I think its cheesy and i dont want/need that option

that would paint the dragons as a kind of beast like werewolves which is not the case since they can speak our language, have their own written language and some even sell their "services" for money as mercenaries, they're just as intelligent, maybe even more so than the 10 playable races.

That would be awesome, but I don't see it happening.

True, but look at it this way..our character hasn't been a dragon all their life like the others. It would be an alien, assault on their senses and physical being. The dragon part of us feels that it is right, but struggles with the mortal portion of our being fighting it. The increase in size, the freedom of flying, and the raw power would be intoxicating. Unless we discipline our usage of it and become adjusted to it over time, it can overtake us.

i/we have to learn more if that is case for dragonborn or not.
in my view, the dragons and the dragonborn only differ in one thing, the body. there wouldn't be a dragon/human/mer/beast seperation on the soul itself.

Nah, we become http://www.gamerswallpapers.com/user-content/uploads/wall/o/2/TES-V-Skyrim-Shrine-Of-Talos-Widescreen-Wallpaper-GamersWallpapers.com-.jpg

good points

LMAO :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

i want turning into a dragon for the final battle to be OPTIONAL! as in, you can fight on even terms by turning into a dragon, or just stand there waving your arms and shouting like a real hero!!!

It's really interesting if you ever see how Tyreal fights. It's entirely possible that some of the enemies in the game who "hover" might have a similar combat system.

I've started the similar topic some time ago and got mainly negative response. It was even confirmed by the poll that some people are ridiculously reluctant to any innovations.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1202501-becoming-dragon-yourself/page__p__17921147#entry17921147
Here is the poll and the OP has my thoughts of this possible feature.

It's not that at all. They just think it would be a direction that would not mesh with the tone of Elder scrolls. Taking it at face value, you turn into a massive beast that roars fire and flies around destroying things. Taken with both the context of the game and the context clues we can take from Todd, it seems to be something deeply intertwined with the story. Believe me, I can see why there's hesitation, but don't think that this won't happen because of limitations. There just needs to be a good head around designing all of that.

Also, the main argument there is that being a dragon around the actual world of Skyrim would undermine the world. It would, and that's my argument that we will only do it for a special area of the game.

I agree, it should be like the final shodown with Alduin - as the culmination of reunion between Dragonborn and it's... well, looks like Alduin is our ancestor for some extent?

I say we should be able to extract vital elements from the dragons we slay, and then combine them to allow us to change into a variety of dragon forms to wreak havoc on our draconic enemies!

... oh, wait, that's Breath of Fire III. My bad.

I highly doubt it, since you can continue playing after the main quest, which would be difficult as a dragon, even if it's not permanent and you just get an ability that temporarily transforms you into a dragon, it would seem that this could very easily unbalance gameplay, And seems to conflict with the whole "We don't want to include levitation because it prevents some great design choices." thing, seeing as dragons can fly. Most likely, the reason Bethesda doesn't want to talk about the main quest because they want it to be a surprise is for the same reason one usually does not want to spoil a story before people experience it, because usuaully stories are more satisfying when you experience them without already knowing what's going to happen, as you want to see what will happen next so you'll keep following it to find out, and if he story involves some twists, it kind of defeats their purpose if you know what they're going to be before even experiencing them, as then you won't be surprised when they happen, and there could be a number of reasons why Bethesda might not want to let us know if werewolves or any other form of shapesifting is included, and not necessarily because it would spoil the main story. After all, Bethesda hasn't given us a clear picture of what Argonians look like either, and I doubt that's a plot twist.



I actually love innovations, so long as they positively impact the game, but I'm not sure if I'd enjoy becoming a dragon in this game, I'm not necessarily saying playing as a dragon could never work in a game, but it kind of requires that the game be built around it, just suddenly becoming a dragon in Skyrim could easily turn out to be either poorly implemented, horribly unbalanced, or both.

BoFIII was a great game.

OT: perhaps collecting vital organs of unique dragons would allow you to make 1 Dragon Transformation Potion for the final battle, if you wanted to use the Easy Button that is. I would personally prefer just to shout insults in Dragonic at Alduin :swear:

Highly unlikely.

Well I hope that devs are really eager to polish every gameplay feature.

And finally I can hardly believe that an epic final battle in the sky well above Skyrim, for example, will do any harm. This ability probably doesn't need to be permanent. And this encounter can be expereinced VERY high above so it wouldn't impact any further gameplay. BTW it's not too hard to imagine a separate location like "sky_of_skyrim_interior" which is visited only in the end of MQ.

Alduin is defeated, some kind of little movie, Dragonborn is in the city or whatever he left before the transformation... everybody dances, happy end and free play.

Dragon shout from a mortal "insect" is the insult for any snobbish dragon itself

Not if the dovahkiin gains the ability to become a shapeshifter. As a shapeshifter, he/she can revert back to human form. I believe that somewhere in TES lore about dragons, there were rumors/beliefs that dragons had the ability to shapeshift to disguise their true forms. If the rumors are true, than it's possible that the dovahkiin could probably accomplish this feat.

No Dovahkin. You ARE the Dragons.

And then Dovahkiin was a Dragon.

Bethesda would never ruin a gameplay like that, think this scenario:
You complete the main quest but still want to continue playing but its hardd to roleplay a monk as a dragon :bonk:

I doubt that we will transform into a dragon. (Barring the possibility that it is somehow involved in the final boss fight.)

Though if we could, it would be a lot of fun to just fly around Skyrim.

You make it seem silly, but you look at it and the option is entirely valid.

I would take this opportunity to point out that in the first trailer, as the Dragonborn was being chased, the camera was being given a first-person view of what I assume is the dragon who is chasing him. If their claim that the video was made entirely on the Xbox was true, the it's highly possible they just used the player-turned-into-dragon to play the part of the dragon in the video. Which sorta-kinda confirms in my own mind that at some point (at least once) the Dovakhiin will turn into a dragon and the player will be able to control it.

it does indeed say that in the lore, but the lore refers mostly to the dragons of Akavir. While it is believed the surviving Akavir Dragons fled to Tamriel, the dragons in Skyrim are a Nordic off-shoot, possessing the Shout abilities that are similar to Nordic Tongues, who already use Shouts, although not in the Dragon Language. It is possible that Nordic Dragons possess a Shapeshifting Shout, but unlikely.