of years even decades.

And yes surprisingly people do this for money so they can eat and live. Bizarre, I know, but its true!

I hate people like you trying to educate people when you yourself are mis educated.

One thing everybody knows is the fact that Good developers are ones that make a finished game and make sure that the product is the best that it could be one launch. I.E. Bungie with Halo: Reach or Dice with BattleField BC2.

I'm not talking about if the games fun or balanced i'm talking about it being finished technically ( An acceptable amount of bugs and proper testing of their online systems ).

Please don't spread biased opinions, it makes the world a not so nice place to be.

Please don't spread biased opinions, it makes the world a not so nice place to be.

Saying that people use money from jobs in order to pay for possessions is not biased at all, if a game is "unfinished" is, its possible that Crytek wanted some glitches i.e. overlapping music because a dev is a dike.
Or really laggy online play like in Halo Reach.

/Responding to people who think "Mis" is a word

Video game makers create DLC during production of the full game all the time, this isn't a new trend.
Halo 3 was being thought of/created before the rushed release of Halo 2.

Please don't spread biased opinions, it makes the world a not so nice place to be.

Saying that people use money from jobs in order to pay for possessions is not biased at all, if a game is "unfinished" is, its possible that Crytek wanted some glitches i.e. overlapping music because a dev is a dike.
Or really laggy online play like in Halo Reach.

/Responding to people who think "Mis" is a word

Video game makers create DLC during production of the full game all the time, this isn't a new trend.
Halo 3 was being thought of/created before the rushed release of Halo 2.

Yeah well I found Halo: Reach to have the best P2P system I have ever experienced on consoles.

It is common practice to finish up the DLC in the final moments before the game releases and then get ready to put it out in a few weeks to months.


I personally think it was done before the game was released.

I'm loving the game when it works, which is 86.5% of the time for me.
I would also love some new maps to play on, however it seems the timing of this leak of information is unfortunate given the amount of topics and posts by people that seem to be having issues with the game.
If we were just informed if the rumoured patch is actually with Microsoft for certification, it would calm a lot of the understandable anger/frustration being vented on this forum at the moment.

I'm loving the game when it works, which is 86.5% of the time for me.
I would also love some new maps to play on, however it seems the timing of this leak of information is unfortunate given the amount of topics and posts by people that seem to be having issues with the game.
If we were just informed if the rumoured patch is actually with Microsoft for certification, it would calm a lot of the understandable anger/frustration being vented on this forum at the moment.


I feel lucky just by the fact that they told us the release date for the game judging by the customer service on here.

Maybe they won't tell anybody about Crysis 3 and just keep it between themselves and secretly play it.

I feel lucky just by the fact that they told us the release date for the game judging by the customer service on here.

Maybe they won't tell anybody about Crysis 3 and just keep it between themselves and secretly play it.

lol. Nah, I expect Crysis3 to cost $70 and come with a sheet of paper that says "We owe you one MP game."

I hope that when they release they DLC it will have more than four maps. Four maps is not enough, six would be great I and won't be pleased to be paying 1200 MS points if there isn't.

What I know for sure is that I won't be buying any DLC until at least 50% of the problems now are solved. Out of principle.

Yet again, people show their MASSIVE ignorance.

The game came out 3 weeks ago, yes, but do you really think they were working on it up until the day it arrived in the shops? Has it not occured to anyone it was finished over a month prior due to needing to be copied to hundreds of thousands of discs and delivered worldwide? Does nobody realise the art would have been finished way before the final coding and testing? What do you think the art team have been doing in that time?

Some people need an IQ test before they post.

Hmmm take my money, ignore my questions, ask for more money when I haven't been able to enjoy your product properly.....


Sorry Crytek I ain't buying anyhing else from you, I bought the LE edition on release and haven't been able to use the MP to any resonable extent because of its piss poor state. I come to your offical outlet just to get the run around from people I'd expect to have some form of information. And now DLC maps will come out (hopefully at the same time as the MP gets fixed) and I will have problems finding games because many players will be in the new maps I won't have.... This amounts to failure....

Ahahah IQ tests.... Intelligence Quota my white arse, go ahead a utilise that racist excuse for "determining" an individuals intelligence....


Some people need a pre-frontal lobotomy before they are allowed to interact with other people in facet.....

Why are IQ tests racist?

Edit: Never mind, googled it. Not a topic for this forum

You do realise all of what you people are saying is pure specualtion.

Can one of you confirm 100% what you say? in that they finished DLC before launch? or that they have ignored the bugs and worked solely on DLC? how can anyone know that besides EA & Crytek?

P.S. The IQ test is outdated and irrelevant in that there is different branches of intelligence and the IQ test does not take all into account, Sigmund freud said there are 3 distinct levels of intelligence that we know of, Memory, logic & visual intelligence.

Neither MENSA nor the IQ test take all these variations of intelligence into account so I and many other people believe they are misleading.