Mass Effect? Should I get it? : Othor Games

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:38 am

I guess I must have been living under a rock. I never herd of this game. I am looking at it now, and is it really as good as they say? Should I get the 2nd one instead of the 1st one? Was loooking at the Gamespot reviews, and it seems the first one is a bit buggy, or clunky with the vehicle combat design. The 2nd one looks more polished and I am surprised they said it's better than the first one. Usually the 1st one is better.

So is this always done in 3rd person view? Is there any 1st peson view?
Is this like Baulders Gate, but in Space and not in isometric view? Same company correct?
So I see in the 1st one you drive a buggy. Is there any space ship combat or fighter combat as well? What about the 2nd version? I didn't see no buggy driving, is that in there as well?

Is it appropriate for a 9 year old? My son loves playing games that I do. I haven't bought Dragon Age: Origins because of the inapropriateness for a 8 year old (at the time).

I will be getting this for the 360, is there any multiplayer or split screen or what ever you call it where 2 people can play at the same time, and or agaisnt each other?

Is there anything else you can say about it? Just looking for something new and it seems I may actually like this. How I missed it before, I don't know. Maybe I played Oblivion too much that I didn't see anything else.

If I shouldn't get Mass Effect or Mass Effect 2, what else do you recomend then?

Thank you for taking your time to read this.

:facepalm: Just noticed a thread of Mass Effect. Too many Spoilers in there, I had to stop reading it. So can anyone help without any spoilers please.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:36 am

I guess I must have been living under a rock. I never herd of this game. I am looking at it now, and is it really as good as they say?
Its a very good game imo.
Should I get the 2nd one instead of the 1st one?
Only if you want a gears clon mixed with an interactive movie, not a proper rpg imo.
Was loooking at the Gamespot reviews, and it seems the first one is a bit buggy, or clunky with the vehicle combat design. The 2nd one looks more polished and I am surprised they said it's better than the first one. Usually the 1st one is better.
"Streamlined" the first ones combat was more stat based, this is jsut copying gears of war, so its smoother but less rpg more about the player.
So is this always done in 3rd person view? Is there any 1st peson view?
Only aiming down sniper rifles scopes is first person.
Is this like Baulders Gate, but in Space and not in isometric view? Same company correct?
Not isometric, didnt play BG so cant comment.
So I see in the 1st one you drive a buggy. Is there any space ship combat or fighter combat as well?
No just Mako.
What about the 2nd version? I didn't see no buggy driving, is that in there as well?
People had issues with the Mako so they removed veichles completely. Unless you want to but the dlc which gives like 4 missions in veichles, simmilar to the first veichle, just faster, jumps higher and alot weaker.
Is it appropriate for a 9 year old? My son loves playing games that I do. I haven't bought Dragon Age: Origins because of the inapropriateness for a 8 year old (at the time).
six scenes like DAO, you punch a reporter, it has asari lapdances, you execute some people, a guy gets impaled on a spike, so uh not really no. Oh and you cna rtalk a guy in to blowing his brains out, I got an achivement for it. In ME2 its pretty violent too, and lapdancers are back, ME2 has more swearing, and more six.
I will be getting this for the 360, is there any multiplayer or split screen or what ever you call it where 2 people can play at the same time, and or agaisnt each other?
No.
Is there anything else you can say about it? Just looking for something new and it seems I may actually like this. How I missed it before, I don't know. Maybe I played Oblivion too much that I didn't see anything else.
Great atmosphere and OST, and story until 2 ruins it.
If I shouldn't get Mass Effect or Mass Effect 2, what else do you recomend then?
Get ME1, just dont let your kid play. or get it on PC I am sure you could make a mod to filter inappropriate content.
Thank you for taking your time to read this.

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» Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:53 am

Got both. I wouldn't call it appropriate for a 9 year old, but I don't know how mature your 9 year old is. I guess it would be OK as long as you don't care about violence and supervise him.

[edit] There is no vehicle combat in the 2nd one by default, but you do get a cool hovertank in a free DLC. Lair of the Shadow Broker, the latest paid DLC, (which is all around awesome, imo) has:

Spoiler

a shweet chance sequence in a hover car.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:52 am

I guess I must have been living under a rock. I never herd of this game. I am looking at it now, and is it really as good as they say? Should I get the 2nd one instead of the 1st one? Was loooking at the Gamespot reviews, and it seems the first one is a bit buggy, or clunky with the vehicle combat design. The 2nd one looks more polished and I am surprised they said it's better than the first one. Usually the 1st one is better.

So is this always done in 3rd person view? Is there any 1st peson view?
Is this like Baulders Gate, but in Space and not in isometric view? Same company correct?

So I see in the 1st one you drive a buggy. Is there any space ship combat or fighter combat as well? What about the 2nd version? I didn't see no buggy driving, is that in there as well?

There isn't a buggy in the sequel, but I think that's an improvement. In the first game, you mine a few resources on planet surfaces by driving to the symbol on your minimap, hopping out, and clicking on the resource (usually including a minigame to "decrypt" it). I preferred Mass Effect 2's approach of mining by sending probes from orbit. There's no fighter combat.

Is it appropriate for a 9 year old? My son loves playing games that I do. I haven't bought Dragon Age: Origins because of the inapropriateness for a 8 year old (at the time).

It's not appropriate for kids. There's a cutscene at one point of six (in the first game), and though it's tasteful I don't feel it's appropriate for preteens. The sequel also has possible cutscenes but they're even more restrained. Ratslayer above is right about the other "advlt" aspects of the series.

I will be getting this for the 360, is there any multiplayer or split screen or what ever you call it where 2 people can play at the same time, and or agaisnt each other?

Is there anything else you can say about it? Just looking for something new and it seems I may actually like this. How I missed it before, I don't know. Maybe I played Oblivion too much that I didn't see anything else.

I recommend Mass Effect, and its sequel. The sequel is darker than the first but I liked some of the changes they made. The sequel verges on being a shooter compared to the first, but it manages to not be completely different than the first ME. I found the combat challenging in both games. If you played KOTOR, it would probably feel similar. But don't let your kids play the series.

If I shouldn't get Mass Effect or Mass Effect 2, what else do you recomend then?

Thank you for taking your time to read this.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:38 pm

Darn, damn six scenes. Thanks for the quick reply RatSalyer. I have no problem with my son playing Fallout 3 or New Vegas, I was hoping Mass Effect would be more like that. Yeah I was shocked about the DA:O six scenes. My wife would kill me if I got that.

Getting a game and not playing it when the kids are not around is not an option, so sadly it looks like this game will have to wait another 5 years before I buy it.

Again, thank you for the quick reply.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:54 pm

Feh, calling it a "six scene" is really an overstatement. ME1 has the back of a woman and some naked kissing. The only one thats even mildly inappropriate in the 2nd one is a bra-wearing lady straddling you on the floor. Unless you have a very sheltered child he's probably seen worse stuff. All that is also not something you come across unless you try.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:44 am

Darn, damn six scenes. Thanks for the quick reply RatSalyer. I have no problem with my son playing Fallout 3 or New Vegas, I was hoping Mass Effect would be more like that. Yeah I was shocked about the DA:O six scenes. My wife would kill me if I got that.

Getting a game and not playing it when the kids are not around is not an option, so sadly it looks like this game will have to wait another 5 years before I buy it.

Again, thank you for the quick reply.

... Fallout NV is the same if not worse. You realise FNV has hokers, ghoul strippers, several people who arent hokers and want to bed you if you do thier quest "blled me dry and vault girl".
Cook-cook is a rapist, even one quest creeps me out, called "the cayotes" its quite sickening. Drug addiction, extreme violence (unless there is an off button) andhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EarwtJd_jo
And lots more swearing than the ME game.

Feh, calling it a "six scene" is really an overstatement. ME1 has the back of a woman and some naked kissing. The only one thats even mildly inappropriate in the 2nd one is a bra-wearing lady straddling you on the floor. Unless you have a very sheltered child he's probably seen worse stuff. All that is also not something you come across unless you try.

ANd Miranda stripping, and Samaras daughter constantly trying to kill you by sleeping you.
Also some people accidently romance characters just by talking to them.

Just YT the scenes and judge if its innapropriate, Talis isnt an issue imo, just kissing.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:52 pm

Go with Fable 2. You can get Fable 2 + The DLCs for $15 - $20.

There is also Sacred 2.

You should get Street Fighter 4 or Super Street Fighter 4 (not rpg, but a really good game).

Tales of Vesperia is 2 player, I think. It becomes 2 players during battles. (I think closest copies from Gamestop/EB are in Milton & Oakville)

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:41 am

Not isometric, didnt play BG so cant comment.

I'll fill that gap. "Not similar at all".

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:56 pm

Feh, calling it a "six scene" is really an overstatement. ME1 has the back of a woman and some naked kissing. The only one thats even mildly inappropriate in the 2nd one is a bra-wearing lady straddling you on the floor. Unless you have a very sheltered child he's probably seen worse stuff. All that is also not something you come across unless you try.

Indeed, there's more graphic six in James Bond movies and those are fine for 9 year olds as well. I recommend getting both. They both have different strong points, ME2 did some things better and some worse than the original, but they're both really good. And while it's not completely necessary, the story is a lot more awesome if you've played the first, especially since you can continue ME2 from your old savegame.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:00 pm

(edit) Never mind.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:36 pm

... Fallout NV is the same if not worse. You realise FNV has hokers, ghoul strippers, several people who arent hokers and want to bed you if you do thier quest "blled me dry and vault girl".
Cook-cook is a rapist, even one quest creeps me out, called "the cayotes" its quite sickening. Drug addiction, extreme violence (unless there is an off button) andhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EarwtJd_jo

I was about to say, :confused: New Vegas is probably the most "inappropriate" game I've come across.

Just letting you know Davor, if you google search "(insert game here) parents guide" then you will come up with something like http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1540125/parentalguide which tells you all the things in the game you might not want someone to see. I find it very useful.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:09 am

The six scene is very tasteful and mature (as in not childish, you don't see anything), although apparently on the other side of the pond you people are a lot more uptight about six but not violence

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:42 pm

The six scene is ~~very tasteful and mature~~ tamer than what you can see done on prime-time TV.

Fixed it for you.

If you can pick up ME1 and ME2 at a real good discount...do it. It helps give you a deeper appreciation for the story...and whatever might unfold in ME3.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:19 am

The "six" scene isn't really a six scene. Very PG. You'll see more skin on daytime TV.

Both games are great. Second only to Fallout IMO. Maybe the other way around :shrug:

The only exploitive / inappropriate thing is that Kelly "dances" for you (if she lives) in ME2. Really not needed BioWare. :rolleyes:

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:03 pm

I am looking at it now, and is it really as good as they say?

Yes

Should I get the 2nd one instead of the 1st one?

get both. Otherwise, get the first, play as much as you can out of it, then import those characters into ME2. Trust me, you'll want to. The default characters in ME2 are a mega letdown.

Was loooking at the Gamespot reviews, and it seems the first one is a bit buggy, or clunky with the vehicle combat design.

On harder difficulties, enemies tend to take forever to kill, and the vehicle (Mako) tends to have weird physics going on. Personally, I hated vehicle combat.

The 2nd one looks more polished and I am surprised they said it's better than the first one. Usually the 1st one is better.

It's a lot more polished, streamlined, and I find the voice acting and dialog choices to be superior. However, the amount of skills are reduced to 4 skills for you teammates, and I think ~8 for Shepard. Also, weapon specializing skills have been removed, but I find that a non-issue, you are a career soldier, and somehow having you not being able to shoot the broad side of a barn is a little off...

So is this always done in 3rd person view? Is there any 1st peson view?
Is this like Baulders Gate, but in Space and not in isometric view? Same company correct?

Only 3rd person, no isometric. Think Gears of War.

So I see in the 1st one you drive a buggy. Is there any space ship combat or fighter combat as well? What about the 2nd version? I didn't see no buggy driving, is that in there as well?

Yes you drive a car in the first one, but it's a little weird in the environments and driving. BW removed it in the second game, but added a hover car if you buy the DLC (don't buy the DLC). No spaceship combat.

Is it appropriate for a 9 year old? My son loves playing games that I do. I haven't bought Dragon Age: Origins because of the inapropriateness for a 8 year old (at the time).

Considering how my parents didn't even want me to see PG-13 movies when I was 9 and didn't want me to play games with blood, I'd suggest your child shouldn't play it. There's blood splatter here and there (and different colored, depending on the speices), civilians are seen gunned down at points, and romance is embarrassingly bad (for both games). When he's ~6-7 years older, then it would be more appropriate for him. I will note that ME2 is a darker game than the first.

I will be getting this for the 360, is there any multiplayer or split screen or what ever you call it where 2 people can play at the same time, and or agaisnt each other?

purely a single player game

Is there anything else you can say about it?

Both are really great games, despite what some people may say, namely about ME2. Both have lots of RPG elements in them, dialog is pretty good (gets better in the second game, imo), and I've made roughly 5-6 characters in each of those games, with multiple playthroughs.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:59 am

I will add my opinion to the thread. Having played through both games I must say I enjoyed the first one much more. Played through it 4 times (3 in a row with different difficulties) and am currently on my fifth playthough on my new computer. The games are both very well made though, and bringing your character from the first one to the second one is worth the effort in itself.

My recommendation: Play the first one and bring your character into the second game with at least one playthrough. Totally worth it.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:11 am

Definitely get the first one if your into roleplaying games. It is one of the only titles to bled shooting and roleplaying nicely since the original Deus Ex released. I can also recommend the sequel but not for the same reasons. While the first Mass Effect was a great rpg, the second is a great 3rd person shooter. While the sequel was sort of a let down for me, the game is a great continuation of the story with more in depth characters, more diverse and realized locations to explore, and again it handles being a 3rd person shooter pretty well. Monotonous resource mining aside, the game was really good, just not the sequel I was hoping for. Hope that helps. I really hope that they bring back the mako in favor of resource mining for the 3rd game. It really made the universe feel bigger, even if many of the locations were rather cut and paste.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:01 am

How is ME2 less of a RPG than ME1? Sure, skills were reduced, and a lack of an inventory, but does that REALLY define a RPG? We're still roleplaying commander Shepard, making decisions that affect the game and future game.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:14 am

We're still roleplaying commander Shepard, making decisions that affect the game and future game.

Name three. Feel free to draw from both.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:14 am

To charge in without really helping anyone and get everyone killed
deny a few members access to your team
Likely some decisions will affect ME3, but that's only speculation, such as the end choice, the quarian choice, the geth and legion choice, maybe the omega relay choice, and the genophage choice to name a few off the top of my head

Now to replay the entire game to refresh my memory.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:44 am

I was about to say, :confused: New Vegas is probably the most "inappropriate" game I've come across.

Just letting you know Davor, if you google search "(insert game here) parents guide" then you will come up with something like http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1540125/parentalguide which tells you all the things in the game you might not want someone to see. I find it very useful.

I didn't know about this Lucky38. Thanks alot. This was very helpfull.

Thank you so much everyone, you have been a great help. When I left, I didn't get ME, but after seeing the reviews, I might get it. I will let my son play it, but this will be one of the games, he has to play with me, when I am around and not take it in his room to play it.

The stuff in New Vegas is so over his head, he doesn't even understand what it is, ignorance is bliss here, so I feel safe with New Vegas and Fallout 3 with him. So far I haven't seen anything that I would be worried about in Fallout 3 or NV. The great thing is, I was able to teach him, not to say the words he hear. Now when ever he is online playing and anyone says these words, he either leaves the game and joins another or mutes the game not to hear anything. So it was a great learning lesson. I know they say so much worse at school, and it's hard to control what they learn at school. So now he knows bad words, ok to hear on TV or games, but never repeat them. It works because he knows I will take his xbox out of his room so fast if he did it.

I feel better now that they don't show anything at least in ME 1, that will just be like what is on TV then. I don't want him seeing any stardaling or anything like that though. So I will get it if I can find a great price and he can only play when I am around.

Just so I know, when it does happen, is it optional? Can it be prevented, or is it scritped in? If it's not scripted in, how can I stop it, so I can tell my son DON'T DO THIS OR ELSE YOU CAN'T PLAY.

Agian, thank you to all very much.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:28 pm

I didn't know about this Lucky38. Thanks alot. This was very helpfull.

Thank you so much everyone, you have been a great help. When I left, I didn't get ME, but after seeing the reviews, I might get it. I will let my son play it, but this will be one of the games, he has to play with me, when I am around and not take it in his room to play it.

The stuff in New Vegas is so over his head, he doesn't even understand what it is, ignorance is bliss here, so I feel safe with New Vegas and Fallout 3 with him. So far I haven't seen anything that I would be worried about in Fallout 3 or NV. The great thing is, I was able to teach him, not to say the words he hear. Now when ever he is online playing and anyone says these words, he either leaves the game and joins another or mutes the game not to hear anything. So it was a great learning lesson. I know they say so much worse at school, and it's hard to control what they learn at school. So now he knows bad words, ok to hear on TV or games, but never repeat them. It works because he knows I will take his xbox out of his room so fast if he did it.

I feel better now that they don't show anything at least in ME 1, that will just be like what is on TV then. I don't want him seeing any stardaling or anything like that though. So I will get it if I can find a great price and he can only play when I am around.

Just so I know, when it does happen, is it optional? Can it be prevented, or is it scritped in? If it's not scripted in, how can I stop it, so I can tell my son DON'T DO THIS OR ELSE YOU CAN'T PLAY.

Agian, thank you to all very much.

Its only if you ramnce them.
Here are the scenes from 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwBevwZ4Z2Q
Well actually not much point, its basically the exact same, just a reskin.

Oh there is one thing with an asari consort that he may accidently pick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bibTpvXq6E

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:29 pm

DEFINITELY recommend the 1st one over the 2nd one.
I've played the 2nd one for about an hr total and played the 1st one 3 times through. for some reason i cant get into the 2nd one.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:52 am

well for one thing I would think it is inappropriate for children under 17... because that's what the rating says.... they don't just rate it for no good reason or just to tick everybody off, but if you really want a good game then get the second one. to me the first one was really slow and kind of boring, but the second one blew me away with its graphics and action. I was definitely wowed.