vsions already said we haven't seen anything yet. Good enough for me.

You must not have seen the one with the Nord, yet. It's so... life-like. Honestly, I can't believe how good the one with the Nord in it (the other new one) looks. I really hope the PS3 version looks every bit as good. It's killing me to see all these screenshots and know that somehow, the PS3 version will have some differences, yet I don't get to see those differences.

Skyrim is being praised graphically in every media outlet I've encountered. Personally, I think there's a bit of undue praise, but I'm just saying that nothing has really changed. If anything, that their game can still garner such praise in the age of Crysis, The Witcher 2, and RAGE, it's just indicative that either most of the "Graphical Purists" in the forum has no idea what they're talking about, or the media is looking beyond simple polygon counts, and at the bigger picture itself.

More than anything, I think Skyrim underscores the problem most people have with differentiating aesthetics and art, with graphics and technology. For example, The Witcher 2 has (for the most part, there are a few amazingly inspired bits) very weak art, and bland aesthetics, but very impressive graphical tech behind it. Skyrim has relatively weaker graphics technology, but much better art and aesthetic feel. RAGE combines both, though maybe ripping a little too much from Fallout, in terms of aesthetics.

I also think it's unfair how a lot of people assume a game built completely differently, that has better graphical tech than Skyrim, automatically means Skyrim is behind the curve though. How the world has to be drawn in Something like The Witcher 2, and Skyrim are entirely different, and applying the standards of one, to the other, is utterly unfair, and quite ignorant.

Can you please provide a picture of what you would consider good grass?

Obviously the big problem with Woolly Mammoths is making their hide/fur look realistic, getting realistic looking hair on humans is hard enough.

Thought I would compare the Elephants from Ilianas Elsweyr Deserts of Anequina mod:

http://deutschefrauen.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/oblivion-20090815-231116_s.jpg

They were mountable and quite well animated, a bit unfair to compare them to the Mammoths as Illiana didn't have the issue of hair/fur to contend with.

well said luke i think even the seemingly unpleasable pc players will be happy seeing the game in action.

This. :grad: :goodjob:

I think people are mistaking it as bad due to the type of grass it is. In an area like that the grass would look exactly like that in that it's patchy and clumped where growing as they are weeds. The only true issue is an issue pretty much all games have with grass is that it doesn't blend well with the ground texture since it's flat.

Awesome comparison. Thanks.

http://therestlesstraveler.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Screen-shot-2010-02-27-at-9.12.01-AM.png :whistling:

Thank you. The difference is stunning.

1. Does anyone notice the view distance with the mountain in the background/fog? Beautiful!

2. This is a screenshot taken on the 360. I'm sure it'll look a lot better when you're playing it in motion (And it's on an HD TV.)

3. When Bethesda says they're pushing the limit of the consoles...They mean it. Be happy.

Pretty much. People seem to think that grass is nothing but lush thick green plentiful grass.

My boyfriend and I freaked when we saw the new screens... we thought they looked incredible. I think some people have expectations that are just unreal. Oh well. I'll be too busy enjoying the beauty of the game to care if other people gripe.

The mammoth picture is okay. Nothing amazing. But the other one is pretty damn good.

Yeah, I thought that the view were aesthetically pleasing enough for me, easily noticeable technological limitations notwithstanding. Especially those mountains. Dayum I sooo want to climb them!

I feel bad for the people that are disappointed with the looks of the game, I think it looks fantastic. Their loss I suppose.











(And they'll still buy it )

See, what I find amazing about the mammoth picture, isn't anything visually, but the context. How the Giant is interacting with the Mammoths, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it definitely looks like he's herding them in a particular direction, which indicates a level of NPC-World interaction we're just not accustomed to. I certainly don't want to get my hopes up, but people need to look beyond the picture, and look at the implications.

Look again my friend, the light is shining through the gap between her tusks, but her body casts a shadow on the grass behind.

These screens are marvellous, and I'm confident that the PC version will improve the shadow render distance and texture res. I only hope tessellation can fix those angular trunks and tusks...

Either way, this is more than I hoped for.

read this post this is the exact thought to the letter that goes through my mind every time i hear pc players bashing the graphics!!!

I think i have a new wallpaper.

And all the threads like this that the demo will spawn. Why doesn't it look like Battlefield 3? Why aren't the animations like Uncharted 3?

As long as the gameplay and features don't suffer, like the graphics have in skyrim or how they cut content in oblivion, due to consoles limitations, I'll be happy. I just wish it wasn't so easy to please 5 year old tech console players, otherwise imagine how fantastic this game could have been, instead of looking "cutting edge console"....
Imagine those mammoth tusks with tessellation. No more straight lines! The next gen consoles are now, buy a pc!(or spend the same amount in a few years on a console...or wait a few more years after release for a price drop so you won't have to spend as much as a pc)


Look, I can call console players names too!!! Yippie!

The game looks great so far devs! Keep up the good work!

I can't wait to see what modders do to those mammoths.

I think the photo is pre-alpha and the brush on the ground looks terrible, the trees look fine, the giant looks great! and the mammoths look almost lifeless and what is with the markings on their tusks?