Media steamrolls recent Skyrim "patch" : V

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:47 pm

PC Gamer apparently reports "no comment" from Bethesda regarding the issues created by the .exe patch. Why won't they just comment about it? It's like politics, put out the fire before it starts to rage. At least the story has made its way out into the open.
RockPaperShogun also running a story on how the patch breaks many tweaks and the LA patch. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/11/22/skyrim-patched-for-the-worse/
Again, nothing earth shattering, just nice to see the 'media' report the reality of the situation - patched for the worse.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:33 am

Patch didn't create issues per your own link. Patch was for DRM.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:59 am

There's no fire, it wasn't a patch. It was simply a fix for the DRM system. The only problem it caused was with people who either improperly used the game or with people who used an unauthorized 3rd party tampering of the exe file.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:51 am

There's no fire, it wasn't a patch. It was simply a fix for the DRM system. The only problem it caused was with people who either improperly used the game or with people who used an unauthorized 3rd party tampering of the exe file.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:50 pm

There's no fire, it wasn't a patch. It was simply a fix for the DRM system. The only problem it caused was with people who either improperly used the game or with people who used an unauthorized 3rd party tampering of the exe file.

It was indeed a patch, the fact that all it did was fix the DRM system doesn't make it not a patch.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:33 pm

To be fair, it interferes with a mod. Which is to be expected really.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:52 am

people who used an unauthorized 3rd party tampering of the exe file.

This only serves to highlight your ignorance of what an LAA patch is.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:51 am

How come they don't get it. You CAN'T fight piracy. Do whatever you want, you just can't stop them. Skyrim is one of the VERY FEW games I actually legally bought, and now I feel that it would be much less hassle if I actually pirated it.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:54 pm

To be fair, it interferes with a mod. Which is to be expected really.

With every game since Morrowind, patches have always messed with mods.

Which is why I never mod my game until I feel the patching period is over.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:15 pm

There's no fire, it wasn't a patch. It was simply a fix for the DRM system. The only problem it caused was with people who either improperly used the game or with people who used an unauthorized 3rd party tampering of the exe file.

Incorrect.

I have an original copy bought from Steam and I haven't downloaded anything at all.
I couldn't start Skyrim today until I got the old .exe file back.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:22 pm

How come they don't get it. You CAN'T fight piracy. Do whatever you want, you just can't stop them.

Video game developers seriously need to figure this out.
Every single DRM ever created has been broken in a trivial amount of time.
Most of these have caused (almost) infinitely more anger and stress on paying customers then on pirates (Who give not a single [censored]).

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:28 am

How come they don't get it. You CAN'T fight piracy. Do whatever you want, you just can't stop them. Skyrim is one of the VERY FEW games I actually legally bought, and now I feel that it would be much less hassle if I actually pirated it.

People like you give PC gamers a bad name.

Filthy pirates.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:42 pm

It honestly doesn't matter if what they do interferes with a mod. The game is copyrighted to Bethesda and they can do whatever they want. They also allow people to make and use mods on their games and they support it so however they choose to set the parameters on that is up to them. I'm grateful they allow all the talented modders to make what they make, within Bethesda's rules, whatever they are. I can't wait until the Creation Kit is available so I can get a look. DRM is a fact of life, no biggie.

:tes:

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:10 am

How come they don't get it. You CAN'T fight piracy. Do whatever you want, you just can't stop them. Skyrim is one of the VERY FEW games I actually legally bought, and now I feel that it would be much less hassle if I actually pirated it.

You're right, they should just give up and start giving the game away for free to anyone who doesn't volunteer to pay for it.
:rolleyes:

You're a theif and should start giving life sentences to morons like you...I take that back, because honest people would still have to pay for your crooked ass to eat in prison...death penalty. :stare:

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:08 am

People like you give PC gamers a bad name.

Filthy pirates.

That doesn't make his statement false.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:22 pm

I also had no issues with this DRM fix. Game runs like it did before, save games work as well.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:43 am

There's no fire, it wasn't a patch. It was simply a fix for the DRM system. The only problem it caused was with people who either improperly used the game or with people who used an unauthorized 3rd party tampering of the exe file.

Some people use it "improperly" because if they run it through steam they get problems such as achievements being forced upon them even when running Steam in offline mode and because of other problems forced upon users because of Steam.

The players who bought the game just want to play it properly without any interference from a program whose sole purpose on this planet seems to be to interrupt gaming. So it's really quite unfair to expect users to play with Steam, heck I and many others would even take disc checks over Steam DRM.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:56 am

How come they don't get it. You CAN'T fight piracy. Do whatever you want, you just can't stop them. Skyrim is one of the VERY FEW games I actually legally bought, and now I feel that it would be much less hassle if I actually pirated it.

You're such a waste of oxygen.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:47 pm

The piracy argument doesn't make much sense in my opinion. Adding a additional DRM !!! after !!! release is simply ??????.

The only thing it does, is anger loyal customers, nothing more.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:42 am

People like you give PC gamers a bad name.

Filthy pirates.

How come? I honestly buy the games if I think developers/publishers deserve the money. I know that I will get hundreds if not thousands of hours of entertainment playing Skyrim. I can say the same about Total War series and Civilization series, Assassins Creed series. I don't think however that publishers should be asking 50€ (that's almost 70 dollars) for a game that will last me about 6 hours (Modern Warfare is the best example of this. I don't play multiplayer).

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:32 pm

Same here. The only reason I know about the fix for Steam is because of reading about it here. I've been playing nonstop since release, albeit slowly.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:36 am

I still don't get why people say Steam bothers them when you can just go to

Steam -> Settings

And turn everything you don't want off with a single mouse click.

You're being dramaqueens.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:21 pm

I still don't get why people say Steam bothers them when you can just go to

Steam -> Settings

And turn everything you don't want off with a single mouse click.

You're being dramaqueens.

Because its easier to [censored] than spend 2 minutes searching through settings. Ignorance is king.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:54 pm

The piracy argument doesn't make much sense in my opinion. Adding a additional DRM !!! after !!! release is simply ??????.

The only thing it does, is anger loyal customers, nothing more.

This.

Also, the game has already been pirated (And thus is universally available to all pirates, forever and ever), far before they added this arbitrary DRM change that only makes it more annoying to start the game.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:10 pm

people who used an unauthorized 3rd party tampering of the exe file.

Being ignorant on what LAA is and does is fine as not everyone understands that its a simple check box in WINDOWS and part of the OS. Posting this on a forum without a simple Google makes you like like a fool.