Minotaurs and Mythical Creatures

Post » Wed May 02, 2012 11:18 pm

Let me add Nymphs up there...

How do Nymphs reproduce? They obviously just bang, but what do they bang?

In Greek myth, nymphs are the embodiment of a particular part of nature - a tree, a river, a rock, etc. They can be considered identical with the tree. So they don't reproduce in and of themselves, rather they exist as their tree exists, and cease to exist when it ceases to exist. New nymphs appear when trees drop seeds and sapling sprout, and disappear when the old tree dies. Their six (with mortals or with other spirits) is purely recreational (and symbolises the hedonism of nature versus the social constraints of civilisation).

To what extent that applies to TES, I don't know, but I imagine Tamrielic nymphs were intended to be the same as Greek nymphs when they were written into the games, and nothing in A Scholar's Guide to Nymphs contradicts this interpretation. They're the divine foundation of Mundus made manifest, I guess?
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 8:17 pm

The Nymph called him a mortal. I kind of assumed the Nymphs would be mortal. I also assume they don't just attack people on sight the way they did in Daggerfall. It was probably a gameplay thing.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 6:08 pm

In Greek myth, nymphs are the embodiment of a particular part of nature - a tree, a river, a rock, etc. They can be considered identical with the tree. So they don't reproduce in and of themselves, rather they exist as their tree exists, and cease to exist when it ceases to exist. New nymphs appear when trees drop seeds and sapling sprout, and disappear when the old tree dies. Their six (with mortals or with other spirits) is purely recreational (and symbolises the hedonism of nature versus the social constraints of civilisation).

To what extent that applies to TES, I don't know, but I imagine Tamrielic nymphs were intended to be the same as Greek nymphs when they were written into the games, and nothing in A Scholar's Guide to Nymphs contradicts this interpretation. They're the divine foundation of Mundus made manifest, I guess?

Sounds more like Spriggans.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 5:14 pm

horny breton men, who are never heard from ever again. No, I am not lying, that's pretty much what one will conclude with the research piece in Daggerfall. http://www.imperial-library.info/content/scholars-guide-nymphs

Out of.. curiosity, what would a male nymph be called?
And would their behaviour be similar to that of the female ones, I wonder.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 1:56 pm

Well, a male nymph would just be like a human man with a lot of testosterone.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 6:41 pm

Sounds more like Spriggans.

Well if trees have murderous, anthropomorphic, magical creatures associated with them then why shouldn't rocks or even animals? The only other example that comes to mind are river hags.
I think pretty much everything in the original post could have a place in Tamriel if it's given its own TES spin like minotaurs (otherwise it feels a bit cheap taking a unique mythical creature and making a whole species of it), but then turning High Rock into 'Shadows of the UK' might not be as fun as I think it sounds.

[Renard]

Don't tell me Tiber's Hans the Fox as well.

Out of.. curiosity, what would a male nymph be called?
And would their behaviour be similar to that of the female ones, I wonder.

No idea, but that's worth putting in TES VI just to see how the press, new players and Rockstar react.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 10:07 pm

To be honest, I think Male Nymph is an oxymoron.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 9:59 am

I believe in Greek mythology, satyrs were the nymphs' male counterparts.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 4:21 pm

No, Satyrs were goat-men, who were known for also being rapists (then again, almost male divinities were rapists) and general pranksters. Nymphs were only female, and were pretty much gods, but not like the Olympian ones. Nymphs in Greek mythology were more like the river/tree/rock/nature stuff incarnate.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 5:18 pm

Medusas are still canon. Vivec mentions Inverted Gorgons, who are snakes with human faces for scales. Gorgons are another word for Medusas.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 2:27 pm

I believe in Greek mythology, satyrs were the nymphs' male counterparts.

You're actually thinking terms for sixually promiscuous people. Females are nymphomaniacs; Males are satyromaniacs.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 6:20 pm

Why does there have to be a diagnosis for every personality flaw?
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 3:32 pm

Those aren't actual medical terms with actual currency with actual physicians, to my knowledge.

Anyways, Here's my almost-comprehensive take on TES generics:

Minotaurs: Descendents of Belharza, which is why they're found mainly in Cyrodiil [intercept code: rollicking in hyacinth quotient// The are also rightful heirs of sunder-seat, thus the real reason that Tiber redking'd the weird out of Cyrod//]
Goblins: Degenerate Mer (Ayleids espesh).

Imps: Remnants of the Legion cannon-fodder tasked with blitzing Alinor to distract their Logician corps from Numidium's advance.

Centaurs: Children of Mer who took Horse-y wives.

Medusae: Once upon a time, a Cult sacred to Dibella got uppity with a Coven devoted to Namira.

Ogres: Remember those Orcs that Topal sighted years before Veloth started looking east? Well...

Harpies: Would Hagravens by any other name be less revolting?
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 5:07 pm

I like to think Medusas are extinct then. Maybe they were all killed in Daggerfall... Jiub drove the cliffracers out...
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 9:00 am

It's funny to see such a topic about Minotaurs here while I posted recently http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1348297-unofficial-dlc-discussion-possible-spoilers-thread-4/page__view__findpost__p__20500416 assuming as a starting hypothesis that Humans and Minotaurs were allies during the Alessian revolution, and that Morihaus was originally a Minotaurian deity. However, a great weakness of my suggestion is that it provides no explaination for the bestiality of nowadays Minotaurs.

I think there is a way to affect deeply all the members of a given species, and that Minotaurs suffered from that, as did Dreughs and Falmers. There are other cases : the Chimers changed into Dunmers, the Nirnroots changed from yellow to blue, possibly Ogres and Gobelins and Orsimers. Also, it is well known that the shape of various Daedric species has changed through history.
(In http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1325612-unofficial-skyrim-dlc-discussion/page__view__findpost__p__19937052, I wondered whether the disappearance of Vivec could open a way for the recovery of the Dreugh civilization, and I even imagined that their Castles of glass and coral could host remnants of the presumably extinct Sotha house)

However, I lack the knwoledge needed in metaphysical lore to state my point with more clarity, so it's based on a quite shallow ground.

About the Centaurs... Well, I think both the Thalmor and the Psijic Order will be of prominent importance in the next ES game, so I think we'll hear again about Centaurs, as they know the Old Ways of Tamriel. I really hope to discover much lore about the various tribes of Centaurs in the next games.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 9:34 am

It's funny to see such a topic about Minotaurs here while I posted recently http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1348297-unofficial-dlc-discussion-possible-spoilers-thread-4/page__view__findpost__p__20500416 assuming as a starting hypothesis that Humans and Minotaurs were allies during the Alessian revolution, and that Morihaus was originally a Minotaurian deity. However, a great weakness of my suggestion is that it provides no explaination for the bestiality of nowadays Minotaurs.

I think there is a way to affect deeply all the members of a given species, and that Minotaurs suffered from that, as did Dreughs and Falmers. There are other cases : the Chimers changed into Dunmers, possibly Ogres and Gobelins and Orsimers. Also, it is well known that the shape of various Daedric species has changed through history.
(In http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1325612-unofficial-skyrim-dlc-discussion/page__view__findpost__p__19937052, I wondered whether the disappearance of Vivec could open a way for the recovery of the Dreugh civilization, and I even imagined that their Castles of glass and coral could host remnants of the presumably extinct Sotha house)

However, I lack the knwoledge needed in metaphysical lore to state my point with more clarity, so it's based on a quite shallow ground.

About the Centaurs... Well, I think both the Thalmor and the Psijic Order will be of prominent importance in the next ES game, so I think we'll hear again about Centaurs, as they know the Old Ways of Tamriel. I really hope to discover much lore about the various tribes of Centaurs in the next games.

I liked what you were saying quite a bit, but I'm not sure you're using that word correctly.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 8:30 am

I liked what you were saying quite a bit, but I'm not sure you're using that word correctly.

Oh, I am sorry. English isn't my mother tongue. I intended to mean "lack of intelligence".
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 2:52 pm

LOL bestiality. Hahahaha.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 5:03 pm



Oh, I am sorry. English isn't my mother tongue. I intended to mean "lack of intelligence".


'bestial nature' is a preferable phrase. 'bestiality' has certain.... Mephalic overtones, let's say.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 11:01 am

'bestial nature' is a preferable phrase. 'bestiality' has certain.... Mephalic overtones, let's say.

Indeed, I googled it and, err... realized what I said... :blush:
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 3:57 pm

but that's why it's so funny
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 9:26 pm

And here I was thinking that Minotaurs also [censored] goats.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 5:56 pm

You know what I don't get? minotaurs being called 'mino' taurs. Shouldn't they be called 'mori' taurs?
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 9:49 pm

Moritaurs. Damn Moritaurs. Gotta kill that unicorn.

I like the sound of that.
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Post » Wed May 02, 2012 6:52 am

Just a question... Is it possible that Morihaus was... a Dragon? I was surprised that Merry Eyesore the Elk wrote "Mor" instead of "Morihaus", but it draw my attention to the fact that now we know that Ysgramor was a Dragon, we also know that Mor is a Word of Power.

So... MOR IH AUS ?

If the Minotaurs (or Moritaurs, if you prefer, haha) are the progeny of a Dragon, they'd become suddenly much more interesting, and their bestial nature :tongue: (or lack of power) would be also much more mysterious.

Off-topic : do you think that some Minotaurs wear enchanted nose rings?

EDIT: I added Nirnroots to the list of changed species in my post above.
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