BP may have doomed us all...

Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:38 pm

I should preface by saying that yes, this probably won't happen.
But there is a very recent very similar event that shows how dangerous a sudden, huge release of gas can be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Nyos

if the dam wall ever gives, it'll flood all the way down to Bamenda..
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:30 am

I've heard of this. The problem is that the mud cores are the only source of geological data that could affirm/disprove this fear, and such is proprietary data of the oil company(ies) that hold them. So, there's no way to do independent anolysis of what's down there. There's also no sonogram data of the Gulf sea floor, so we can't know if there is a bulge, or how much it has changed.

Something has to go boom in 2012. :P
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:43 pm

Andy, stop frightening me. I am in Bamenda soon. Travel to Douala, then Limbe, Bamenda and Yaounde...

More seriously, guys, don't panic about methan hydrate, they are still a lot in the sea floor, Belanos is totally right, this is a local events. Actually, when drilling a well in deep offshore, we are often suffering problem of sea bottom instability because of methan hydrates. In the case of BP, trust me, the hydrates have gone for a long time.

Talking about the eruption, you are 'lucky' in the GoM not to have H2S, hydrogen sulphide. I worked in Congo, on Tchibouela, long ago. It's a pretty nasty place, with a lot of H2S. We were forced to move sometimes with tear gas mask and oxygen bottles. We had drill test on H2S every 3 days. The unit to measure low concentration gas is ppm, part per million. Basically 10 000 ppm = 1%
With H2S, between 1-20 ppm, it's a bad smell, it burns eyes, throat and nose.
From 20 to 50 ppm, you get headache, gradually lose the sense of smell, vomit, nausea, dizziness.
50-100 ppm: serious cough, nausea, lose balance etc...
100-200 ppm : convulsions, coma after 2-5 min
Above 200 ppm: coma and death by pulmonary oedema.

In Congo, we had concentrations on the shale shakers around 80-120 ppm....
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:52 pm

We're all going to die! :ahhh:
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:31 am

Man this thread is pointless
this will not happen if you read the previous posts
the author seriously wants a mass panic for fun
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:13 pm

Andy, stop frightening me. I am in Bamenda soon. Travel to Douala, then Limbe, Bamenda and Yaounde...
Have a good time, buddy :goodjob:


the author seriously wants a mass panic for fun

Apocalyptic death by smelly fart.. sounds more like fun mass panic than mass panic for fun.


I′ll cook up some diabolical chilli, and see whether I can neutralize the stink.



I might need the entire population to help... gonna be tricky.. not to mention the logistics nightmare.. but we can do it!!
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:12 pm

I'm sorry my world ending has already been taken up by the LHC, 2012, Solar Flares and Swine Flu, this'll have to wait.
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:42 pm

cmon i want to invent nanomachines in the future so i can eat the earth then spread across space!
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:17 pm

BP, bringing oil to American shores since 1998

LOL
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:49 pm

BP, bringing oil to American shores since 1998

LOL

If we're going down that route:

''She sells sea shells by the sea shore''

She probably qualifies for a claim against BP.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:14 am

It's bunk. Belanos points out that this guy is just ranting and raving with no real geological evidence.
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:26 am

Death by farts.... Not too far. H2S and methan are component of fart.
One ex-colleague was sacked from an oil rig offshore of Spain because he wanted to test the H2S sensors with fart. Problem, he forgot to tell this to the company man and he did not disconnect the alarm. Result: a 25 ppm alarm blowing, preparing the evac of the rig etc....
I did the same but disconnected the alarm before. So I can tell you that a fart is not up to the explosion level for methan. A fart is NOT explosive. Myth busted...

This thread is turning to Jerry Springer (I just discovered Jerry Springer 1 month ago, so don't worry, I will keep talking about it. It was a shock and it's still.)
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:19 am

Yeah, I wouldn't worry.

Also, I could have sworn the methane die off all 250 million years ago made sense when I heard about it. :(

What else could drop world wide temperatures, freeze the oceans, and kill off 90% of all life? I didn't go back in time and sneeze powerfully. :)
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:43 pm

But you're on the internet! :facepalm:


Perfectly possible to miss news like that. Very easy to be frank
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:16 pm

I did the same but disconnected the alarm before. So I can tell you that a fart is not up to the explosion level for methan. A fart is NOT explosive. Myth busted...
Not explosive?! But.. but.. but... I've seen ignited farts -other peoples, not my own. I'm not crazy...

This thread is turning to Jerry Springer (I just discovered Jerry Springer 1 month ago, so don't worry, I will keep talking about it. It was a shock and it's still.)
And you have sooo much wonderfully comical television waiting for you.

Him -we'll call him Bubba.
"Jerry, I'd like you to meet my wife and sister" and there's only one other woman on stage

then she says:
"Jerry, this dumb bastard done slept wit mah daughter!!"

him again:
"well, you went and put on five hundred pounds of grade-A lard!! I gotta butter yer hips to git you through the dang door!! Ya barely fit in the trailer as it is!"

:rofl:
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:49 am

Why haven't these morons been stoned to death yet? I don't believe the article but BP is still a tacklebox of tard.
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:18 pm

Him -we'll call him Bubba.
"Jerry, I'd like you to meet my wife and sister" and there's only one other woman on stage

then she says:
"Jerry, this dumb bastard done slept wit mah daughter!!"

him again:
"well, you went and put on five hundred pounds of grade-A lard!! I gotta butter yer hips to git you through the dang door!! Ya barely fit in the trailer as it is!"

:rofl:


I wish I knew if it was staged or not
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:34 pm

I wish I knew if it was staged or not

not really...

anyway...BP...yeah this article probably isnt true, dont believe it till we all die of methane explosions.
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:32 pm

I wish I knew if it was staged or not


Might be? But some parts of the US that I've never visited since (Nebraska, South Dakota, Tennessee).... well, let's just say Jerry Springer isn't that far fetched with it's guests. :facepalm:
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:48 am

Yeah, I wouldn't worry.

Also, I could have sworn the methane die off all 250 million years ago made sense when I heard about it. :(

What else could drop world wide temperatures, freeze the oceans, and kill off 90% of all life? I didn't go back in time and sneeze powerfully. :)


According to those Wiki articles, the methane release would have been the byproduct of some other cataclysmic event, not just some spontaneous eruption. The sea floor temperatures would need to rise enough in order to release the methane from the clathrate deposits where it's being stored. While it may have been a contributing factor in the Permian extinction, it was hardly the cause. Some other major event had to have caused the increase in ocean temperatures in the first place.
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:54 pm

Debunked.

In this article, called "Doomsday: How BP Gulf disaster may have triggered a 'world-killing' event," a guy named Terrence Aym takes some information he got from a "Mega Disasters" TV special on undersea methane bubbles and mixes it with comments about how there are "giant rifts" beneath the sea and an "information blackout." He proposes that a "twenty mile methane bubble" dislodged by the BP oil disaster will erupt from the ocean floor, causing tidal waves and giant explosions. The sad part about all this is that news organizations and blogs took the story seriously.

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During our recent cruise to the Gulf we observed significantly elevated levels of methane at water depth greater than 2500 feet, in the vicinity of the Deepwater Horizon spill site. While the total quantity of methane and other hydrocarbons is enough to cause problems with the regional ecosystem, there is no plausible scenario by which this event alone will cause global-scale extinctions.

http://io9.com/5585294/methane-bubble-doomsday-story-debunked
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:42 pm

Debunked.


http://io9.com/5585294/methane-bubble-doomsday-story-debunked


Awwww...we didn't even get a movie out of it :( I was planning to pre-order my blu-ray copy of "When oil-drillers break-wind"
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:28 am

Have a good time, buddy :goodjob:



Apocalyptic death by smelly fart.. sounds more like fun mass panic than mass panic for fun.


I′ll cook up some diabolical chilli, and see whether I can neutralize the stink.



I might need the entire population to help... gonna be tricky.. not to mention the logistics nightmare.. but we can do it!!

Ocean funk + Andy funk =/= Saftey

What we need is one big ass bottle of Lysol. Life demands Lysol. Thats a fact.
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Post » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:24 pm

There any spots left in the drug trip vault?
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Post » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:45 am

Alright, this was brought up in Werewolf enough times to get me in the mood to voice my opinion.

You're going after the company by boycotting it, which just makes the rich's wealth stagnate - in other words, no big deal for the big wigs - and costing the people at the bottom their jobs, which they may need. So basically, for trying to do the right thing, you're doing it all wrong.


You may ask: What other way is there to get back at them? I'd recommend looking up how their business works - very much like a corporation - and what the word 'sue' means. Then imagine suing, then firing the chairman. That might leave a bit more of a lasting impression in the business world than...Say, them not getting money from some people.
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