In theory, if my laptop can handle M2TW, could it handle S2TW?

Total war series hasn't used sprites since Rome total war back in 2004, and that is for lower settings, you can eliminate them on higher settings which any GPU can do nowadays.

Have you seen Shogun 2 total war? The amount of detail and unit size is amazing.

Depends on your laptop. If it can max Shogun II, then it will max Medieval II, heavily modded, with no problem.

I have Medieval, but I'm wondering if I could play Shogun 2 on it.

Well, this isn't really the place for that. Post in the tech thread, or the TW thread in community discussion. They will tell you. But if you have a nice, new laptop, I guess. I don't know much about laptops, just desktops and building them.

This doesn't sound any different than how it used to be except I guess everyone didn't have a computer back then. Wasn't like the kids of yesteryear all happily had the knowledge of or access to PC gaming and now they're just choosing not to play. Console gaming was all most of us knew even existed.

The NPC answer may be right or it may be more of a political dodge. Leaving aside the fanwanking, I still think it was done to cut down on stacking enhancements, but there's a lot to be said for reducing clipping to keep those interested in such things from howling too much.

Yeah, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df_PrVPOq_0&feature=related

im always puzzled by how some people seem to think that PC gaming is hard. you turn on your PC and you hit the icon to start the game. occasionally you have to put a game in the disk drive but if you have lots of steam games even thats not an issue, with console games you have to switch disks far more often. no disk switching when i play LA Noire for me. that doesnt speak much for someones mental abilities if they cant handle something if my 6 year old niece plops down and does when she gets home from school.

PC sales are equivalent to xbox sales. the reason you dont see stats is because STEAM doesnt release their online sales but one of STEAMS people mentioned that 10% of STEAM members on any given day. just popped up my STEAM and it says 2.2 million users today. you can do the math. also: from wiki

top 5 PC sales. not including STEAM sales.

sims 16 million
sims 2 13 million
WoW 12 million subscribers (thats not including people that bought it in the past and no longer play like myself)
Starcraft 11 million
Half-life 2 6.5 million (half life 1 sold more than 9 million but that was before consoles really took off so i left that one out)

top 5 360 sales
halo 14.5 million
CoD black ops 12.5 million
CoD MW2 7.8 million
Gears of War 5 million

edit: the third best selling "game" for 360 is some kinect thing but it game with the bundle so thats more of a forced purchase.

and you were saying something about PC being a niche market?

Ive seen some Steam sales that totally piss on the used gaming market in general. Steam isn't so bad. In fact, Steam is excellent now, opposed to when it first released. Steam would actually be good for gamers if it went on every gaming system.

The merging was one of my greatest concerns. But only for optical reasons. My char never wore something on his legs in TES games and wouldn't do in Skyrim. If beth had produced condem-like armour comparable to that in Fallout, I wouldn't play the game. But I like the armour as it is. The simple light armour shows flesh, the better not.

The only wish I have is: give us a possibility to wear a cape or cloak over the armour.



As Jasta11 said, there were no naked Scots charging at someone. The Scots came to nowadays Scotland from northern Ireland from the 6th century AD onwards, founding Dal Riada and fighting against the native Picts. The Picts might have fought naked against the Romans and Britons sometimes and have used woad to paint or even tattoo the skin. The name "Picts" hints at this, it is related with the Latin word for paint/painting.

There were also no painted Scots, presumably. Poor William Wallace and his fellows (Wallace btw never wore a kilt or plaid -non-existing in the 13th c. AD- nor a leine) were therefore heavily [censored] by Mr Gibson (who made one of the worst history movies ever).

What the Scots did however was usually fighting with naked legs and feet (like the Picts before), wether they wore a leine or -later- a plaid (which was usually discharged before battle). Many of them also lived a great part of the normal life without trousers. So naked skin is no contradiction to cold climate. However, people with naked briasts in Skyrim are a bit strange. But take into account the strange Skyrim climate itself, which is seemingly not like ours: great parts of the northern sea are not frozen, although the more southerly Windhelm is. So there must be a lot of regional warm air areas. :thumbsup:

PS: hehe, "censored", that's nice and even better than the word I used... :hubbahubba:

yeah im a convert. i initially hated the idea but the convenience creeps up on you over the years. the only thing that still bugs me and its not that huge of a deal is not being able to resell my games i dont play anymore, on the other hand i can get lots of games that they no longer print and ive found some games i had completely forgotten about or gave up trying to find legitimately and they are dirt cheap. hell ill pay 4.99 for a game that gave me tons of enjoyment 10 years ago.

Spot On :thumbsup:

Scots had to conform to Medieval era tactics otherwise they wouldn't be very competitive would they?

The Picts did use warpaint as did many native Britannic tribes and some were naked, but that was back in antiquity.

The Picts were rightly feared by both the Romans and many outsiders.

Yep, masses of NPCs

Ohyea this. I was starting to agree with OP as i didnt see much increase in the number of NPCs. Then my thoughts went back to the whole throng of stormcloaks i had massacred a few hours ago. And i smiled

those were horrible battles. maybe im spoiled with my 250 unit battles in Warband but only fighting with 16 npcs at a time and having them poof one at a time right in front of me was really svcky.

Ill concede to that if its true. You meant MW3 though i think(1 BILLION$)? But y would billion dollar companies advertise their games which are predominately console? Not that some are exclusive but why waste the money and advertising? y hide the great pc games unless they are a niche? no one said they are hard. but most people dont wanna deal with the technical aspects. they wanna push a button and go. gamers thatgo that deep into a game are by definition in a niche. myself included. I know for a fact if PC games meant MONEY, you would see it everywhere. I cant go n e where without hearing an ad 4 MARIO or Gamefly.LAME.
I just dont see it. Also done with this post. too lame now. Rather argue bout whats the best shout. this is a casual forum. Thanks 4 the back n forth.

There were around a dozen on each side at a time, which was about my expectation so I was happy, but hardly a staggering amount. 50 might've been something.

you might be hit with more TV ads and such but everytime i shut down a game from STEAM i get a pop up of games on sale or new arrivals.......really annoying at times. BF3 was all over the place and that was branded a PC first game from the get go. DICE wouldnt stop talking or showing demos of how it looked on the PC and lots of people were stuck wondering what it would look like on the console. as for not many PC games in the store i think thats because over half the sales are now done online through STEAM and i buy almost all my PC games online and just have them shipped to me. in fact SKYRIM and FLIGHT SIM from microsoft are the last two games ive actually bought at best buy in the last two years. everything else has been STEAM or from a website.

some people may still deny it but piracy is another issue for PCs. consoles for the most part are guaranteed sales because most console users arent aware of how to get illegal copies or arent willing to go through the effort. i know you think its a leash but i see mostly upside in both consolers and PC gamers being tide together. people are right when they say that when i buy forza and play it on my xbox that money is going towards the next game in the series. and when i recently bought my 580 nvidia card that money went to the company that is going to manufacture the next GPU for one of the upcoming consoles. its a symbiotic relationship.

LMFAO as drunk as i am i still cannot the believe the stupidity of the "Console aint the problem". Reading thier post they are even saying over and over again that the graphics, details. performace yes are lower on Xbox/Ps3 and still saying that it aint the problem..... :banghead: . Ok, here the thing anyone who owns a pc and playing this game will admit that they made this game FOR console and ported it to the PC, meaning that the consoles cannot handle the same amount as the pc so yes they had to cut loose ends to make it fit and work on the Xbox/Ps3 by numerous of things to make it look great on conoles and still be able to run. Seriously look at the things in the game, everythign looks great mid range and far away but when u press ur nose up against a rock/tree/grass/building/anythign at all in the game it basically looks like its renders in 16bit graphics....they have to make sacrifises and drops sooo many things in plain sight under peoples noses just to get it to [censored] run on a piece of [censored] console when the game begs to ran at full speed on a machine that can handle her, [censored] bethesda us PC gamers are what fixes ur [censored] games and gives u alot of ur ideas. I dont normally get mad and hell used to laugh at the whole console vs Pc fights in the past, but [censored] when they [censored] with a TES game to make sure it can be ran on console BEFORE a pc, ya i get [censored] pissed. Its like going to a major theme park but having to stay in the kiddie section because the person ur with cant handle the big stuff so ur stuck babysitting and staring at the wonder at what the trip coulda been like if u didnt have that one person tagging along it woulda been soo great, but no ur stuck in the [censored] kiddie section.

So ya say its not the console fault that everytime u run into a wall the screen goes all 16 bit on ya with the textures, players lose armor slots because of all the memory it will save on all those npcs out there, UI is almost [censored]ign unnavigatable on with keyboard and mouse, that every kid in Skyrim is [censored] a nord . [censored], i dunno why Bethesda didnt release the damn game on PC first and let us fix all the damn bugs then they coulda taken the code and broke it down and weaken everythign grpahics/memory/etc for the lil milk drinkers on console...

I agree with OP, the Elder Scrolls series isn't the same from when I used to be able to change myself from an Ebony to Daedric loincloth. [censored] you developers, you can't make your game, you must make mine! Fight the power, comrade. :gun:

'Cause he didn't like It.

I must admit though, that I prefered separated pieces, if only for the collecting value.

You can? Could you explain it then? I mean, the just because two pieces of armour are merged into one, doesn't really reduce the number of polygons the game need to draw to the armour piece.
One item of 10,000 polygons VS two items of 6,000 and 4,000 polygons... in terns of how much power the computer needs to render the item, it's the same thing. Where would the boost of power come from, by merging the items?

Not trying to flame, just interested in seeing exactly how merging of the armour types allows for more NPC's?

ah the old console vs pc fight.

consolers tryng desperatley to ignore the obvious.

pc gamers trying desperatley to get them to see what a consolised game is.


whoever made the comment about console games getting few and far between is a madman.

consolers are obviously stuck with paying twice the price for a fraction of the game.
pc gamers are stuck playing a fraction of the game for the usual price

and all the time the developer is sat there laughing his ass off at us all,because they know if they can just join the console money trough and throw out garbage,then they are happy as larry.

did you read the working day of a beth dev blog ?
what work does he actually get done in a day ?..2 hours at most....oh they love doing console games,if they are bored they can just ask the janitor to copy paste a few towns while they go for a 3 hour lunch.

at least we can recycle/sell the game on if its rubbish...oh wait..steam..we cant...yet another "take it like a man" moment we all failed to rebel against.
now they are butchering games and selling rubbish and still people defend it
we deserve everything they shovel at us...is that where shovel-ware came from

Well basically all rts games are pc only