the fur looks great heck it would even be passable for a pc shot

just noticed pricture that made me chuckle, i am a child :shakehead:, but i dont get people saying it looks really bad, it doesnt look cutting edge but it comparable with alot of games out there

4+year old games :/

Those mammoths seem like they can predict your gripes from a mile; they sure looked like a cranky lot. Crankyass mammoth does not amused.

Based on your opinion. And your grammar skills are not doing justice for your cause.

maybe not but for a late 2011 game its disappoiting, don't you think?

I think the mammoth picture is pretty decent, but the indoor picture with the Nord in it looks incredible.

Hmmm, now that I look at it, it's starting to look better. I guess at first I just thought the art style was odd, but it's ok now.

However, after looking at it for so long, the trees are starting to look poorly done, and the grass looks identical to Oblivion's.

I could think of many, many 2011 titles much worse. This is one of the best looking titles i've seen yet. Now you want a case of no improvement graphicaly, look at the last 5 COD titles (terrible, overrated games btw). Hell, look at the MW3 trailer. Looks the same as BO and MW2. Now, look at Fallout 3 to Skyrim. I'd say thats really damn good for 360 hardware.

looks better than brink, all the cods and is comparable with rdr from what we've seen, but thats just my opinion it isnt up to snuff in yours and thats cool

If I could just see a PS3 screenshot... I must see a PS3 screenshot, already.

Fair enough :foodndrink: , still hope they will release a graphix patch for pc verion :tes:

Some people are never satisfied - the mammoth looks great!

Since there are no mammoths or giants in Oblivion, here's a scenery comparison.

http://i.imgur.com/gGHUa.jpg

Dude, we have no idea when that pic is from. Bethesda randomly decided to release it. It could be from early tests, it could be while running a test on low settings. We just have no idea. Chill your boots, kid. TES was never about graphics and never will be. This isn't Uncharted 3 or even RAGE. It's a huuuuuge game and thus you have to sacrifice some graphics.

The mammoths and grass could look better, but how about those mountains? They look incredible. I think that more than makes up for it.

One of the problems as I see it is the inconsistency of the graphics we have seen, both in pictures and the trailer. At times it looks very crisp such as the panoramic view of the mountains and the Ice Wraiths. But the eye tends to get drawn to the less than polished features, such as the Mammoths hide or the water in the rapids or the painted-on textures look of the roads and armor. Artistically Bethesda are doing their best to compensate for the limitations of the much-maligned 360, but the overall effect is a little underwhelming at times.

I wish a next gen console comes out soon so we can all enjoy current gen PC graphics instead of last gen console graphics.

Its a single frame. All screenshots are like that. When your playing it will look much better when your seeing 30 frames per second.

It's been pointed out in the thread about those screenshots that the plants in the image don't really look that much better than Oblivion,



That seems like a pretty good comparison, it definitely puts the visual differences between the games into perspective, and I'm inclined to agree that the grass doesn't look that great, though this problem was present in other screenshots that showed grass as well, so it's not really a new thing, aside from that and the textures on the mommoth looking a little low resolution, though, I was fairly pleased with the screenshot, and really, those are the problems I'd expect to see due to the limitations of console hardware.



And yet both Morrowind and Oblivion were considered pretty graphically impressive when they were released, the reason why the graphics are not top of the line is not because of the kind of game it is or that Bethesda isn't focusing on that aspect of the game, it's that they're constrained by five year old hardware. Still, I can certainly live with the graphics as they are now, it's not like I expected Skyrim to be the next Crysis, but saying that graphics were never a major focus of the series is simply not true.



Actually, that's not always true, for one thing, screenshots don't capture animations, so it may be that seeing the game in motion will actually make it look worse if the animations are bad, further, when playing the game, you get to examine things more closely and from different angles, potentially noticing flaws not visible in the screenshots, of course, it may also be that while playing the game, you're focused on, well, playing, rather than looking for every flaw you can find in its graphics, so in the end, it just depends.

Look, I too shares the opinion that the graphics in Skyrim are significantly improved compared to Oblivion, but at least if you want to post those comparison screenshots put the one with the decent enough graphic settings on it. Heck, there's none of the grass visible on the Oblivion's screenshot.

Morrowind isn't even a decade old.

Do they look maybe Five years old? Yah, cause the hardware is Five years old.

Do they look bad, naw. Still, with even less graphic fidelity, they put more detail in their world than The Witcher 2 has. So whatever. I'd sacrifice detail for fidelity any day. And no, they aren't the same thing.

By the way, every time a Graphical Complaint thread is made, a studio invests in another borefest like Golden Axe: Beastrider. Please stop ruining the industry.

You think Skyrim is about the graphics? Wait until you see the E3 demo.

well its nothing you cant get rid of it with mods like better grass, more tree variants and higher resolution textures and they will come for sure

the scenery and the mountains in the background are a huge advance from oblivion, but graphics arent the most important thing for the game to success and get a lot of fans....

the witcher 2 looks awesome but i cant play it for more then 10mins before i get anoyed how the game handles ladders, targeting and looting, so pretty graphics should be the last one to get upset, if the exploring tes feeling comes up again with all those new features everything will be fine :thumbsup:

That's a fair rebuttal. I should have said TES has never tried to be at the absolute leading edge of graphical wizardry. I think that's accurate. Certainly, when Morrowind came out, it was in the top tier. But it certainly wasn't the best out there. Nor was Oblivion. Yeah, obviously Bethesda hasn't just tossed graphics out the window, but I maintain that it's never been about having the best graphics out there. It's been about having the best graphics possible for having a game that size.

What are you gonna do? It's the PS3 and Xbox360 and both still have great graphical capabilities despite being 5 years old. People expect too much. Name me a bigger game than Skyrim with better graphics than Skyrim.

Best screen that I've seen yet.