I am pretty sure this will be after the Lone Wanderer. Should really build upon what we saw in Fallout 3. If not, what was the point?

I think it is important to note that the Midwestern Brotherhood of Steel isn't actually referred to that in game. They are simply the Brotherhood of Steel. I'm curious to know how Bethesda would address that. Wonder if they would just call themselves the Midwest anyways or make some conflict of name between the two groups if they did meet.

The name Bethesda game the MwBoS in the official Fallout 3 guide is "The Eastern Brotherhood"

I can foresee some dialogue between a Midwest Knight and a Lyon's Knight. The Midwest guy states they are the Eastern Brotherhood and the Lyon's guy confusingly states that they his chapter is further east though.

It may be worth noting that she's wearing T-51b armor here, something she didn't have in 3. This may very well be a Fallout 4 version of her.

Please god no more factions or characters travelling from one side of the country to the other for no apparent reason.

Let Bethesda create their own cast of characters instead of adopting more and more of the stuff created before them.

Pete Hines also just said it's 200 years after the bombs fell on the exact day they fell... It's either exactly 200 years after, or they're hiding something for whatever reason.

Tell that to them.

Regardless, I agree. It'd be nice to get an east coast game that lacks the Brotherhood and super mutants. The Pitt is a good example of a regional conflict that doesn't have to involve either. If they could do something like that on a full game-scale I'd be pretty satisfied. But if they're gonna reference old factions, MWBoS would be my first choice. It's been too long.

The Pitt and Point Lookout were awesome. More of that less copy/paste from other people's work.

I hope it is the MWBoS. I have been distracted from the the forums and Fallout news for the last couple of days. But from the bits and pieces of I have seen it could just be Lyons and his people with King Arthur in charge

For Barnaky!

Edit: That being said... I could see a connection between Lyons and the MWBoS. Since the The minority (those wanting change) were sent on that ill fated mission all those years ago.. One of those people was a man named http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Latham. He was the best of them. The MWBoS were those wanting change, they were people like Lyons and Veronica but when they got their freedom they ended up a brutal militarist organization in an attempt to keep order and peace.

Still the MWBoS were the ones wanting change but went down a dark path, one of militaristic totalitarianism. Lyons and his people some 80 or so years later also wanting change sent on a mission East with a sub goal of finding out what happened to the MWBoS create a new Brotherhood who try to avoid the same mistake as the MWBoS, to avoid the totalitarianism path that they went down.

As Barnaky himself said "Sometimes I wonder if the old Elders were right." I would love to see Lyons people deal with that. Trying to not be like the old BoS but at the same time trying not to be exploited by those they let join and end up becoming the MWBoS.

Edited for spelling.

My theory, it could be Lyons group but not the one from the Capital Wasteland. It would be a group that was with Lyons at the Pitt but split off for some reason and they went north to the commonwealth.

I also Hope it's Midwest BOS as well so we have a more morally grey group, instead of the happy black and White that Fallout 3 was with BOS.

If this is exactly 200 years after the War, I don't think it could be Lyon's group. If they were so pressed for members that they were recruiting locally, I doubt that they'd have the resources to send people to Boston in friggin' zeppelins.

Out of curiosity, doesn't a Brotherhood person mention that the journey to DC was made on foot in Fallout 3?

Another possibility is they're from the West Coast!

New Vegas seemed to empathize that the west coat Brotherhood was dying, so here's my theory, after the Second Battle of Hooverdam, hostilities between the Brotherhood and the NCR heat up again. At least some of the remaining west coast division decide their best course of option is to flee east. They regrouped with the Outcasts and left the DC area to the control of Lyon's group and looked to continue the real mission elsewhere.

Indeed probably because the last expedition to use airships was never heard from again. But that doesn't exclude the possibility of building new airships.

There is nothing to indicate its EXACTLY two hundred years.

It appears to be, as the armor is different. However, if this is the case then someone much more important may also be returning

http://m.imgur.com/ELwT07N

Could the legend return?

It could be MWBoS who found out about the last of the Maxsons in DC and built Airship and what not to go there, yet on way to DC they heard about Boston and the advanced tech and stopped there on the way. What makes all this speculation difficult is we don't even know the year of the damn game, and it is annoying they being secretive about it. The only reason to keep year secret is because it somehow involved the plot of the game. Otherwise just frigging say "It is 2277 or 2288", whatever.

I could see a regiment of the West Coast BoS making tracks Eastward.

Personally, I'd rather the Brotherhood of Steel not be present as a standalone faction. I think it'd be cooler to see remnants from the West clashing with members of the MidWest and Easter Brotherhood chapters.

As for the exactly 200 years thing, I was going off of this post.

I watched the interview and he does seem to suggest it is exactly 200 years from the day of the war. Which makes sense. You in Cryo sleep, so supposedly some computer sets it up, and awakens you, why would computer set it for 210 or 205 or 209 and not just 200? When he answered the question about people from FO3, his answer was "will we see people from previous FO games" then a shrug. So, he didn't say specifically FO3 when he shrugged, but games in general...

I dunno, I still fear it exactly 200 years, which means not jack diddly lore from FO3, although that probably means MWBoS, which as someone else pointed out, I think is a cop out. The only other sneaky thing I think they could do is pull a DAI and have the LW show up in game, and have FO4 take place just a few weeks or months after FO3.

I need to look up the date FO3 starts.]

August 17, 2277 is when FO3 starts.

So, if FO4 is Oct 23, then it 2 months after FO3 start...

That is not enough time for CWBoS to build airships, but I now wouldn't be surprised if it is MWBoS and we see CWBoS, and I wouldn't be surprised if we see the LW.

If its exactly 200 years... then MWBoS doesn't make sense either as you can ask Rothchild.

"Then where's the rest of the Brotherhood?" Rothchild responds on the West Coast except "There's also a small detachment in Chicago, but they're off the radar. Gone rogue. Long story." Chicago is a LOT further then Boston. If they know about THEM they'd know about the group up there.

Years ago Pete Hines has also said, Fallout 3 takes place thirty years after Fallout 2 when it is in fact 35.... so I'm not sure he could be trusted with dates. More likely it'd be an entirely new group. So they don't have to cannonize any events from previous games then its a group from a game they had nothing to do with making.

I would... unless the Mysterious Stranger is in an armored vault 101 jump suit instead of a trench coat. But in all seriousness the only character from a previous Fallout game I expect to see is Madison Li.... SHE DID leave for The Commonwealth afterall.

If the MWBoS is off the radar, Rothchild wouldn't know what they are up to. The CW BoS should know about the MWBoS no matter what, becuase the MWBoS were sent on their mission long before Lyons was sent on his. It isn't like Rothchild has some ESP powers and he can tell what MWBoS doing or what is going on in Boston. Nor would MWBoS have to travel through the CW, Pitt, or anywhere else we have been in FO3 to reach Boston, most direct route, is through Canada and NY, I know because I have driven it, and apparently the MWBoS would be flying.