[Rude Gurl]

I think he meant Bitter Coast and Common Housing textures.

Yeah, but I've missed his Common Housing then. And I thought I had them all.

[Amysaurusrex]

Yeah, I'm a bit embarrassed but let's just say it doesn't look anything close to my game. Hm, did Connary make a replacer affecting Seyda Need? Must have missed that one (even when they were up).

He did, it was known as 'Imperial housing retex'. Seyda Neen houses are part of that. And there was his Bitter Coast replacer, too.

edit: Beaten to it.

I'm not sure but I may be using http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=7292 on top of Connary's replacer for the common houses. If not I forgot to do so and I should download it again!

Is it possible to toggle specific shaders on/off while ingame, with a function in the macro editor? I think depth of field would look cool in some shots, but I don't want it active during regular playing so it would be nice if I could switch if off ingame without disabling all other active shaders.

[Carlos Vazquez]

You gotta be kidding me :blink:

I like the greenhouse too. What mod, pls?

dh_furn_stores.esp

its a furniture store with a greenhouse on top.

one more pic:

waterfall: http://i33.tinypic.com/122f94z.jpg

[Stat Wrecker]

He did, it was known as 'Imperial housing retex'. Seyda Neen houses are part of that. And there was his Bitter Coast replacer, too.

Thanks - I have the Bitter Coast ones but must have missed the Imperial housing somehow. Anyway, it was mostly the trees that made me confused - looks like a different place completely.

I'm going to buy a new rig this winter and the one thing I'm looking forward to most is decking out Morrowind completely. More so than playing Fallout 3 and Bioshock in fact...

[Makenna Nomad]

dh_furn_stores.esp

its a furniture store with a greenhouse on top.

one more pic:

waterfall: http://i33.tinypic.com/122f94z.jpg

Beautiful. May I ask which MGE goodies and settings you use?

[Sarah Knight]

waterfall: http://i33.tinypic.com/122f94z.jpg

Where is this? Tamriel Rebuilt region?

(Active thread! :ahhh:)

[Johnny]

Anyway, it was mostly the trees that made me confused - looks like a different place completely.

Those are http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=5897
They don't hit the FPS too bad at all.

[Enie van Bied]

Where is this? Tamriel Rebuilt region?

(Active thread! :ahhh:)

it's just behind Balmora

[Stephanie I]

Beautiful. May I ask which MGE goodies and settings you use?

knx_ssao
knx_dof
sunshaft (if i remember correctly)
truebloom g6

textures are from different packs.. Connary's and many others.

the waterfall mod is called waterfall.esp.. just do a search on PES, i think i found it there

[Dark Mogul]

the waterfall mod is called waterfall.esp.. just do a search on PES, i think i found it there

Holy! Theer are three different mods that add a waterfall in the exact same place outside of Balmora.
But it looks like they all conflict with 'Illuminated Order'

[Jhenna lee Lizama]

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3783/mgescreenshot1z.jpg

I just now found an installation of Morrowind on my old hard drive that's been sitting around, it apparently works, my last save is from april 06 lol. It has an old version of MGE on it, but looking at everybody's screens it seems like it might need an update on some of this stuff.

Man, nostalgia. Walking around that place in the picture (I made Journey's End btw, if anybody remembers me, heh) that took like four months to make, it's crazy how much time I spent on this game. I havent done that much for one game since.

[[ becca ]]

Screenshot frenzy, it happens time to time.

part 1

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-CGI200.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-alienspecies59.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-barrel89.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-bump151.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-bump53.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-bump6.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-closer170.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-clouds194.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-coolhair.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-distance270.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-doorart234.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-doorart235.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-ebonhart19.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-error9.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-floor0.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-intersect.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-island31.jpg


part 2

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-mushroom23.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-mushrooms141.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-myfavorplace21.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-nights18.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-overcast75.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-rain100.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-rain106.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-rain72.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-rainpours111.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-random192.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-realism203.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-rocks.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-rocks213.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-rockywall220.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-ropeismissing81.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-scenery165.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-scenery176.jpg


part 3

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-shaderless1.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-shadows117.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-shadows249.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-shadows259.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-ship77.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-signs114.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-smiling267.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-sunset5.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-theriver54.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-therock47.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-theshop128.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-thetree13.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-thetrees4.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-thewall123.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-tiles90.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-tree244.jpg


last part

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-treerock158.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-trees23.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-underthemushroom67.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-underwaterrays34.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-underwaterrays38.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-underwaterrays47.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-vivec15.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-vivec16.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-vivec20.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-vivec71.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-whatisitsay0.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-wildlife129.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-wildlife2.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-wood86.jpg

PS. I divided into parts for easier viewing.
PPS. Shaders
Gimp(bloomless)
GPB(general purpose bump)
knux's SSAO
knux's DoF
Godrays
Ubershader
PPPS. Back then it was hard to find a good frame, now just 360 degree awesomeness...
PPPPS. Link to album, if you find it easier(I don't, so I post this way...)
http://s51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/?albumview=slideshow
PPPPPS. I wish I enabled shadows in CGI200 shot.

[Shiarra Curtis]

Screenshot frenzy, it happens time to time.

part 3

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/sc05/Morrowind-MGE-signs114.jpg

Nice Shots
What sign mod is that shot from?

[M!KkI]

What sign mod is that shot from?

Looks like http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=1314

[Tom]

GPB(general purpose bump)

Ubershader

I missed those somehow.. where are they from? also are you using the default settings in all the shaders?

[tegan fiamengo]

I missed those somehow.. where are they from? also are you using the default settings in all the shaders?

yes, please, never heard of those two

[Rich O'Brien]

Yes i've been looking for these two as well since i heard of them, never been able to find them. Always interesting to try new shaders

[Robert Jr]

http://i29.tinypic.com/ofzrz8.jpg

http://i25.tinypic.com/wk4jrt.jpg

knx_SSAO_V09
knx_DoF_V12
sunshaft_V001
truebloom_g6_3

@ 60 FPS (capped in .ini)

My http://i32.tinypic.com/33ld120.jpg http://i27.tinypic.com/2rh2qog.jpgMGE.

Absolutely Incredible you have this running at such a high FPS, what rig are you running?

Also I'm having a tough time finding sunshaft and a version of truebloom that will work with rev17 of mge.

[Bereket Fekadu]

Absolutely Incredible you have this running at such a high FPS, what rig are you running?

right now im using: C2D e8400 @ 4.1GHz, 4870x2 (stock speed), 4GB ram, Win7 x86.

At the time i took these screenshots the FPS was very good (58-60+) and i had crossfire working, now crossfire isnt working (no idea why), the FPS is like half (around 28-30 which, imo, is really bad). One time i got 15 FPS extra (!) just by changing mipmap filter to "none" instead of "linear" in MGE (IRL it shouldnt be an issue).. Its extremely diff?cult to pinpoint FPS "errors" with morrowind/MGE and ATI/crossfire and drivers. I'm sure many people could get twice of what they're having if they're just lucky enough to stumble on what's causing their low FPS.

[Brad Johnson]

Absolutely Incredible you have this running at such a high FPS, what rig are you running?

Also I'm having a tough time finding sunshaft and a version of truebloom that will work with rev17 of mge.

Try the Oblivion version: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?1fta1mixwin

right now im using: C2D e8400 @ 4.1GHz, 4870x2 (stock speed), 4GB ram, Win7 x86.

At the time i took these screenshots the FPS was very good (58-60+) and i had crossfire working, now crossfire isnt working (no idea why), the FPS is like half (around 28-30 which, imo, is really bad). One time i got 15 FPS extra (!) just by changing mipmap filter to "none" instead of "linear" in MGE (IRL it shouldnt be an issue).. Its extremely diff?cult to pinpoint FPS "errors" with morrowind/MGE and ATI/crossfire and drivers. I'm sure many people could get twice of what they're having if they're just lucky enough to stumble on what's causing their low FPS.

There are a few programs, and the 3d-mark type things may do this, that will run separate types of tests and tell you where the bottleneck is.

[Tom Flanagan]

There are a few programs, and the 3d-mark type things may do this, that will run separate types of tests and tell you where the bottleneck is.

I have 3d mark Vantage, but it doesnt really help with pinpointing problems like this, its very hard to know if its e.g a MGE setting + a driver setting that doesnt go well together + maybe a particular ati driver version that isnt optimal for Morrowind. Things like that.

How a 3D benchmark scores is often not that interesting but it can be useful to check that there isnt anything wrong with your system though, e.g do a comparison with 5-10 other persons that has the same setup as you, if you get a weaker score than they have, you'll know something is wrong.

[Robyn Lena]

I missed those somehow.. where are they from? also are you using the default settings in all the shaders?

GPB which is a very slow shader, you can get it from http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1035083&hl=.

Ubershader is a simple alternate version to my 'ENB to MGE shader'. You can get it from http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?s=&showtopic=1039077&view=findpost&p=15063474 I use it to simply add some desaturation.

[Amiee Kent]

I have been contacted by Russians, (:P, part of Unique Landscapes for Morrowind project, a breathtaking project it is).
Here what's their offer for Ascadian Isles, the bleeding wound of Morrowind(visually... IMO...).

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE01.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE02.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE03.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE04.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE05.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE06.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE07.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE08.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE14.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE15.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE16.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE17.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE18.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE19.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE20.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE21.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE23.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE24.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE25.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/vtastek/morrowind/Morrowind2009/ULM/Morrowind-MGE27.jpg

There is only one tree. But one hell of a tree.
I am giving my feedback.
Biggest problem is not the tree but how the engine renders the leaves. An important aspect of rendering leaves is backlighting, which is missing.
http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.com/2008/06/two-rules-of-foliage.html
http://blog.wolfire.com/2009/08/leaf-translucency/

Tree chunk has problems with UV maps, which I am no expert. One higher level of texture quality could be good. Morrowind renders one + 9/10 cells, in one cell there could be only a fixed number of trees, I don't think we should limit ourselves with todays hardware standards.
Leaves look amazing, it should be some mipmaps trick. I wanna know.

One more resource:
Direct link to PDF
http://www.kevinboulanger.net/publications/thesisKevinBoulanger.pdf

[matt oneil]

That tree is astounding. Nice shots!

[Sara Johanna Scenariste]

Edit: Barking up the wrong tree, I need to lurk moar...