Whoawhoawhoa a mermaid is already a man and a fish. Now you want A Mancatfish? Oh god :sick:

it actually would be pretty cool to swim around and find an under water city. Maybe a reason to have the power to breathe underwater. Its better than slaughter-fish only!

Just a http://mfnd.org/666b/666bP/mercat.jpg no?

Mermaids have had far more depictions across literature and fiction than just "a fish with a human torso".

And try reading the rest of my post:


You say "pissy", but I have a very clear point. You act as though the very letters M E and R mean mermaids HAVE to be mer. That's illogical and just plain ridiculous. It seems to me you're pulling out all the stops just because you don't enjoy the idea of mermaids or sirens.

Exactly what are you thinking of? Whatever it is, I'm fairly sure I can sum it up as "just a fish with a human torso".


I read it the first time and it's just as meaningless to me as it was before.


Really? When the word 'mer' is taken so literally in the TES universe it's illogical and ridiculous? Dare I say you are illogical and ridiculous.

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Good day to you sir!

Mermaids.... me thinks if ye be seeing Mermaids than thou hasth been travelling submerged underwater to long.

I could approve of mermaids, if their appearance is something like http://www.zdf-enterprises.de/h2o/allmedia_season3/index_pink.html.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kvfc9sNF971qawbnao1_400.jpg, or another good example is http://www.vfxtalk.com/feature/framestore/trial_by_water/framestore_potter_03.jpg

Just no to mermaids.

No.

But sirens? Now that's a different story

All we need in water is mudcrabs.

I really cannot say. Depends on how it is implemented. I certainly don't think it is stupid. There is a statue of a Selkie in Anvil, and that is a creature very similar to a mermaid. (Anyone know the lore on her, by the way?) I don't know if the lore currently supports such creatures, but in a world of lizard men and snake people I don't see why it would be terribly out of place.

They could be sirenlike, dangerous, sharp toothed etc. Wicked, potentially lethal mermaids are not a new fad. I don't see the need, but I would cry foul if they appeared in the game. It would certainly be an improvement over the wide, empty seas of Oblivion. Woed und lang das mer!

Vampire mermaids. They pass through the ice to attack people.

I was right. :shrug:

I can sum up most people that way. What are you getting at?

That's kind of the definition of a mermaid, you know.

The only thing inhibiting any incarnation or idea of the mermaid, to you, is that they have MER in their name.

That's downright ridiculous.

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Seriously, if you have no idea what I'm trying to say, why bother? Here is my arguement in a nutshell:

• If it has a human torso, it's got to be a race because it would be classified as either an elf or a man.
  
• If it's called a mermaid, it's got to be a race because the word 'mer' in Elder Scrolls is synonymous with elves.
  
• If it is made a race, developers would have to spend a lot of time and effort writing new lore for background information that could be placed elsewhere.
  
• Mermaids are half woman/half fish. Anything else is not a mermaid so you can't just say "What if they looked like Mirelurk Kings?".

I don't know how you could possibly screw that up.

For sure, a maid who serves Mer heads on a platter is something that the Nords would be more than happy to welcome.

Just bring me my semi-intelligent Dreugh colonies and I'll be more than happy.

What? No. Now, in a series where we have: Medusas (half snake), Lamia (half snake or eel), Dreugh (half octopus), Spider Daedra (half spider), Centaurs (half horse), Herne (half goat), and Harpys (half eagle), how the heck would you argue against another half and half creature? In Redguard we even had a guy who was half boat! That's right, his bottom half was a boat.

False. Look it up. It never meant elf. Not to mention that you don't have to call it a mermaid, but I'll leave that till after you look up what mer means in the Elder Scrolls.

And you feel new lore isn't worth the effort? Either way, they don't need to spend more time on it than they spent on harpies. Which was writing a couple books about them. Hardly taxing. It would take under 24 hours to nail down the lore. They're making millions on the game. I'm sure they could pay the writers.

Don't ask for peoples opinions if your going to be dike about it

Why?

For all we know its a pure animal with a brain like a trout. :shrug:

Yep, the Dreugh were half man half fish (in appearence) and they weren't a race

Most of those are either from Arena or are Daedra (which don't have to make the slightest bit of sense). Todd already confessed to not building canon lore until Redguard. As for Dreughs, look at them in Daggerfall, Morrowind, and Oblivion. They are definitely not half human. I'll need a link to the boat guy. Sounds like magic gone awry to me.


I looked it up on both UESP and the Imperial Library before posting. Yes it does.


Um, already did. Perhaps you are the one that needs to look it up. I've already said it doesn't need to be called a mermaid but then that wouldn't make it one now would it?


I didn't say that. I said spending time on lore for mermaids would be an enormous waste since they don't even fit Skyrim in the least.

Nor is the average gamer going to prefer seeing one instead of a badass, underwater monster.


I don't think you understand that every minute wasted on something pointless is one less spent on something that will actually improve the game.

After looking into it a bit, lamias sure seem to fit the bill to me, and there's a lore basis. I'd even argue the statue in Anvil is meant to be a depiction of one rather than an easter egg of a real statue it doesn't look like.

People can handwave all they want, Arena and Daggerfall are canon - Skyrim all but totally validates them on Alduin's wall. So it's all in. We just haven't seen many of the things that existed in awhile.

BRING CENTAURS BACK, and languages

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