Might build a new PC. Think it'll handle C2?

Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:10 pm

Here are the wonderful specs.

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 3.40GHz
XFX ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 XXX Edition
4GB DDR3 1333MHz Duel Channel
500GB 7200RPM HDD
700 Watt PS
Windows 7 Home 64-bit

Along with the other needed parts, this comes to a grand total of 999.91$ From TigerDirect! Saving A LOT of money by building it myself, along with my Dad

I'm loving what I've put up so far.
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sam westover
 
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:40 pm

It will run Crysis fine so it should run Crysis 2 just as well if not better. You might want to consider bumping up the graphics card to a HD5850 for a massive performance boost and to ensure maximum longetivity for the PC as a whole. Of course, depending on your monitor resolution this may not be necessary at all.
You can save a lot of money by building a PC yourself, so considering how little time it takes it's usually the best option, so good choice there.
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:02 pm

sounds like the beast of a system you have put together, just as a comparison, my old E-machine at entry level 2.8Gb, only needed upgrade of 2Gb Ram and a Nvidia GForce 5800, before the machine would run the game quite well, we are told that if your current pc ran Crysis, then you will be able to run Crysis2, Accordingly I didnt even need to build this new machine, but the experience and knowledge gained in the proccess is well worth it, nice one, and enjoy.
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:17 pm

It's been said that Crysis 2 will look better whilst perfoming better :) So if you're able to run Crysis, you won't have any trouble with Crysis 2! And your PC Seems to be very powerful, although a better video card wouldn't harm, currently it's a bottleneck.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:02 am

Also are you going to upgrade to 64bit, if im not mistaken, thats where the true difference is according to what I was told, and I truly saw a difference, apparenlty, on a 32 bit system ram is limited no matter how much you put in to around three Gb, and anything over that is not seen by the system I tried this and indeed found this to be the case, so I changed out the O.S. and saw a change, I would like to open that matter for further explanation by the community, and wish you luck, :-)
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:59 am

ok, i built the same thing for $868.91 not including delivery

XCLIO Wind Tunnel

Barracuda HDD 500GB 7200RPM

GIGABYTE GA-770T-USB3 Motherboard

XFX 5770

RIADMAX 700 Watt PSU 80 Plus Bronze Certified

G.SKILL 1333Mhz RAM 4x1GB

Phenom II X4 965

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit OEM

With that you can easily up the graphics card...

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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:22 am

And what my HD4850 1GB,C2Q Q6600,4Gb DDR2,Windows7 64bit
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:35 am

It'll run it on very high for sure, but I you could expect more then 4x anti-aliasing. I think that Cryengine 3 is just a console friendly Cryengine 2 that's bettter optamized, so I'd expect it to run similar to Warhead.
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:32 pm

Perhaps go for a 5850 or 5830, would be more future proof.

Not that we know about the requirements yet.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:55 am

I would go for a 5850 (iirc its not much more than the XXX edition and it is a much better performer at higher resolutions), Athlon X3 and (perhaps) a cheaper power supply. A 600 Watt PSU from a good company (PC Power n Cooling or Corsair) should be perfect, and you can overclock (or perhaps even unlock the 4th core in) the X3 for great performance for the price.

MSI also has a nice motherboard for ~$100 on newegg and I think amazon has a 1-day sale today on a WD 1.5 TB hdd for only $69 (65% off, I think - its a great deal).
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:02 am

i have posted a much cheaper price but with same equipment

also in game althon's are AWFUL

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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:51 am

[quote]I would go for a 5850 (iirc its not much more than the XXX edition and it is a much better performer at higher resolutions), Athlon X3 and (perhaps) a cheaper power supply. A 600 Watt PSU from a good company (PC Power n Cooling or Corsair) should be perfect, and you can overclock (or perhaps even unlock the 4th core in) the X3 for great performance for the price.

MSI also has a nice motherboard for ~$100 on newegg and I think amazon has a 1-day sale today on a WD 1.5 TB hdd for only $69 (65% off, I think - its a great deal).[/quote]

No, the 5770 XXX Edition is much better. It has a faster core clock, faster memory clock, Eyefinity and costs MUCH less.


[quote]ok, i built the same thing for $868.91 not including delivery

XCLIO Wind Tunnel

Barracuda HDD 500GB 7200RPM

GIGABYTE GA-770T-USB3 Motherboard

XFX 5770

RIADMAX 700 Watt PSU 80 Plus Bronze Certified

G.SKILL 1333Mhz RAM 4x1GB

Phenom II X4 965

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit OEM

With that you can easily up the graphics card...

Flamers[/quote]

Well, I'm not going to get a bunch of great parts, and then a whole lot of cheap junk parts. Not to mention, I want DDR3 RAM, and the parts ALL have to be compatible. The Motherboard has to support the memory
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:01 am

Your compter will handle crysis 2 if it can handle crysis/warhead.
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:51 pm

NIce computer. I reckon you could run crysis 2 well as the requirements for crysis 2 are lower than crysis 1 but it still has better graphics. Thats because they've optimised the game engine alot.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:00 am

sounds like a good build but i think that you should up the watts on the PS maybe like 800 or so so if anything ull have room for upgrades and if u like to show off ur PC with LED's that should handle all that
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:46 pm

[quote]No, the 5770 XXX Edition is much better. It has a faster core clock, faster memory clock, Eyefinity and costs MUCH less.[/quote]

Wrong. The 5770 XXX Edition is priced higher than the normal 5770 but provides no benefit. You can OC a stock to the same speeds. Factory overclocked cards are usually no better than the stock. They just give a false illusion of being better.Anyways, the 5850 is a much better card. With very high settings on Crysis 1 at 1920x1200 the card gets 21 FPS (from a benchmark online). With the same settings a 5850 gets 32 FPS. Performance isn't based on clock speeds.
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:49 pm

[quote][quote]No, the 5770 XXX Edition is much better. It has a faster core clock, faster memory clock, Eyefinity and costs MUCH less.[/quote]

Wrong. The 5770 XXX Edition is priced higher than the normal 5770 but provides no benefit. You can OC a stock to the same speeds. Factory overclocked cards are usually no better than the stock. They just give a false illusion of being better.Anyways, the 5850 is a much better card. With very high settings on Crysis 1 at 1920x1200 the card gets 21 FPS (from a benchmark online). With the same settings a 5850 gets 32 FPS. Performance isn't based on clock speeds.[/quote]

I prefer the 5770 because it does not throw my future PC up to about 1,400$. And, there is not much that the 5850 has over it. The clock speeds do in fact make a much bigger change. And, I do NOT want to overclock my card. Lowers life span
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:26 pm

If you're worried about O/C cards lowering the life span, why are you buying a factory O/C'd card? It's exactly the same outcome.

The 5850 is miles ahead of the 5770, regardless of clock speed, which at the end of the day, doesn't make that much of a difference.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3745/nvidias-geforce-gtx-465/4
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:17 pm

[quote]I prefer the 5770 because it does not throw my future PC up to about 1,400$. And, there is not much that the 5850 has over it. The clock speeds do in fact make a much bigger change. And, I do NOT want to overclock my card. Lowers life span[/quote]

According to those numbers in Crysis, the 5850 is a 50% improvement over the 5770. I would say that that justifies the price of a 5850 more than enough. The 5850 provides much more longevity as well with more upgrade-ability in say crossfire or something. The clocks make a difference of course but the hardware such as how many cores and what not the card has makes a much more substantial difference. Shinanigans is completely right about factory OC cards. They are the same as OCing it yourself. And really, OCing the card is hardly going to make a difference in the lifespan. You need to do some reading up before you buy a PC like this.
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Just running with the dx11 series gpu.. (GTX 465)
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:55 pm

[quote]If you're worried about O/C cards lowering the life span, why are you buying a factory O/C'd card? It's exactly the same outcome.

The 5850 is miles ahead of the 5770, regardless of clock speed, which at the end of the day, doesn't make that much of a difference.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3745/nvidias-geforce-gtx-465/4[/quote]

The 5850 is in fact not that far ahead of the 5770, and you are wrong in the fact that clock speed DOES make a much bigger difference. I am going to be building this with my Dad, and he is the one paying for it. We have little to money at all right now, and jacking the price of a hoping to be soon PC rig is NOT a good idea. I know what I want to do. OC is manual for the user. From TigerDriect the card does NOT come overclocked.

Oh, and one other thing. All of the 5850 cards I saw were above 300$ (WAY to much for me) and did NOT support EyeFinity, which is not much of a issue, but still is yet another thing lacking from the card. Although, I may end up switching the processor to a AMD X6 Black Edition 3.20GHz. 6 cores means more monitors, which I think would be great if Crysis 2 supports EyeFinity.


[quote][quote]I prefer the 5770 because it does not throw my future PC up to about 1,400$. And, there is not much that the 5850 has over it. The clock speeds do in fact make a much bigger change. And, I do NOT want to overclock my card. Lowers life span[/quote]

According to those numbers in Crysis, the 5850 is a 50% improvement over the 5770. I would say that that justifies the price of a 5850 more than enough. The 5850 provides much more longevity as well with more upgrade-ability in say crossfire or something. The clocks make a difference of course but the hardware such as how many cores and what not the card has makes a much more substantial difference. Shinanigans is completely right about factory OC cards. They are the same as OCing it yourself. And really, OCing the card is hardly going to make a difference in the lifespan. You need to do some reading up before you buy a PC like this.[/quote]

Sir, I have done more reading than humanly possible (I'm not human).

I know my PC's. I know that Shinanigans was entirely wrong when he said that the speed does not make much of a diffference, when in fact it does make a much bigger difference then he thinks it does. The core clock speed is important because it is the processor of the card, therefor, the faster the core(s), the faster the card preforms, thus, it will in fact preform much better. Then we have the memory clock. It is like the RAM, only dedicated. One always wants the RAM on their PC to be fast, and the same goes with cards. So, now you know (or should know) that the memory and core speed makes just as much difference. Overclocking the card not only speeds it up, but speeds it up above the set speeds, those which would keep the card from blowing itself up. Some cards are meant to be OCed, however that does not remove the fact that the cards life span will be lowered, and even slightly, that means that your card, as it begins to die, will lower in performance and will then shut down later, and you have to go fork up another 300$+ to get the same card, which will last only about 2 years.

I just want to get the 5770 because it fits my needs at a price I can pay, and keep the card for a long time. Not to mention, the card is a double card, so later, I can buy another and plop that in and my PC will run much better
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:40 pm

700w far to much 650 are enough then which mainboard.
and choose the 5850 or 5830.
and may X6 instead BE 965
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:33 pm

[quote]700w far to much 650 are enough then which mainboard.
and choose the 5850 or 5830.
and may X6 instead BE 965[/quote]

As I said above, the 5850 is too much $.
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:54 pm

[quote]The 5850 is in fact not that far ahead of the 5770, and you are wrong in the fact that clock speed DOES make a much bigger difference. I am going to be building this with my Dad, and he is the one paying for it. We have little to money at all right now, and jacking the price of a hoping to be soon PC rig is NOT a good idea. I know what I want to do. OC is manual for the user. From TigerDriect the card does NOT come overclocked.

Oh, and one other thing. All of the 5850 cards I saw were above 300$ (WAY to much for me) and did NOT support EyeFinity, which is not much of a issue, but still is yet another thing lacking from the card. Although, I may end up switching the processor to a AMD X6 Black Edition 3.20GHz. 6 cores means more monitors, which I think would be great if Crysis 2 supports EyeFinity.[/quote]

Did you look at the link i provided? I'd call 42 vs 27fps a significant difference.

Regarding OC'd vs non-OC'd performance, granted, i probably down-played it slightly but don't expect a GPU OC to deliver a world of difference, realistically you're looking at 10% at best.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3732/overclocked-our-custom-radeon-hd-5870-roundup/6

Lastly, ALL 5800 series (as low as 5400 series) cards support Eyefinity. What you're probably confusing yourself with is Eyefinity-3 vs Eyefinity-6, which is 3 monitor support vs 6 monitor support.

http://support.amd.com/us/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity-dongles.aspx

Good luck with the build :)
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:00 am

My specs are close to what your building and im confident it will run Crysis2 nicely if not maxed.

Amd Phenom 2 955 BE
Asus M4A78T-E
SuperTalent 4gb DDR3
Evga GTX 480
X-Fi xtrememusic
WD 1TB
Win 7 Pro x64
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