If Meridia's Sphere is infinite energy, then isn't she Anuic? So why is she a Daedra?

Because she got kicked out of Aetherius, dwells in Oblivion and never participates in creation/becomes an ancestor.

Because she pissed off her Solar Daddy for 'consorting' with Padomaic stuff (or consorted with a certain Padomaic Aedra to create a wider colour spectrum from Magnuses white light).

Also, Daedra and Aedra don't mean jack when talking about their allignment with Anu and Padomay. Aedra means a spirit who participated in the creation of Mundus, and Daedra are the spirits who created Oblivion. Example, in the case of Jygalag, he is probably one of the most Anuic spirits in existence, but chose to make a realm in the waters of Oblivion.

It is a theory that it may have been Umaril the Unfeathered whom she was banished for consorting with.

Which wouldn't make sense. Umaril made a pact with her while she was Daedric Prince, it would be paradoxal for Magnus to banish her for something she would only do in the future if she was banished and became Daedric; the Dragon would feel rather sick.

For the sake of both clarification and nitpickery, I have to say that I feel like Sheog created the Shivering Isles as opposed to Jyg; Jyg (Order, which exists because Time, and in turn Uncertainty, doesn't exist yet) couldn't give himself to creation because Creation can't exist exactly. After the convention, Time starts, and therefor, Jyg "flips" into Sheog. Exactness becomes Uncertainty.

But in the end, that's my theory.

First, I'm not the one who thought of it. Second, we don't know much about the pact with Meridia.

Well whatever, my point was that he's an Anuic being who dwells within Oblivion, not neccearily with a realm of his own, but still an existence of sorts to which he could go around Ordering the other Princes, and him being Anuic doesn't neccesarily mean that he should be tied up with Mundus.

who made that decision that he even was anuic? i thought that was a guess.

Well, perfect order is perfect stasis.

What I want to know is where she got the Aurorans if she originally wasn't a Daedra. Did she create them, or did she enlist them from elsewhere when she became a Daedra Prince?

Ehhh not necessarily; in my opinion, if Order, or rather, Exactness, was stasis, then the Convention wouldn't have happened. "http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/lessons.shtml#10."

...what??

Perhaps I'm just Meridia-ignorant (it's definitely possible), but in my eyes, a question like that is asking how any general Daedric Prince gets their minions at all....

Note the 'perfect'. Though it might be better changed to "One form of perfect order is stasis".

Well...the et'Ada didn't have a choice but to be the perfect form of their spheres...that's literally why they're the et'Ada. And rewording it the way you've reworded it makes it seem as if Order begat Stasis when it's actually the other way around; in other words, Order is merely a piece of stasis.

True, though I worded it that way as it occurred to me that, for example, a piece of machinery that repeated its operations perfectly and was not subject to entropy would be perfectly ordered, yet not static. Though I suppose if you look at it at a larger level, nothing is really changing within it.

Its just that I wonder when they came around; after all, she supposedly wasn't originally a Daedra.

Technically, none of them were.

Well, in my eyes, if we look at Daedra purely as one who did not give themselves to Creation in this case, then, as the other Princes of Misrule did, she merely cultivated Creatia and created her realm. As realms are literally part of the Princes, in that perspective, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out how they were created.

But, once again, I haven't done a lot of reading about Meridia or her Aurorans.

They all started as Daedra, but then the Eight gave of themselves to create Nirn, thus becoming Aedra. You can't become a Daedric Prince, you have to be born one


Technically, all of them were.

I disagree. Originally, there was no separation between Aedra and Daedra. There were only et'Ada. The choice each made regarding involvement in the creation of Nirn divided them into Aedra and Daedra.

You two just said the same thing with different syntax.

I disagree, they all were Daedra, some decided to created Nirn, some didn't. These ones became the Aedra, the ones that didn't participate remained Daedra. Not participating in something doen't change you

Considering it's just a matter of terms, there is no real difference in saying "All of them were" and "None of them were". There can be neither Aedra nor Daedra without the other to define them.

You're going to have the entirity of this forum disagreeing with you on that.
"Daedra" are thoses spirits who dwell within Oblivion, either within themselves (in the case of the Princes), or within a prince (in the case of lesser Daedra) (much the same as Mortal spirits dwell within the Plane of Nirn, and posibly the other Plane(t)s in Mundus). Those spirits who contributed to nothing stayed locked up in Aetherius and the Void, and are not Daedra or Aedra.

And you're talking about Creation wrong, they Aedra did not change themselves, they gave parts of themselves for creation (which is talked about as the 'true' creation). The Daedra changed themselves, making their spheres within them.