» Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:55 pm
[quote]If you're worried about O/C cards lowering the life span, why are you buying a factory O/C'd card? It's exactly the same outcome.
The 5850 is miles ahead of the 5770, regardless of clock speed, which at the end of the day, doesn't make that much of a difference.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3745/nvidias-geforce-gtx-465/4[/quote]
The 5850 is in fact not that far ahead of the 5770, and you are wrong in the fact that clock speed DOES make a much bigger difference. I am going to be building this with my Dad, and he is the one paying for it. We have little to money at all right now, and jacking the price of a hoping to be soon PC rig is NOT a good idea. I know what I want to do. OC is manual for the user. From TigerDriect the card does NOT come overclocked.
Oh, and one other thing. All of the 5850 cards I saw were above 300$ (WAY to much for me) and did NOT support EyeFinity, which is not much of a issue, but still is yet another thing lacking from the card. Although, I may end up switching the processor to a AMD X6 Black Edition 3.20GHz. 6 cores means more monitors, which I think would be great if Crysis 2 supports EyeFinity.
[quote][quote]I prefer the 5770 because it does not throw my future PC up to about 1,400$. And, there is not much that the 5850 has over it. The clock speeds do in fact make a much bigger change. And, I do NOT want to overclock my card. Lowers life span[/quote]
According to those numbers in Crysis, the 5850 is a 50% improvement over the 5770. I would say that that justifies the price of a 5850 more than enough. The 5850 provides much more longevity as well with more upgrade-ability in say crossfire or something. The clocks make a difference of course but the hardware such as how many cores and what not the card has makes a much more substantial difference. Shinanigans is completely right about factory OC cards. They are the same as OCing it yourself. And really, OCing the card is hardly going to make a difference in the lifespan. You need to do some reading up before you buy a PC like this.[/quote]
Sir, I have done more reading than humanly possible (I'm not human).
I know my PC's. I know that Shinanigans was entirely wrong when he said that the speed does not make much of a diffference, when in fact it does make a much bigger difference then he thinks it does. The core clock speed is important because it is the processor of the card, therefor, the faster the core(s), the faster the card preforms, thus, it will in fact preform much better. Then we have the memory clock. It is like the RAM, only dedicated. One always wants the RAM on their PC to be fast, and the same goes with cards. So, now you know (or should know) that the memory and core speed makes just as much difference. Overclocking the card not only speeds it up, but speeds it up above the set speeds, those which would keep the card from blowing itself up. Some cards are meant to be OCed, however that does not remove the fact that the cards life span will be lowered, and even slightly, that means that your card, as it begins to die, will lower in performance and will then shut down later, and you have to go fork up another 300$+ to get the same card, which will last only about 2 years.
I just want to get the 5770 because it fits my needs at a price I can pay, and keep the card for a long time. Not to mention, the card is a double card, so later, I can buy another and plop that in and my PC will run much better