I guess it's an equal trade then. :laugh:

:shifty:

Ohhhhhhhh.......... :facepalm: My bad i guess...

It's okay, jokes of that type sometimes dont come across well on the net. :laugh:

Exactly

Think we'll see Area 51 in the game in some from? If Vegas is indeed near the center of the map, it wouldn't be too far fetched to see it right?

I played a lot of GTA:VC and a fair amount of GTA:SA, likewise I spent roughly 100 hours in FO3, with Oblivion I probably got around 80 hours in. As long as it is not like Oblivion (no offense to Oblivion but that map was huge and barren) I will be happy. :disguise:




It is always available through Netflix instant streaming :celebration:

...O ye of little faith. :mellow:

Pretty sure they've told us that Area 51 will not be in game. I could be wrong though.

After a quick look at Google Earth, the map is (roughly) 50x50 miles if New Vegas is at the center. Goodspring (as an example) is roughly 25 miles south-west from Las Vegas. Goodspring itself is 41 miles west of a point due south of Hoover Dam.

They told us

According to a rather http://www.psnathome.com/general/fallout-new-vegas-details-emerge.html, Area 51 is supposed to be in game. If it is, it would be somewhere north-west of New Vegas (approx 80 miles) assuming its location conformed to the real world placement.

In our latest podcast, I talked to Feargus a bit about the boundaries of the New Vegas map. You can listen to it http://bethblog.com/index.php/2010/10/01/the-bethesda-podcast-episode-3-parity-error/.

THE DEVS HAVE CONFIRMED ABOUT 4 TIMES ON THIS VERY FORUM THAT IT ISN'T IN.

I can't listen to it. Can anyone elaborate please?

Well im playing in hardcoe mode... (Yes that is when guide is MOST helpful) ...But im not geting the guide for a few reasons. One i am hardcoe as all get out, meaning i don't want a guide at all even sitting there tempting me. I want to learn as my character learns. That will make it seem more immersive. This will also give more time to playing the game if i have to search around for somthing.

Map size was said to be just as big as Fallout 3 (Cooler tho cause there is moutains!)

With a map size about as big as FO3 is good enough for me.I'm just hoping there's more variety of places to visit and not just the same-styled locations to visit.They got old and boring very quickly.

Yeah, it's great to find something by your own as it gives you the feeling of success. Also it's nice to find different ways to solve quests with different kind of character builds, instead of just checking it out and then making the same kinda build as described to see the outcome. Also playing without guide really increases the replayability value of the game.

For example it took me 5 years of playing Fallout 2 to find Anna's ghost in Den and I was amazed that after several run-throughs of the game, it still throwed something new to my face, which had been right under my nose for the whole time. It's too bad that some people want everything given to them right away, instead of spending their time looking into it. To me it's a waste of money in 2 ways, by spending your money on the guide and by making the gameplay experience duller.

I hope I have a big enough playground to explore and enough toys to play with

Agree 100%

IGN did a preview where they walked South for an hour and didn't reach the end of the map... Granted they were distracted a few times by side attractions like Primm, and they faced various enemies that slowed them down, but when the hour was up, they had come to an outpost which apparently was not the end of the map, but rather something that would require a quest/offering to pass. It's an interesting read and it makes me hopeful that NV will be sufficiently large to keep us all entertained for months.

Its basically around the same size, but I got a feeling it will be chalk full of content and little nooks and crannies to explore.

My guess is that outpost was near searchlight

Its the same size as fo3 they already confirmed that but it might be a different shape and it definetly is a different layout.

Fo3 was you starting near the middle and circling out. This one you start in one corner and tend to head to the other side of the map with new vegas not on the other side but more then halfway there.

Because they use the same system and have said so, the actual generated portion of the map is identical in size. Literally EXACTLY THE SAME. The difference in how much you actually get to walk around in, but it should be almost the same, if not a little more assuming half of NV isnt blocked off by rubble like in the DC city. But its literally the same grid of 64x64 1024 unit cells Fo3 was made from.