thats an easier issue to fix than the Xbox itself haha.. throw a USB drive into the back of your rig, and save files onto it

Well.....it could come to that....but.....


One.....M$ charge 60 bucks per year for the priviledge of making saves to either the "cloud" or onto flash /usb drives (yes really)


Two......Your still back to having to find a new xbox360 to use the usb/cloud save file with.



The additional heartache bit......is still never being able to use the new SSE version with your long term developed char.


I wish it was an easy answer.....but its not....Sigh!

It was a joke. You know, like those cheeky ones you seem to make all the time.

And Rick. addressed your point.

I've never had a problem backing up my saves on a USB with my 360 or my PS3, and I don't pay Microsoft to do that. Why would you have to pay to plug a USB into your Xbox?


I too was a little worried about not being able to replace my 360, until I realized that the Original Xbox (refurbished) is still available for purchase for pretty cheap. It's been out of production for 7 years. Over 75 million Xbox 360s were sole, over three times as many as the original Xbox. If you are not up to repairing yours, you could always pick up a refurbished one. Heck, there are even companies selling refurbished Atari 2600 consoles and those are from the 1980s.

Some new (old) news about save file transferring for Consoles.

Pete Hines, Vice President of Bethesda, confirmed while answering to fan’s question on Twitter that cross platform transfer of saved files will not be possible for the remastered version of the game.

One of the fans also inquired whether the saved files can be transferred from PC to Xbox One via the official Bethesda website, to which Hines replied with a straight ‘No’.

Although this news might be disappointing for players who have spent hundreds of hours playing Skyrim, we have to understand the fact that the current gen consoles (Xbox One and PlayStation 4)

and the previous gen consoles (Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3) have entirely different data structures which makes it impossible to transfer saved files.

Lastly, Pete Hines also stated on Twitter that PC player could already get the same experience that the remaster offers with mods which is why they are giving it away for free.

This means that since the remastered experience does not exist on Xbox One and PlayStation 4 they have to pay for it.

To be honest, as Bethesda is a company anyway, their main goal is to make money and that is (obviously) why console players will have to pay the price for the Skyrim SE. (IMHO)

If that's justified, that's another story...

@Chaka ZG

>...it's just whether the company thinks it's worth the time and effort or not. <

I thing, it's not only Bethesda's call but Sony's and Microsoft's as well!

Turija


Well....Im afraid just plugging in a usb does not work.....the facility is actually disabled....UNLESS you pay for M$ 'Gold Service'


Why do have you to pay to have that facility enabled?.....IT IS M$......you PAY for everything, plus presumably they don't want you doing back ups to usb instead of using their 'pay to use' 'cloud' drive.....so they charge for both! (one fee, sixty bucks a year....its worse if you pay quarterly).


But that is all to some extent STILL beside the point. I have a similar problem to Bleakwail ( and I did sit through his video plea) in that I want my very long term xbox 360 save on SSE on XB1.


Unlike him....I would be happy for a tool as I previously described....a compromise. Rather than porting the original save across....I would settle for being able to create a new save in which the relevant quests are MANUALLY recorded as done and the skills set to the same as the old 360 save. In this way.....whilst equipments (assets) would be lost....the actual game progress would be RECREATED allowing a continuation from that point forward on SSE.


Bleakwail......


I hear your pain......sadly, probably no one else here does.....and even less likely in Bethesda......most people will go..."shrug....start again dude". But they wouldn't if it was their irreplaceable save on the line!


I wish I could help you....I am sorry.....for both of us.

I'd already read that. It's part of what motivates me to be here.

Pete Hines.... So many four letter words come to mind....

Oh, and he IS straight out lying! I mean, we've already proven that in the last thread.

If only harsh language would work...

Rick,


Looks like I had outdated data. The Microsoft limitation on using USB files for saves is sorta new. It wasn't that way when I got my first Xbox 360 back in 2010. I remember backing up saves on a USB.


Bad Microsoft for forcing everyone to use the cloud. I hate the cloud and use it as little as possible. You lose control when you are forced to use the cloud.


Personally I won't use anything that requires such nonsense which is why I won't buy another Xbox ever. I have a few Xbox games I still like to play but this cloud thing you pointed out irks me, so I will just get PC copies of those games when my Xboxes break.


PS4 allows you to save to USB as does my PS3, so if I ever do get a next gen console, it's going to be PS4, not an Xbox. Xbox was going to force online play until Sony announced they would allow offline play and Microsoft was forced to capitulate because of the outcry.


I wish TES would run on Linux better then I could ditch Microsoft entirely. Arrg!

I agree.....I loath M$ as a company. Everything they do is money motivated....even when it doesn't need to be. The

Only reason I went the x360 route was to get the early dlc working and of course ps3 was impossibly laggy as the file size grew.

At the time the ps3 was the technically superior machine.....but not for the way Skyrim was configured to use its duel ram.


So I went x360 as a common sense decision.....and it took me ages to get used to the odd assymetric controller.


Now we are back at the same conundrum with XB1 and PS4


Again PS4 is hailed as the hard core gamer machine while XB1 aims for the 'Home Entertainment Sys' badge.

YET PS4 is the one with the most limited mod storage space issue and FO4 mods, already on XB1, are still denied PS4


For almost any other game....PS4 would arguably be the machine of choice....especially with that free online facility and I think usb saves for backup.


I hate compulsary online keys/accounts too. You buy a console to play games....not to be frustrated by setting up even more email accounts just to register your new console before you can use it.....ridiculous. What happens if you don't have internet? Or it goes down?


Internet should never be anything to do with your gaming requirement period. Buy a machine, buy a game, play it thats all...unless you CHOOSE to do online gaming or digital downloading. Every time we get a machine....of any electronic type.....it demands account creation with a fresh email and password. And it knows if you try to use existing ones!


So now I have a dozen gmail addresses and various passwords for loads if equipments old and new.......sick of it....really!

Yeah, there are pros and cons to both. I too started with PS3 (PS2 actually, now that was a great machine) and then got an Xbox in early 2010 to play Morrowind. Initially, I couldn't stand the Xbox controller but now I am used to it and actually prefer it to PS3. When Skyrim came out I played for the first year on my PS3. I installed a SSD, which helped quite a bit with the Skyrim lag, but it still runs better on Xbox.

Now they have moved to next gen and there are still pros and cons to both, just different ones than before. Of course the other solution is to switch to PC, where you are not bound by the whims of Microsoft and Sony.

But I still like playing certain games on console (particularly Borderlands) and I use my PS3 for all my netflix streaming. It is easier on console since you can turn the machine on and off remotely. I have to get my butt off the couch to turn the PC on. Plus, I just prefer using controllers to mice or TV remotes. You can use Xpadder to make your controller mimic a mouse, but its one more thing to have to turn on before I can sit back and relax. So, I keep my PS3 to play Borderlands and watch TV and my Xboxes get occasionally used for a few games.

@Rick. & Turija : I wasn't really following your discussion but yes, they changed the USB thing for Xbox One, so the only place you can save your games now is on the Cloud. This makes playing without an internet connection highly dependent on the game.

It was something I raised as an issue when Fallout 4 Mods were announced as I was worried about losing my saves or having Mods corrupt them. Due to the Forums moving over to Bethesda.net and the Xbox Forums being a huge waste of time, nothing ever really happened and no-one really cared enough to push it any further.

Personally, I loathe Sony far more than Microsoft, because at least you know Microsoft is only driven by money and stupidity. Sony are capable of being far more insidious than that.

Yeah, but its not just that is it........you can get free cloud storage for photos and files from a number of companies now.


But M$ charge you 60 bucks per year for their cloud as part of their "Gold Service" Rip off !


Playing Skyrim alone for four years costs only the initial purchase of 60 bucks for the game disc


But......Having cloud to make back up saves to for four years costs 240 bucks....Ker-ching !

Maybe it is due to the engine upgrade, but in all honesty, it is a bit of of a bs answer. Diablo 3 allowed porting a save game file from an old version of the game to a new one, and you could port it from your 360 to a ps 4, so from a technical point of view that statement is a little bit smelly.

Comparing your video game progress with precious memories of your child, prime example of 1st world problems. Big difference is, you have that child only once, while you can make a new character, or if that stresses you out so much just keep playing the old version. No one's putting a knife to your neck to switch to the upgrade.

@Mark5917

I was generalizing it, but that's not unlikely to be so, either.

Well, as the previous version of Skyrim haven't anything in common with mods or shiny looking graphics, i thing...someone could take it lightly to start over.

That would be a disaster if the same would apply to the PC users.

I don't know really. The devs have stated that Skyrim SE is more than graphical improvements and mod support. It will have some surprises, but they don't wanna speak about that, yet...

Maybe they have tweaked the game that way, that neither Sony or Microsoft could do anything to make a cross save feature to work. That's only my opinion.

I believe theres a deal of confusion here what you seem to be saying is that what Hines seems to be saying is that Remastered Skyrim's data format is not compatible with the old versions data format and that ought to include the PC too. The remaster is invalidating previous saves.

I'm not convinced he's saying that though, I think he's just that they won't support transfer between platforms not that that they're incompatible in some way.

Unless I've got you completely wrong? This is confusing enough as it is lol.

AND THAT point of view and "shrug it off" attitude is exactly why I went to such lengths to explain why this issue actually means something important to some of us.


As long as people continue with the "pull up the ladder jack" and "get over it" view, we will never have a truly cohesive community.


So maybe next time you run into a technical problem and approach the community for ideas.....someone will say.....no one's forcing you to play this game, just switch to a different game pal. Not so funny then huh