Metacritic has gone crazy

Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:47 am

4.7 average userscore, what the hell is going on here? The unreasonable hatred against this fantastic game is beyond me. I'm freaking confused, I don't even know what to say? What happened?

I mean the game is polished, it looks beautiful, the lightning is awesome. Framerate is with a single exeption 60fps 24/7, no bugs encountered so far, just a little glitch where a raider just refused to stop bleeding. Crafting is awesome. I love how the power armor works and that you can collect every single piece of item in the game for a specific use later. Animations are very enjoyable as well, I like the new dialoguesystem, can hardly remember a chat where I couldn't force, convince or persuade someone to do as I please. The quality of the dialogues have improved also.

I'm not a really really devoted fan, just a regular Fallout fan, but this game is amazing. The hate, I just don't get it :shrug:

Ps: Is fan_boy censored to "really really devoted fan"? What the heck?

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Lexy Dick
 
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:53 am

Who are they and why would I care?

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Isaac Saetern
 
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:45 am

Some people are experiencing bugs which brings the rating down.

Some people just will hate the game and come to it with their own issues.

A lot of people enjoying it are playing the game rather than reviewing it.

Honestly, it is too early to tell how good or bad it is. If you think you can then you've rushed through the game. Fallout games reward patient and committed players. If it doesn't hold up after a second playthrough or after hundreds of hours then go ahead and call it rubbish.

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Jinx Sykes
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:19 pm

It is jealousy. They know that their favorite game can't be as good as Fallout 4 so they try to trash the superior game.
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GLOW...
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:28 pm

Why would anyone feel jealously, unless they had developed the game themselves? O.o

Like, everyone can buy any game so?

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lucy chadwick
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:40 pm

I'm kinda amused that it's broken Metacritic.

All the reviews seem to be along the lines of.

"Hey, They took Fallout 3 and changed some stuff but not a lot and brought over stuff they learned from skyrim. I Love/Hate this game!"

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Esther Fernandez
 
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:05 am

Well, I am enjoying it immensely. I love that they did not stray too far off from Fallout 3 but still managed to improve, innovate, and add new features that flow very well.

Except the removal of item degradation.....
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Eric Hayes
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:06 pm

I don't see what they could be up in arms over, really. Sure I've crashed to desktop three times over the course of ten hours today....yeah...So say we all right? But even then, I was back in the game in less than 20 seconds from desktop.

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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:30 am

Reading the reviews I can kinda see where people are coming from.

These used to be fans of Fallout RPG and they feel that this game does an injustice to Fallout and isn't an RPG. And I suppose I can see where they are coming from. No skills and no repair, a SPECIAL system that isn't as rigid as it was with perks that are rather lackluster, these are not things I enjoy about the game.

A lot of people had hoped Bethesda would have included the best features from New Vegas and this seemingly hasn't happened at all.

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I also agree with the questionability of giving the player power armour 20 minutes into the game or allowing them to join the Brotherhood of Steel so easily.

I also see a lot of people writing that there isn't any interesting dialogue, characters or quests but I am not far enough into the game yet to comment on that.

So far for me the game has been enjoyable and the good outweighs the bad. But it is yet another step for Bethesda away from making open-world RPG's towards making a console game where everything is easy and everything can be done immediately.

I'm sure that as people will play more of the game that the average ratings will go up though. Right now we are seeing a lot of early reviews from dissapointed people and those who really like it or those who wish to make a more informed review haven't published theirs yet.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:07 pm

Many report that the world is empty-ish, quests and npcs are boring etc... is that true? Haven't gotten to see enough of it yet.

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Rachael
 
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:42 am

I have to agree with this. Yes, I do miss degradation.

I have not found the world "empty" and I like the quests well enough - equal to or slightly better than Fallout 3, but I only have 8 hours in so far.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:50 pm

Hmm, the npcs I have encountered so far are interesting. Similar to those of Fallout 3 and NV to be honest.

The world is definitely not empty though. From loot and environmental settings to various enemy types. Some areas are rather creepy too.

Now, there is one NPC which felt very out of place and just stupid - Mama Maya or somthing. She goes into a dialogue about seeing your future and destiny with some prophecy nonsense.

Also, the power armor quest and battle was WAY too soon which threw the story pacing off
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:24 am

I'm sure the score will jump up when Bethesda releases the patch that makes the game playable.

My negative rating came from the fact that when the specs were listed as "blah blah OR EQUIVALENT" they ACTUALLY meant "will only work with these very, VERY specific pieces of hardware, but it also might not for no discernible reason."

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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:09 am

The game is installing right now on my new computer and I am going into the game with lowered expectations than I did with Fallout 3. I have read up on the game and there are some things I am interested in and some I am not. I will seen in an hour or so how things go. I will only get a couple hours to play tonight. But as for reviews right now. I am sure as people play the game more and have time to write reviews the scores will increase. Some reviews I have seen so far are saying it isn't much better than Fallout 3 and there's a lot of bugs. I will see for myself soon. :fallout:

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:20 pm

Shameful.

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Eduardo Rosas
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:48 pm

Actually if you'd take the time to read though some of the better "negative" reviews (the ones that rate it a 6 or so) the points are valid:

"They removed the skills, simplified every aspect of the game, removing the wear of objects and the effect of SPECIALThey are fully commercialized."

All true. If fact, the only armor that needs "repair" is the power armor. What does that tell you? That you are supposed to wear power armor.

"One little thing I noticed is that a lot of the character models look out of place.The environments look great but, the models look kinda of off like they are made of clay(maybe this was a artist choice but it feels out of place in its environment)"

Also true.

"The creators didn't even attempt to create a coherent wasteland. Fallout is supposed to be a RPG about surviving a nuclear holocaust. In Fallout 4 however the game appears to be about nothing more than capping enemies in the head with an assortment of different weapons.
The design of the game has gone from being a game which tells a story. To simply a game about playing a game. Fifteen minutes after leaving the Vault butt-naked with nothing but a blue jumper suit and a pistol to your name, you will acquire a suit of high tech Power armor along with a Minigun to go along with it. Twenty minutes into the game you will be destroying some of the most powerful enemies in Fallout lore, the dreaded Deathclaw government experimented super soldier.
A few more hours into the game and you will have a mini nuclear rocket launch (The Fatman). An assortment of weapons from machine guns, pistols, sniper rifles, shotguns, auto pistols (list goes on).
Another hour into the game and you will meet the Elite Brotherhood of Steel, the futuristic faction of super soldiers who guard their high technology secrets furiously. Don't worry though because they'll be happy to recruit you into their ranks almost instantly. Thus giving you access to laser weapons and other high tech weapons. The recon leader of the Brotherhood is even nice enough to give you his prized possession, his legendary laser rifle. Yes he will give his most prized weapon to some random wastelander he met just ten minutes ago.
And that's Fallout 4 for you. It doesn't even attempt to make any sense. It has no character progression because your character will go from zero to hero before you even get ten percent into the game. And the games world is not a wasteland. It's just a game world which looks like a wasteland and has a bunch of loot thrown into it so that the console players can run around capping zombies and raiders without even trying."
All true. And spot on too. And if you read further, you'll find more valid points. It the game worth a rating of 0? Hell no. But it's not a 8.5 either. I'd say a fair review is 7. Because if it was just another game, people would not be complaining so much. But it isn't just another game. It's Fallout. And players waited years for this game.
I mean, is this the game us fans asked for? Really?
Bethesda deserves the rage.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:59 pm

Gamers are whiners. I agree with some critic, mostly related to the storytelling part, but rating this game a 1 or 0 on 10 is absolutely ridiculous.

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Sandeep Khatkar
 
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:21 am

Ahhh.. that doesn't look good at all... Is that what Todd meant when he said they were trying to make it more accessible to the crowd? Did they mean the COD crowd or what?

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:14 pm

Look, if you like the game more power to you. I'm glad!

Are there trolls out there posting zeroes for no reason? Of course! But there are also trolls posting 10's for no reason. This happens with EVERY popular game.

There's a reason Fallout 4 has such a low user score: a lot of people just don't like it.

Does that mean you can't like it? Of course not.

But please stop writing off our criticisms as trolling.

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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:35 am

I am one those guys that posted on metacritic, but I gave a 7, as much as I love the fallout series. It is more of less the same as fallout 3 it is the same engine after all ... but my main gripes are with the pc interface and keybindings really stopping me from enjoying the game. But hey mods will fix alot of the issues in time. Those reviews of 0 and 10 are both absurd. People should be honest you do have to admit Bethesda added some great stuff but have been quite lazy in regards to other aspects of the game. Maybe one day everyone will be honest and the companies will take the feedback of the players to improve future releases ..... (yeah I know when sheep will fly and stuff ....)

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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:00 am

Pros:

Fallout 4

Interesting world

Amazing graphics

Fallout 4

Crafting

Cons:

Mediocre perk chart

Strange story pacing

Loss of many mechanics that brought survival immersion

On the back of the box, it says there are "hundreds of perks"... No there's not. Just hundreds of ranks. There's only 70 perks, maybe 83 if you include the bobbleheads.

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Kelly Upshall
 
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:12 am

@Crag - Those are also very valid concerns/points. I'm actually disappointed to hear about the BoS being so easy to join.

Shame
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Ron
 
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:33 am

sadly some people are just idiots.

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Louise Lowe
 
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:51 am

It isn't perfect (that's why we have mods!) but it's already one of my favourite games of all time, and perhaps the best Bethesda game, so far.

So much to like. I will be thoroughly immersed for a very long time (when not dealing with real life occasionally), so thank you very much once again, FO4 creators and contributors.

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Darren
 
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:59 am

Why do people think the old skill system was better...? Really?

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