I would of put a poll, but i figured people would vote before reading the OP.

Lets think, in real life if this whole storyline was to go down, would you be Security, or Resistance, but don't choose so fast. I said realistically, so would you rather be on the Security living a bit cooshier lifestyle than the Resistance, but knowing deep in your heart you are only letting others live in poverty, but, if you were to break off from the security to help the resistance, you would have to sacrifice your families good life for a trash one, would you put your family through that? Or vice Versa, You are a resistance fighter, you have enough resources to live, but you want more, you also want to leave the ark, but you know that if you leave, you may doom your family, because there may actually be no mainland, and you and your family will starve, floating through the ocean. On the other hand, you also know that the security may only be doing what they do to protect their families, are you just going to kill them, is that fair?

Wrap your mind round that. Yeah.

ROAR!

If I had the option I wouldn't choose either side. I would adopt the actual Voice archetype from the Resistance and put its real use. If I had the option, I would solve everything, not just destroy [censored] to try and escape or try to control the unruly Guests.

Do i have to have a family?

Hmmm i enjoy your noble choice, but no one will listen, the Founders are or aren't going to have it their way, so its either Work for the Founders, or Fight the founders.

Well it's a good thing this is a game cause none of what you said make one bit of difference. buggar hey :wink_smile:

This is post-apocalypse, at least for modern society, you are now living off of scraps. Trust me, coziness will be low on your list of priorities. All of us, sitting in front of a computer-screen, can't begin to fathom this type of society; our materialistic viewpoint simply won't allow it. I will play as Security, but to be frank I'd rather be Resistance I reckon, since the Security is slowly getting cornered by the masses and will most likely be exterminated in the future.

Resistance. I rather fight for a possible future rather then trying to preserve an illusion of balance, while knowing that I am oppressing. Also the Security should be coming from well to do families, so it is very likely they are a little stuck up; the Resistance on the other hand while probably more... crude (basic idea not saying I think this is an ultimatum for the factions), but they will probably be more closely knit despite their large numbers.

Alright well in that case I could legitimately say I would fight for the Resistance. No pampered rich mutha [censored]as gonna let me and my family die.

The real question is, do we have a choice?
Was there a selection process to be put onto the Ark? If so, would you fit it?
If not you'd be either be dead or, if you're lucky, a refugee, thus becoming, but not directly, apart of the resistance.

P.S: BaconPrince, i LOVE your last signature line.

First off a note: The game releases tommorrow. As such I have not played it and all I'm going off is a general sense of what the sides are fighting for through the realeased materials. The canon in game may drastically change this. Oh well.

Now that that's done, I think your specific interpretation of the Security is somewhat biased in favor of the Resistance's outlook on them. From the guests point of view, the Security are just hired guns operating to force the Founders' views and rulings onto all citizens of the Ark. From their perspective this makes some sense: they're living in poverty and it seems like they aren't getting their fair share of the resources. But it's important to remember that this game was specifically designed to have no "good guy/bad guy" dynamic. Both sides have legitimate reasons for fighting and both whole-heartedly think they're right.

Take into consideration that the Founders made and intially solely populated the Ark. It was their home, paid for and constructed to house them. The guests are in their view exactly like what their name implies: houseguests who happened by sheer luck to stumble onto this massive floating utopia out in the middle of nowhere. Frankly, the fact that the Founders allowed them to stay and live on their home is testament to their generosity: this is a place that swelled from 5000 to ten times that before the game's setting. Naturally resources are stretched to their limit, with each and every new guest causing more problems in the overall sustainibilty of the island. Would the Founders want to try and solve this, perhaps by coming up with new ways to house this hugely inflated population in a sustainable manner? I'm inclined to say yes. Maybe there's a REASON the random refugees aren't getting as much food/water as the people who might have some know-how in how to fix the problem. Despite what they say, they arent entirely starving. If they want to start trying to help, why not move towards inventing some solution ideas themselves instead of firebombing Security squads and stealing supply reserves? Food for thought.

Anyways, like I said, both sides were intricately designed to come of as legitimate "good guys." The only reason I went into detail regarding the Security's reasons was because I think of the two they're the easiest to misinterpret as just being powerhungry or typical "I hate you darn terrorists" cops. What would I be in real life? No idea, guess it depends on if I was born on the ark or came across it on a makeshift raft...

EDIT: Spelling

well,from a philosophical stand point, we allow people to live in absolute, desolate poverty every day. not just in some far off place we see in a guilt-ridden commercial on tv, but in your city, possibly your very neighborhood.

as the owner of a business I've had to choose between taking care of my family, and those of my employees through these rough economic times. I've turned down job applicants knowing that they are at the end of their rope, but I had to, because adding another job where there isn't the means or need would adversely affect everyone else.

these aren't fun decisions to make, and they aren't easy. it's easy to attempt to portray the security as uncaring or short sighted or even evil. however i hope that the game is written well enough to portray them as more than that, and the resistance as more than eager migrant workers being wronged by the man.

personally I don't feel that the choice between the two sides would be all that easy to make, while anyone co uld choose to be a part of one of the resistences many factions, I am thinking the security is slightly more restrictive in their application process.

Realistically, it depends on more factors than we know. Assuming there's a semblance of order, and reason to believe the Security have good reason behind their actions, and assuming that for some reason I HAVE to join either Resistance or Security, I'd PROBABLY go Security. There are factors that may influence that to the contrary though. And it depends on whether they'd allow a vampire madman like me to join in the first place... I might not be given that option.

If I had a choice it would be security. Not all of the security is from the founders. I do believe some of the guests have been allowed to join the security and are paid with an extra ration of water. I personally believe that the resistance are doing the wrong thing and would wish to be on the front line trying to stop them from bringing about the destruction of possibly the only home left on Earth. People should be thankful for what they got and the life they still have instead of being greedy like most people are anyways.

I think If I were able to choose, I'd pick security, solely to support my family. I have a daughter and if Brink's plot were actually happening I'd hate myself for making her have to live the life of the child of a resistance fighter.

P.S. - I'm choosing Resistance in-game. :tops:

i'd be Security but what ever rations or money i'd have to spare from my family or myself i'd give to resistance family's and offer as much housing space as possible. i'd certainly not be living cushy while people right next door are starving to death.

IRL the simple fact that you have a computer and can care about videogames would place you on the living a nicer life at the expense of others in poverty.

30 years in the future, i'd sell alot of my things to help the needy in such a crisis, i'm a naturally good person

The thing is, there isn't one side to the story like you are interpreting it OP. The resistance fighters are all told that the upper class (original Ark inhabitants) are hoarding food and supplies and just letting the impoverished (refugees) die. The security fighters are told that all the supplies are diminishing due to overpopulation and that the lower class resistance is turning hostile and causing chaos through terroristic acts.

Basically each side thinks they are fighting for the good side, but in reality both the leaders of the Resistance and those of the Security are corrupt and lying to their people so they can get their way. In reality people most likely end up on whichever side of the fight that they're economic position puts them in. The richer original inhabitants side with the security and the poorer hitchhikers side with the resistance.

Edit: Reading through the thread a little bit: Both sides are in the same economic situation. Neither side is living "cushy". Food and supplies are drastically dwindling on the Ark due to the large population and the only people that may be living in slight luxury is the leaders. The Resistance are merely told the Security has plenty of comfort.

I'd be the fat cat ruling over the security, pushing them around so I can sit on my lazy butt...

Realistically speaking, security.
Im not picking a particular side though; you have to play both in multiplayer, anyways.

perhaps we be neither side and just simply survive killing anything in my way ,resistance raid squads , Security Swat teams don't matter just make me mad and bite down on something your about to get your head knocked in. hey there's a reason why my Avatar is a Heaven & Hell metaphor.

money wont feed anyone

weird i wonder if thats why cooking it never works...

To be perfectly honest, I'd have to side with Security on this one.

The cold hard fact of the matter is that cramming 50,000 people onto something meant for 5,000 is unsustainable, and it's only going to get worse. whats really needed is a culling, as horrible as it sounds. the population needs to be reduced or else EVERYBODY dies.

I've not really seen anything specifically say whether those in charge allowed the refugees on out of the goodness of their hearts, or because they simply couldn't stop them, or perhaps somewhere inbetween where they allowed them at first, but faster than they could react, the numbers simply became to huge? regardless, it may very well prove the undoing of the arc. from a coldly logical standpoint, the security is largely in the right, the arc belongs to the original colonists more than the resistance. And as history has shown time and time again (and will continue to do so as long as 2 human beings exist) when two groups cannot survive together, one of them has to go. it's the biological drive to fight tooth and nail for survival, for resources, and for the continuation of the species, complicated by such concepts as culturalism or nationalism where it's more than just you as an individual concept, but as a people concept. Its not much of a stretch to see the resistance as an invading army...in truth it's pretty much what they are.

conversely, the resistance is fighting for the most basic drive of all, survival. for them it's an all or nothing fight. they win, or they're pushed off the arc.

regardless, someone's gotta get pushed off, either the original residence, or the refugees, either shoved off into the waters to hopefully find a new home, or...well...we've all heard of Soylent Green, havn't we?

This.

I am a loyal and devote member of the Security and I always will be... The noble Work of the Founders shall be upheld by me til my dying breathe...

...the Security shall bring this city to order...

P.S. OP, your sig. "I Have No Mission Other Than To Protect The Founder's Vision." I completely agree...