That makes sense because when I drop them I don't get an iguana at all. I get a kind of iguana stick. Not iguana on a stick, just a stiff stick like thing with an iguana texture.

I'm thinking what I'm actually dropping is the placeholder item that gets added to your inventory when you pick up a live iguana, but the script to replace it with an actual creature when dropped is missing since that wasn't intended to be implemented.

Maybe I just ran into a weaker one with the whole randomized stats thing but I found that the Super Mutant Enforcer had less health/armor than I had expected for such a heavy armored thing.

I've been getting CTDs near the garbage chute in the Cargo Hold in Mothership Zeta.
I hope the brahmin it drops down the chute do not have script multiplication on them.

Trying to find the exact cause of this, still, since both MMM and Mothership Crew were updated around the same time.

I can level up fine when I disable MMM.

I don't have Operation Anchorage, FWE, or UF3P.

Going from level 19 to level 20 caused the crash. I disabled MMM, levelled up, enabled MMM, used advlevel and crashed. I tried using player.setlevel and crashed.

I just made a playthrough of this area with MMM deactivated.
No Crash, no prob.

Problem seems to be related to brahmin in the trash chute and it's script as I said above.
This would tie it to the base mod rather than to the Zeta addon, which had no impact when I shut the Zeat addon alone off.

Edit: Noticing a levelup error when achieving Level 25.

Here's an (experimental) FOOK2-MMM RC6 CP: http://www.fookunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4742
Feedback welcomed; it's just waiting or you Martigen.

On page 4 & 5 of the previous MMM thread there was some discussion of this problem. Middle of page 5 delamer posted a
fix for MMM 6.0 beta 2. Maybe it will work. And if delamer sees this he can possibly respond better.
Sorry I'm still new to posting and don't know how to do this fancy linking stuff.

You are correct it's my placeholder for the inventory which changes in a life Iguana when you drop it.

Hey Martigen, loving your mod as always

Have you ever though of adding this to your mod?

http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=7650

it is coupled with these fixes:

http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10891
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10281

With these I absolutely enjoy Feral Ghoul rampage to its maximum! They really feel like zombies and are slow as the Ghouls in the previous Fallout games where. As it says on one of the files, "teh file of pwnage" :toughninja:

Just for the record: I prefer my ghouls as they are.

Edit: I know there used to be a ghoul model variety pack on the 'nexus, but I can't find it now... Ghouls in labcoats and whatnot.

I too, am having troubles with leveling up (freeze at level 9). Don't know why it didn't pop up before now, but it goes away if I disable MMM. I have gone over my load order and disabled all my mods one by one until there were none. Not using FOOK or FWE, I have completely uninstalled UFP as well, nothing else has worked. Any ideas on what is causing these freeze ups?

FYI my load order:

Not sure if you're aware of this but I'm just going to cross post it from the FWE thread



Very aggressive is bad news bears generally. The FormID is 1CF8D; although someone was saying it happens with all of the Outcast robots.

Fake edit: Actually yea it's all the Outcast Robots.

Edit: Scratch that Sentry Bots look to be normal (I.E. Aggressive, not Very)

Sometimes this game really works out nicely.

I ran into four more Young Mole Rats. Poor babies were trying to fight off a Yao Guai and losing badly. I opened fire on the Yao Guai, of course, and managed to damage him fairly quickly. One of the baby mole rats ran over to me and stood right by my feet, facing the Yao Guai and hissing until I managed to kill it. Then he kind of walked forward a little bit and just stood there. It totally seemed like he had run to me for protection after I had attacked the Yao Guai. I went forward toward him to see what he'd do, but he ran off like I had spooked him.

Unfortunately, he ran toward the RobCo factory and the robot selling guy was there....I heard RL-3 opening fire briefly and I think that was the end of the last baby mole rat from that group.



On another note, does MMM affect Outcast Patrol spawns? There seem to be a tremendous number of them in my game and it seems odd. A lot of times I can stand next to one patrol and see another patrol on a different route in the distance.

I haven't noticed this.

Can you give me your save? www.rapidshare.com
This freeze/crash during level-up seems to be more and more annoying

Positive. We will correct this in MMM-FWE patch, for FWE users

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0BzMBsweZwpWdOGE0YzI0OWEtOGQ2Ni00MWRjLTkyMDMtMjFmMDVkYzdmNGVm&hl=en&authkey=CMGyy8gH
It will work, it even don't required MMM.
This patch will disable this trash thing. But this level must be started from the beginning, or I'm not sure if this will work

Delamer, could you put it somewhere else for download? Google is not being kind today (they are experiencing techincal difficulties...)

Hey guys,

Just popping in quickly while on hols, thought I'd check in on the thread and it looks like we have a few bugs to fix.

* Leveling up -- no idea where this is coming from. The only leveling up issues I've heard of are when Perks are modified, but MMM doesn't alter or use any Perks. Would greatly appreciate having a savegame to work from with this (ideally MMM alone, no FWE etc) and it looks like Delamer is already on the ball. If you discover anything Delamer, let me know and by all means feel free to release a temporary patch if you find a fix.

* Crashing in Zeta -- this was reported in the Beta after adding the Crazed Brahmin to the base Brahmin lists (and presumably, spawning one was crashing the chute in Zeta). For the final RC6 I reverted this change, so the vanilla Brahmin list is the same as RC5. So why it's *still* crashing is a mystery. The best solution I can think of is to make a new, completely unattached, Brahmin entry for Zeta and reference that instead of letting it reference the vanilla Brahmin. This would completely isolate that part to just Zeta. Again I can do this when I get back, or Delamer or anyone else is welcome to release a temporary patch plugin.

* Iguanas -- yeah, the feet are loud. I actually reduced their volume by 40% from the sound files, but they're still a too loud. Should be easily fixed when I get back. Tweaking attenuation in the GECK didn't seem to make any difference, so I re-sampled the files in Audacity to reduce their volume, but clearly not enough. Again anyone else is welcome to do the same and upload new sound files. In terms of factions I didn't add them to the NoAttack list because as Sesom said they should have some natural predators. However there's obviously some inter-faction relationships I didn't predict, and some more factions will need to be added to them (or, alternatively, have them completely passive and use NoAttack). And yes, the dropping of a live Iguana I didn't expect! Once picked up, eat or sell them. On the Poison I did originally keep the poison meat, but it didn't make sense being able to poison your baseball bat by rubbing an Iguana on it, so I changed the properties. If people want the poison meat back, I can do that, but it means you can't eat them and Iguana bits (as picked up on a dead Iguana, not the vanilla bits) would need to be changed as well.

* Ramblers -- For the Ramblers, will check their sound profile when I get back, this obviously isn't an urgent issue (think of them as Ninja Ramblers!)

Thanks for the feedback, be back in a few weeks, but keep the reports coming and again anyone is welcome to upload patch plugins to fix some issues until I return.

Mart

With the Beta version I had problems with leveling up and not until Level 8 or 9, which I confirmed was a problem with MMM by doing the same thing kind of check. I am now at Level 9 with a new character and the new release and haven't had any problems with leveling up yet (my fingers are crossed).

Also, I have had one hostile Outcast Patrol. But it's the only Outcast Patrol I've encountered so far in this playthrough so I don't know yet if they are all going to be hostile or not.

Now google OK.
I will upload this fix on my page on Nexus, but it will take some time.
And I'm still need save with crash during level-up for preparations
Also- if someone have save in Zeta before the crash near trash device, it will be very kind

Many thanks, BW

Well trying to stay on top of all updates I cannot download the zeta fix - keep getting message from google page that it is unable to scan for viruses.

and it says it is only 1KB - is that right?

Same result using both firefox and IE.

I had the same problem yesterday, but it worked fine an hour ago... and yes, it's only 1K :_

Yes, that is right. Plugin contain three disabled records only
http://rapidshare.com/files/416796620/MMM-Zeta_crash_fix.rar.html