Marksmanship Options

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:08 am

So there are alot of things we all missed when Oblivion came out, sequel to Morrowind. If there's one thing I know I missed the most, its crossbows. Sure the bow and arrow are good, but marksmanship needs to be like other areas - more than one type of marksman weapon. For instance theres more than one type of sword, or blunt weapon, so why not bring it back? And maybe spears too, so long as they can be thrown ([edit]or for general stabbing)!! Or even throwing knifes! :whoops: We just need more options.
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stephanie eastwood
 
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:25 am

I'm indifferent to crossbows and throwing knives, I never used them. But I would like spears (or something of the sort) to make a return.

Not sure about spears though, because Todd has already confirmed there will be no spears. (I forgot whether he said anything about crossbows, but I'm pretty sure throwing stuff are in)


I don't remember about the exact wording, but in the GI podcast Todd said something like spears might be in the game.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:25 pm

I think crossbows and throwing knives should make a return, they add more versatility to a marksman character.

Not sure about spears though, because Todd has already confirmed there will be no spears. (I forgot whether he said anything about crossbows, but I'm pretty sure throwing stuff are in)
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:07 am

No to crossbows because they can't really be reloaded within a reasonable amount of time for fights in TES and it has already been said that Skyrim is low tech because the nords don't grasp mechanical things and even magic is a rare thing to see in Skyrim.

No to Spears because in their original incarnation they are overpowered and can be used to constantly damage people while keeping them at a safe range.

Yes to throwing knives. I won't be using them but they seem acceptable.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:08 am

Spears are so boss it is not even funny. Best weapon man has ever created. Was the reason we became the top of the food chain. Forced the creation of the shield. The idea and principle of the spear is still used in modern combat. Yet I can't have one in Skyrim :banghead:

Screw fruit! I want my pointed stick!!!
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:27 am

Crossbows would be cool, doesn't quite matter to me whether or not they will return.
No to spears because Todd Howard already said in an interview that there won't be any spears in the vanilla Skyrim. (so mod it)
And I think Throwing Knives would help complete my assassin character :)
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:45 pm

Spears are already confirmed to not be returning, but I'd like to see crossbows and throwing weapons back.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:58 am

I think crossbows and throwing knives should make a return, they add more versatility to a marksman character.

Not sure about spears though, because Todd has already confirmed there will be no spears. (I forgot whether he said anything about crossbows, but I'm pretty sure throwing stuff are in)


I have heard about spears probably not returning. I'm just looking for peoples opinion of what they want to see return, aside from what has been confirmed or not.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:46 am

No to Spears because in their original incarnation they are overpowered and can be used to constantly damage people while keeping them at a safe range.


They were overpowered in their original incarnation, yes, but that's not a reason not to bring them back. The problems with spears in Morrowind can be easily fixed. We already know that the backtracking speed has been reduced, which helps a lot.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:48 am

I've always loved the idea of crossbows. In real world application, they serve a certain purpose. One powerful and accurate shot can give an incredible advantage. They're not quick to load and shouldn't expected to be used in the same capacity as bows.

Any kind of throwing weapon is near useless. If you have a knife and you throw it, what do you have? Well, certainly not a knife. If I'm carrying a knife, I'm keeping it. If I plan on throwing them, I better be carrying a lot. So many, in fact, that I'd have to burden myself with straps, harnesses or bags of knives.

I know arguments about realism go out the window, but lore and lifelike behavior is often a point of contention here. So, would my character in a "real" Elder Scrolls situation go into battle with the burdens of carrying weapons that can't serve a purpose better that more efficient ones? I don't think I would.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:23 am

I have heard about spears probably not returning. I'm just looking for peoples opinion of what they want to see return, aside from what has been confirmed or not.


In that case, I woudl definitely want to see the return of spears; too bad I can't get mods. :confused:
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:08 am

I did edit my above post, kinda realizing that the idea of throwing spears is a little crazy, they weigh a bit, and carrying multiples... hmm, idk. But for general spear stabbing use, sure. Which in this case I know makes them not so much a marksman option. But still should return. :P
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:04 am

I did edit my above post, kinda realizing that the idea of throwing spears is a little crazy, they weigh a bit, and carrying multiples... hmm, idk. But for general spear stabbing use, sure. Which in this case I know makes them not so much a marksman option. But still should return. :P


To be fair, throwing spears are in Fallout: New Vegas. It'd be interesting to see throwing spears in Skyrim (What Todd actually said is a bit enigmatic; he said spears won't be implemented "in the traditional sense")
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:28 pm

Crossbows, Heck Yea

Spears Heck Yea

Of course both of these if possible.

Throwing Knives What! No! Because who wants to throw a knife when you could have throwing axes, javelins, and knives. God people get it right.

Of course all these only if possible.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:59 pm

Throwing Knives What! No! Because who wants to throw a knife when you could have throwing axes, javelins, and knives. God people get it right.



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LOL!

Edit: Kept highlighting the wrong things, D'oh! :facepalm:
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:17 pm

I would love spears as they were in New Vegas, definitely more powerful though.

Don't really care about the other two.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:20 am

How about also throwing whatever you want to do minor damage.

Intrudes into a house, seen by an unarmed housewife Housewife: "B***!" *Throws pots at PC* Leaves house.

Probably not but for the lulz anyway. :)
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:06 am

Throwing Knives What! No! Because who wants to throw a knife when you could have throwing axes, javelins, and knives. God people get it right.


Facing ten mages in robes, I'm pretty sure 20-30 throwing knives is better that tossing your only axe...

Yes to all, but I acknowledge that there are "issues" with spears. Even beyond the obvious overpowered thing which can be rebalanced with relative ease.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:15 pm

I want to be able to throw whatever I'm wielding as a weapon... Axe.. Knife... Sword.. Shield(captain skyrim style)..bow.. Frying pan.. Anything I can equip :)

Physics dmg!
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:05 am

1. I would definately like crossbows in the game. If you think about it they easily balance themselves. They should have more accuracy, range and power than a bow but as a trade off it should take 10-15seconds to reload. It would make it an ideal weapon for assasinations and first strikes, while bows would be better for prolonged ranged combat.

2. I voted not sure for spears/polearms. IT all depends on whether we have mounted combat or not to me. I wouldn't want a weapon like this for a straight fight, nut if a goon on a horse was trying to kill me I'd want a polearm or something i can switch out to level the playing field.

3. Throwing weapons would be ok I guess. But the consumable weapons themselves should have a realistic weight so you wouldn't carry more than say 10-15 knives OR 4-5 throwing axes. And the range shouldn't be the same as shooting your bow like a lot of games. I doubt anyone could throw a knife more than 30 metres. And accuracy at that range should be a very long odd.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:15 pm

I would love to see crossbows, given their importance in history and coolness factor.

Would love to see spears and throwing knives too - but fear I would be hoping/asking for too much. :)

Any of them would be coolness +1.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:03 am

Spears are easy to balance, all you need is to give weapons proper hit detection and make spears basicaly useless once in close range. That way if a sword and sheild user gets up in a spear users face, they can wack away at them while the spear user is unable to bring the full force of his spear on them.

Saying a weapon is unbalanced because of its natural traits is silly, in warfare weapons are not made to be 'balanced' they are designed to be as deadly and efficient as possible.

So they way I see it is spears have the advantage of reach but the drawback of versatility, as up close they become less effective.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:09 pm

I didnt vote yes to any because you said they were "boss" thats just a stupid phrase people use now and I am not going with it. Oh and I just dont like the fact that Cross bows would outclass the normal bow. Spears are meh because I dont use them. Oh and throwing knives dont seem Nordic...maye a throwind axe? Or is that called a tomahawk?
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:51 am

lol boss zefron poster


Ahem.

My basic take on any "extra" weapons added in, such as crossbows, spears and so on, is that it'd be awesome provided there is sufficient time to properly balance them. I'd rather one type of marksmanship that feels awesome to use and balances well against other styles of combat than four that don't.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:28 am

people not wanting certain weapons just because they don't use them is a bit narrow minded.

I never use warhammers, but seeing enemies running at me armed with them is realistic and fun.
Variety of weapons an armor is not just for the sake of the player, it also helps to make the world around you more immersive. Thats why there are the basicaly useless iron weapons, and fur armors.
Otherwise we'd have a game were every one wears daedric and nothing else (and as we know from Oblivion bandits, this is VERY VERY BAD. )
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