BP may have doomed us all...

Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:26 pm

There are other indirect methods, such as oxygen isotopes. Can extrapolate the Milankovitch cycles backwards, too, and build global climate models based on landmass distribution. :grad:


...or, they can do what these guys clearly did and just make [censored] up.

Saves alot of time.
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barbara belmonte
 
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:14 am

Lots of references to build a theory but no credible sources that this is indeed what is happening. I'll need a little more than "scientists" and "experts" to convince me. Which scientists? Which experts? This has unsubstantiated doomsaying written all over it.
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Jessica Thomson
 
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:19 pm

That's probably the most absurd thing I've read in a long, long time.
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Angus Poole
 
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:16 am

So, this is how it ends? Humanity, I am disappoint.
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Sarah Evason
 
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:40 pm

Wait wait wait, let's count these:

Y2K, 2012, Fart Methane Bubble.

That's three apocalypse theories within the pas eleven years. Each one more ridiculous than the last.
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:44 pm

I played Fallout 3 and the Stalker series so if it ends up like that... I'll do fine.
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Natalie J Webster
 
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:20 pm

Obviously the end of the world is a popular topic to help build ad revenue. I'm tempted to come up with my own absurd theory just to see how many clicks I can get.
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:04 pm

Obviously the end of the world is a popular topic to help build ad revenue. I'm tempted to come up with my own absurd theory just to see how many clicks I can get.

I've got one: Crab invasion.
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:48 pm

Obviously the end of the world is a popular topic to help build ad revenue.

Wonder what odds the bookies are giving, knowing my luck I would win and wouldn't be able to get paid out ;)
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:46 pm

Don't worry, people are like cockroaches. We'll be one of the last ones to go.
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:14 pm

Well, remains to be seen if we end up living interesting times or not. Me, I'm not worried one bit, if it really is beyond any and all control, there's no sense in fretting over it.

The only time I'll believe that the world is ending is when it's something awesome. Perhaps a zombie outbreak? :laugh:


I'm still opting for planetary destruction via the World Devourer, myself. ^_^
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:44 pm

I just read today's local news and BP is trying to sell part of it's interest in Prudhoe Bay oil:
http://newsminer.com/view/full_story/8725033/article-Report--BP-in-talks-to-sell-share-of-Prudhoe-Bay?instance=home_news_window_left_top_1

Now that could be doomsday for Alaska. :unsure:
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:09 am

I can just see it now.

Bethesda press release:

"Due to the imminent mass extinction event, we here at Bethesda would like to announce that we never did actually do any work on a new Elder Scrolls game. Trololololololol svckers! Yeah, that's right! Oh, and you know the GOTY vampirism cure bug? It was DELIBERATE. Have a nice day."
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:24 pm

I can just see it now.

Bethesda press release:

"Due to the imminent mass extinction event, we here at Bethesda would like to announce that we never did actually do any work on a new Elder Scrolls game. Trololololololol svckers! Yeah, that's right! Oh, and you know the GOTY vampirism cure bug? It was DELIBERATE. Have a nice day."

Grand Job Jinxing us all. now you've even taken away my hope of getting TES5 the day the world ends...
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:22 am

This story popped up anywhere else yet?

If not, it's obviously a bunch of crap. I think if there was a possibility the world might end, the news would be reporting on it.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:38 am

Don't worry, people are like cockroaches. We'll be one of the last ones to go.


Don't count on it. The species that are at the top of the food chain are typically the ones that suffer the most.
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:44 pm

I think if there was a possibility the world might end, the news would be reporting on it.

Oh but you're forgetting the media blackout. Can't have a panic, now.

:lmao:
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:35 pm

There are other indirect methods, such as oxygen isotopes. Can extrapolate the Milankovitch cycles backwards, too, and build global climate models based on landmass distribution. :grad:


While that's true, there's no proof that what the article describes actually happened. I found this on the Wiki regarding the Permian extinction event, which is what the article refers to.

However, only one sufficiently powerful cause has been proposed for the global 10 ‰ reduction in the 13C/12C ratio: the release of methane from methane clathrates;[7] and carbon-cycle models confirm that it would have been sufficient to produce the observed reduction.[95][98] Methane clathrates, also known as methane hydrates, consist of methane molecules trapped in cages of water molecules. The methane is produced by methanogens (microscopic single-celled organisms) and has a 13C/12C ratio about 60 ‰ below normal (δ13C -60 ‰). At the right combination of pressure and temperature it gets trapped in clathrates fairly close to the surface of permafrost and in much larger quantities at continental margins (continental shelves and the deeper seabed close to them). Oceanic methane hydrates are usually found buried in sediments where the seawater is at least 300 meters (984 ft) deep. They can be found up to about 2,000 meters (6,562 ft) below the sea floor, but usually only about 1,100 meters (3,609 ft) below the sea floor.[99]

The area covered by lava from the Siberian Traps eruptions is about twice as large as was originally thought, and most of the additional area was shallow sea at the time. It is very likely that the seabed contained methane hydrate deposits and that the lava caused the deposits to dissociate, releasing vast quantities of methane.[100]

One would expect a vast release of methane to cause significant global warming, since methane is a very powerful greenhouse gas. A "methane burp" could have released 10,000 billion tons of carbon dioxide equivalent - twice as much as in all the fossil fuels on Earth.[36] There is strong evidence that global temperatures increased by about 6 °C (10.8 °F) near the equator and therefore by more at higher latitudes: a sharp decrease in oxygen isotope ratios (18O/16O);[101] the extinction of Glossopteris flora (Glossopteris and plants which grew in the same areas), which needed a cold climate, and its replacement by floras typical of lower paleolatitudes.[10][102]

However, the pattern of isotope shifts expected to result from a massive release of methane do not match the patterns seen throughout the early Triassic. Not only would a methane cause require the release of five times as much methane as postulated for the PETM,[11] but it would also have to be re-buried at an unrealistically high rate to account for the rapid increases in the 13C/12C ratio (episodes of high positive δ13C) throughout the early Triassic, before being released again several times.[11]


He doesn't even have his geology right. There's no underground bubble of Methane waiting to explode, it's stored on the ocean floor trapped by temperature and pressure into a formation called a clathrate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane_clathrate

The methane will only get released by a sudden rise in temperature in the levels where these are deposited, which is not going to be an issue with the BP problem.
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:44 pm

Tea.
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Maria Leon
 
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:26 pm

The methane will only get released by a sudden rise in temperature in the levels where these are deposited, which is not going to be an issue with the BP problem.


Well, very hot oil is rushing through the area..... :shrug:
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:13 am

Tea.

This.

Or coffee.
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:20 pm

Well, very hot oil is rushing through the area..... :shrug:


That's a very minor localized event, not nearly enough to trigger any sort of significant rise in temperature. You would need to have some catastrophic event in order for that to happen, like a massive volcanic eruption in the area. At least for the kind of methane discharge the article is referring to.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:00 am

I should preface by saying that yes, this probably won't happen.
But there is a very recent very similar event that shows how dangerous a sudden, huge release of gas can be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Nyos

A pocket of magma lies beneath the lake and leaks carbon dioxide (CO2) into the water, changing it into carbonic acid. Nyos is one of only three known lakes to be saturated with carbon dioxide in this way, the others being Lake Monoun, 100 km (62 mi) away SSE, and Lake Kivu in Rwanda. On August 21, 1986, possibly triggered by a landslide, Lake Nyos suddenly emitted a large cloud of CO2, which suffocated 1,700 people and 3,500 livestock in nearby villages.

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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:48 pm

This.

Or coffee.

Or Alcohol.
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Shelby McDonald
 
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:56 pm

Or Alcohol.

Yes more beer the better.
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