Just Cause 2 is great, but its map is waay too large for Skyrim. You don't have airplanes and helicopters in fantasy RPG. Try playing JC2 by not using air vehicles and it becomes unplayable.
For me, size of Far Cry 2 map would be perfect. Detailed and large enough.

It technically is smaller than Oblivion. One thing to keep in mind is that the provinces that BGS builds in game are not to scale as they would be on a map of Tamriel. Skyrim will probably be roughly the same size of Cyrodill, if not bigger. Considering BGS has added 30 new employees, hopefully that means there will just be more in Skyrim overall.

Well, that's not really a trend. I mean, Daggerfall was 63 thousand square miles while Morrowind after it was 10 square miles and Oblivion was 16 square miles. It's most likely that Skyrim will be bigger than Oblivion but until that happens, it really can't be a trend with only one game after Morrowind.

Anything larger than WoW is overkill. I'd be happy with a Far Cry 2 size world, maybe slightly bigger.

Here's how big Oblivion's Tamriel is.
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5220/scalek.png

Arma 2 has a 125 square mile map with better graphics than Crysis.*

Anything is possible nowadays. It's just a question of what is a practical priority for gameplay.



*in terms of realistic natural terrain and quality of models and textures. Crysis looks better once you drench it in visual effects.

Just Cause 2 and Farcry 2 made me want to tear my eyes out. Big worlds yes....but terrible games.

Moving on.

Yes i am pretty sure Skyrim will be much bigger then Oblivion.

You sir have totally no taste in games.

Far cry 2 is still my number 2 xbox game

and Just cause was great in its roots to!

Learn to divert facts and personal opinions next time.

1000 feet
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/WildcatA.jpg

Just like Oblivion.



I guess 9000 feet for Skyrim mountains. I think big.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Shishapangma.jpg

Also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altitude_sickness

A nice way to have borders.

The 7000 steps alone are 4000ft

Yeah, like I said, the mountain terrain will make it almost unavoidable to have a map larger than Cyrodill, especially with High Hrothgar.

i want a larger gameplay world with fallout 3 density and red dead redemption wildlife interaction

They say that the from Torval in Elsweyr to the border of Valenwood is a few hundred miles and look at it from http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/6812/208136-elsweyr_large.jpg

Who's they?

Whoever 'they' are, they're wrong. I've seen maps with scale her before, and it wasn't that far. However, there is a bridge from the mainland of Cyrodiil into the imperial city that is about 50 miles across.


Also,

http://i.imgur.com/xJU7Q.jpg

Check that one out.

That's only http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topographic_prominence. Its elevation is actually 26000 feet. :thumbsup:

if the game world doesn't get bigger i at least hope for even more locations.

I made a size chart to give you guys an idea about how big the game worlds are.
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8416/mapsizes.jpg

It would be very helpful if someone posted an official source saying that Daggerfall is realistically scaled.

Anyways, hopefully it is bigger than Oblivions. I actually thought Oblivion's world was too dense, it was ridiculous to run across three forts, five caves, a couple of farms, etc, within five minutes. We need an environment that actually looks like an imprisonment, not one that is littered with random buildings all over the place.

Yes, Arma 2 has a massive game world. I just started playing that game and my jaw dropped because it doesn't have NO LOADING screens when you traverse the landscape. Pure streaming technology. The AI is one of the best I've ever seen in my life. For example, I got in a car and commanded a friendly AI to drive me from point A to point B. While I was in the passenger seat enjoying the beautiful countryside, this AI traverse about 200km through highways, towns, winding roads and bike trails avoiding all kinds of objects along the way. The travel took about an hour. The drive wasn't robotic or artificial. In other words, the AI was speeding, slowing down, stopping if there was an obstacle nearby and sometimes going off the beaten path to find a more convenient road. Nothing is scripted. When you kill an npc he will never respawn; he's body along with the blood decal will still be there all the time. The war is in real -time, in other words, while you are in a mission in one area your friendly troops are fighting 225km away at the same time. You can radio them to do duties for you in real-time. If you died, the war continues on without you. Indeed, this game is not player-centric. You probably saying what this has to do with the topic? Well, very much. It's easy to create a massive world such as Just Cause 2 but to have a level of advanced AI, not to mention the game calculating through out the map all ballistics being fired (bullet drop, wind deflection, damage to objects, calibre used) will bring Just Cause 2 fps to its knees. Arma 2 is a simulator so graphics, though surprisingly good and at times Crysis quality, is not its priority. People unfamiliar with Arma 2 want flashy Crysis-CoD style graphics but it's impossible for such a real-time open ended game world with such advanced mechanics and no loading screens to cater both things acceptably. There has to be a compromise somewhere.

62.394 mi2 dagger fall , i would love to see with 300 to 800 mi2 for skyrim atleast.

the biggerthe better the more they can add in dlc for it.

i didnt play these til IV, but i noticed F3 was smaller than IV and NV was smaller than F3.

im sure this will be smaller than oblivion too. quality over quanity i guess.

i would be happy with 2x-4x the size as well if it has something in it.

The bigger the better :drool:

Perhaps the steps don't begin until you are 2,000 feet up the mountain.