[relz] Mlox, A Tool For anolyzing And Sorting Your Load Orde : III - Morrowind

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:51 pm

Yes, me too - do you have any source on the order? I just assumed an order-of-release load order.

Pretty much as you, was going to have Colt17's mods after Max's original and whatever else (if anything) the readmes say.

mlox_user.txt:

Spoiler

; --- Personal use rules

[Note]
Cleaning the redundant entries (with TESPCD) with respect to its DN-GDR master leads to missing entries.
DN-GDRv1.esp

[NearEnd]
; make sure fog is updated in all cells
TLM - Ambient Light + Fog Update.esp

[Order]
; (chosen from conflict)
NPC Functionality.esp
LadyD_Reduced_Commentary.esp

[Order]
; (chosen from conflict)
Creatures.esp
Neo's Unique Creatures.esp

[Order]
; also being merged
Illuminated Windows.esp
k_weather.esp

[Order]
; (chosen from conflict)
NPC Functionality.esp
Creatures.esp

[Order]
; also being merged
DN-GDRv1.esp
Flora Glow 1.0.esp

[Order]
; also being merged
TLM - Light Sources (Clearer Lighting).esp
k_weather.esp

[Order]
; GUessing that the later additions would need to override
Windows Glow.esp
Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp
Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp
Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp

; --- General rules ----

[Conflict]
Both change the iGreetDistanceMultiplier -> choose load order as desired
NPC Functionality.esp
LadyD_Reduced_Commentary.esp

[Conflict]
Both modify creatures -> choose load order as desired
Creatures.esp
Neo's Unique Creatures.esp

[Note]
k_weather attaches some scripts to lights Illuminated Windows also changes -> merge
[ALL Illuminated Windows.esp
k_weather.esp]

[Conflict]
Both change the fAIFleeHealthMult -> choose load order as desired
Creatures.esp
NPC Functionality.esp

[Note]
Both cange flora_bc_mushroom_04 / 08 -> merge
[ALL Flora Glow 1.0.esp
DN-GDRv1.esp]

[Note]
k_weather attaches some scripts to lights TLM also changes -> merge
[ALL TLM - Light Sources (Clearer Lighting).esp
k_weather.esp]

; Wrye Patches ------- #

;--------------------- A
[Order]
; With Tribunal installed, they needn't be merged
adamantiumarmor.esp
Wrye Patches A.esp

[Conflict]
Both change armour -> merge
Better Daedric.esp
Wrye Patches A.esp

;--------------------- B
[Order]
; WP B naming is similar to Lgnpc's, so the latter can override
Wrye Patches B.esp
Lgnpc_SN.esp

[Conflict]
All change books -> merge
[ANY Book Jackets - Morrowind - BookRotate.esp
Book Jackets - Tribunal - BookRotate.esp
Book Jackets - Tribunal - BookRotate.esp]
Wrye Patches B.esp

;--------------------- C
[Conflict]
!-> merge SEPARATELY with Wrye Patches C.esp (BC and BC patch cannot be merged)
[ANY Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
BetterClothes_Patch.esp
BetterClothesForTB.esp]
Wrye Patches C.esp

[Conflict]
Both change clothes -> merge
[ANY UniqueFinery_NoRobe.esp
UniqueFinery.esp]
Wrye Patches C.esp

[Conflict]
Both change a common robe -> merge
DN-GDRv1.esp
Wrye Patches C.esp

;--------------------- M
[Conflict]
WP M and the other(s) change miscellaneous items -> merge
[ANY moons_soulgems.esp
master_index.esp
SirLuthor-Tools.esp]
Wrye Patches M.esp

[Conflict]
Both change a misc entry -> merge
DN-GDRv1.esp
Wrye Patches M.esp

;--------------------- W
[Conflict]
Both change the dwarven crossbow -> merge
DN-GDRv1.esp
Wrye Patches W.esp

[Order]
; WP W can safely overwrite AEA
AreaEffectArrows.esp
Wrye Patches W.esp

Thanks for posting that, I'll add it to my list of things to look at. Can't say when I'll get to it though :ninja:

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:23 am

Thanks to Dragon32 we have another substantial update: mlox-data_2010-10-25.7z
available from the usual place: http://code.google.com/p/mlox/downloads/list

NEW
Alchemy Balance [Beancounter501]
The Archives [Lyrian]
Ascadian Rose Cottage [Korana]
Balrog Race [Richard "Raptor" Powell]
Balmora Expanded and Forested MW compatibility [Sintek]
Bathhouse in Vivec [ayse]
Better Heads Modular [Motoki, et. al.]
BloodMoon-FIX 1.2 [Misty Moon]
Cali's Clothing 1.2 [Calislahn]
Clannfear Sprite [PhyntosWasp]
Cliffracer-FIX [Misty Moon]
Clothing Vendor 1.2 [Silaria]
Disturb the Dead 3.31 [zappara]
Disturb the Dead Addons 2.0 [zappara]
Dress Pack [Baratheon79]
Explorers 2.5 [Lord Lionmane]
Explorers Addons 1.1 [zappara]
Exquisite Robes II [WizBang]
Foliage Season [ayse]
Fort Argonia [Dak-Hamee]
French Maid Outfit [Drakron]
Funkys Summer House [Richard Beveridge]
Graphic Herbalism - Morrowind Crafting Patch [???]
High Seas Trader [Max Yue]
The Island [Lonnie]
Kimonos [Opethgirlie]
Lord Alt Tab, the trader [James Leighton (Lord Alt Tab)]
Propylons 1.1 [Charles Cooley]
Re-Animated Morrowind Rat [PhyntosWasp]
Respawns [Zenethor]
Seasons [TheLys]
Sell & Sail Galleon [Emberwolf and Solanaceae]
Spider Swords [Silaria]
Suran Underworld 2.5 [Matthew]
Thigh-High Boots [Durgoth]
Tight Dresses [Calislahn]
Toggle Sneak 1.1 [Yacoby]
Ultimate Clothing Mod - Shirts [Silaria]
Ultimate Kilts [Silaria]
Usagi of the Moon [???]
Vikings [Misty Moon]
Windmill in Caldera [ayse]
Wrye World [Wrye]

UPDATED
Plugins using Deprecated Leveled List Functions on gamesas lists
Brother Juniper's Twin Lamps [Brother Juniper]
DNGDR - Darknut's Greater Dwemer Ruins [Darknut]
Erengard Mines-MC Compatible [Graphite and Denina]
Fishing Academy Mod v2.0 [MADMAX]
Graphic Herbalism / Expanded Sounds Patch [philologos]
Hold It 1.6 [Danae]
Kwerner Complex Plugin - Version 1.01 [Stabbey_the_Clown]
Master Index Journalfix [DeusXMachina]
Necessities of Morrowind 3.0 (NOM) [Taddeus]
Rise of House Telvanni [Pozzo, Karpik777, bhl et al.]
Sri's Alchemy [Srikandi]
Starstone Shields [Wulfgar]
Water Level Fix [Taddeus]
Wilderness Sounds [The Puma Man]

In addition, a number of [Conflict] rules were fixed, and misspellings of 'Merged_Objects.esp' and 'UL_RoHT_1.4_Compatibility.esp'.

As always, thank you for trying mlox, and if you find any questionable or missing advice, let us know and we'll make an update.

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:09 pm

As of this update, mlox is telling me about the MasterIndexJournalfix I should use. However, the page it sends me to refuses to let me download the mod, citing this error: "Error: Your session ID does not match the session ID for this download link. If you are following this link from our site, please report it to the admin.. If you believe this to be in error, please quote the above error and report this to the admin"

I hope this isn't the only site with the mod. You should probably see if this is something that's happening to the site of if its just limited to me.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:10 am

As of this update, mlox is telling me about the MasterIndexJournalfix I should use. However, the page it sends me to refuses to let me download the mod, citing this error: "Error: Your session ID does not match the session ID for this download link. If you are following this link from our site, please report it to the admin.. If you believe this to be in error, please quote the above error and report this to the admin"

I hope this isn't the only site with the mod. You should probably see if this is something that's happening to the site of if its just limited to me.

Try refreshing the page and as soon as it's refreshed try and download again. I think Fliggerty's set up a quite aggressive session timeout for Morrowind Modding History.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:06 am

Try refreshing the page and as soon as it's refreshed try and download again. I think Fliggerty's set up a quite aggressive session timeout for Morrowind Modding History.

No, that's not helping. Still can't download it.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:53 am

No, that's not helping. Still can't download it.

Ah, shame. Try posting at Great House Fliggerty.

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:54 pm

I reported a broken link so the admin should know soon.

Also, here's something I keep overlooking in mlox, an issue concerning Antares' Big Mod.

[PATCH] !!"MISSING(Antares' Big Mod 4 - MCA 5.2 - patch.esp)" for: [ALL   [ANY "MISSING(Antares' Big Mod 4.esp)", "Antares' Big Mod 5.esp"],   'MCA.esm'] | "Some functions of ABM, if used with NPC from MCA, will crash the game. With this patch, these new functions are not available for NPCs from MCA." | (Note that the patch works with version 5 of Antares' Big Mod also). | (Ref: "Antares' Big Mod 4 - MCA 5.2 - patch - README.txt")

I have ABM5, and the MCA 6.0 patch for it, but it still keeps telling me about Big Mod 4 and its MCA 5.2 patch for whatever reason.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:40 am

As of this update, mlox is telling me about the MasterIndexJournalfix I should use. However, the page it sends me to refuses to let me download the mod, citing this error: "Error: Your session ID does not match the session ID for this download link.

I got the same problem, but found an alternative link (do not know of different versions): http://www.rihla.info/tes/01_mods/mi_journalfix/mi_journalfix.html

E: Of course, forgot to add: latest update - very nice, thanks Dragon32 and john.moonsugar!

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:27 pm

I reported a broken link so the admin should know soon.

There's a download count of 1 so I don't think it's a broken link. Not sure if you need to sign up the site to download or not...

I got the same problem, but found an alternative link (do not know of different versions): http://www.rihla.info/tes/01_mods/mi_journalfix/mi_journalfix.html

Thanks for that, added that as a mirror on MMH.

Also, here's something I keep overlooking in mlox, an issue concerning Antares' Big Mod.

[PATCH] !!"MISSING(Antares' Big Mod 4 - MCA 5.2 - patch.esp)" for: [ALL   [ANY "MISSING(Antares' Big Mod 4.esp)", "Antares' Big Mod 5.esp"],   'MCA.esm'] | "Some functions of ABM, if used with NPC from MCA, will crash the game. With this patch, these new functions are not available for NPCs from MCA." | (Note that the patch works with version 5 of Antares' Big Mod also). | (Ref: "Antares' Big Mod 4 - MCA 5.2 - patch - README.txt")

I have ABM5, and the MCA 6.0 patch for it, but it still keeps telling me about Big Mod 4 and its MCA 5.2 patch for whatever reason.

There is no version number in MCA.esm's filename of plugin header. Versions 5.0, 5.1, 5.2 (both The Undead-compatible and not) and now 6.0 and 6.1 are just called "MCA.esm"

So, what we've been doing is changing the rules to identify the different versions by the size of the files. This hasn't been done in this case. mlox is reporting things correctly (i.e. you do have "MCA.esm" and you do have "Antares' Big Mod 5.esp" and you do not have "Antares' Big Mod 4 - MCA 5.2 - patch.esp") what needs to happen is for all the rules to be updated to do this size check for MCA versions 5.0, 5.1, 5.2 (both The Undead-compatible and not), 6.0 and 6.1

And then there's all the addons that people have made. Believe me this isn't trivial. It's on my list...

I
E: Of course, forgot to add: latest update - very nice, thanks Dragon32 and john.moonsugar!

You're welcome

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:16 am

[REQUIRES]
!!!'UL_AshArmor_DivineDomina.esp' Requires:
> [ALL "Uvirith's Legacy_Final_2.0.esp", 'MISSING(Divine_domina_part_1.esp)']
| This add-on for Stuporstar's "Uvirith's Legacy" will suit up the female version of Ash-Kosh with armor from Jeremy McGuinn's "Divine Domina" series.
| (Ref: "Uvirith's Legacy_README.txt")
| [Note that you may see this message if you have an older version of one
| of the pre-requisites. In that case, it is suggested that you upgrade
| to the newer version].

I use Taddeus' Armor Balancing mod (the full version) and Divine Domina is integrated into this mod.

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:51 pm

Getting an error on startup.

mlox.py 0.57 [mlox-base 2010-10-25 11:39:07 (UTC)] (pl/cp1250)Python Version: 2.5wxPython Version: 2.8.0.1Traceback (most recent call last):  File "mlox.py", line 1797, in     main()  File "mlox.py", line 1707, in main    mlox_gui().start()  File "mlox.py", line 1585, in start    self.anolyze_loadorder(None)  File "mlox.py", line 1574, in anolyze_loadorder    self.highlight_warnings(self.txt_msg)  File "mlox.py", line 1516, in highlight_warnings    low = rt.TextAttrEx()    ; low.SetBackgroundColour(wx.Colour(125,220,240))AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'TextAttrEx'

mlox stills eems to run, but shows no current or proposed load order (the fields are empty).

EDIT: Standalone .exe version works fine, but the python version keeps getting that error no matter how many times I reinstall. Please check if it was just on my end or if the files themselves are f***ed.

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:02 pm

Getting an error on startup.

mlox.py 0.57 [mlox-base 2010-10-25 11:39:07 (UTC)] (pl/cp1250)wxPython Version: 2.8.0.1

EDIT: Standalone .exe version works fine

The version of wxPython you have installed is not the one the mlox documentation tells you that you need (2.8.7.1). If you install that, I believe that will fix your problem. The standalone version was created so that people would not have to worry about installing the correct pre-requisites, so if that works, it might be best if you just used that.

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:42 pm

Getting an error on startup.

mlox.py 0.57 [mlox-base 2010-10-25 11:39:07 (UTC)] (pl/cp1250)

mlox stills eems to run, but shows no current or proposed load order (the fields are empty).

EDIT: Standalone .exe version works fine, but the python version keeps getting that error no matter how many times I reinstall.

I suggest that you abandoned the python based version of mlox and use mlox.exe instead, but you can't "Update" your LO in mlox.
You should use Melchor's http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1106095-wrye-mash-stand-alone/ (python isn't required) to handle your mods in Morrowind.

@john.moonsugar: I guess you didn't notice Melchor's http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1106095-wrye-mash-stand-alone/page__view__findpost__p__16639403 about the language issue I've struggle with for a long time now. :read:

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:46 am

@john.moonsugar: I guess you didn't notice Melchor's http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1106095-wrye-mash-stand-alone/page__view__findpost__p__16639403 about the language issue I've struggle with for a long time now. :read:

He notified me of that fix, thanks. I was planning on trying to see if I could go beyond that and ensure that any possible character encoding could be displayed correctly, but I haven't had time to look at it yet.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:58 am

I suggest that you abandoned the python based version of mlox and use mlox.exe instead, but you can't "Update" your LO in mlox.
You should use Melchor's http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1106095-wrye-mash-stand-alone/ (python isn't required) to handle your mods in Morrowind.

I'm confused. Why is the .exe better than the python version? And I'm very confused when you say you can't update your load order in mlox. Informing you of why you'd want to change your load order, then actually changing it, is the entire point of mlox if I understand it correctly.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:55 am

I'm confused. Why is the .exe better than the python version? And I'm very confused when you say you can't update your load order in mlox. Informing you of why you'd want to change your load order, then actually changing it, is the entire point of mlox if I understand it correctly.

I assume that you have a non-US OS (XP/Vista/Win7) installed on your computer. Correct?

If so, you see I know there is a language issue with the update function in mlox and once you click on the "Update" button in mlox it will crash.

You can run mlox, but cannot http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/6642/mloxmaxgui.png inside of mlox (if there were aything to update).
If mlox detect anything in your LO that needs to be updated then you must redate every mod that needs to be sorted in Wrye Mash.
If you find Wrye Mash confusing you can always use Yacoby's http://yacoby.silgrad.com/MW/Mods/Reordermods.htm utility to change your LO manually.

The mlox.exe is much better, because you don't need to install python, which is required with the mlox.py version.

Both Wrye Mash Stand Alone (WMSA) and mlox.exe (non-python) has the same advantage against the required python based version of mlox.py and Wrye Mash. That's the reason I suggested it in the first place.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:02 am

He notified me of that fix, thanks. I was planning on trying to see if I could go beyond that and ensure that any possible character encoding could be displayed correctly, but I haven't had time to look at it yet.

That's okay with me and please don't push your self to hard. :wink_smile:

Thanks Dragon32 and john.moonsugar for your hard with mlox. :clap:

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:05 am

I assume that you have a non-US OS (XP/Vista/Win7) installed on your computer. Correct?

Oh! No, my OS is US. But it is quite likely the person you were replying to did have non-US OS. I thought your advice was for everyone; please accept my apologies for the misunderstanding.

(I like having the Python version because I can fiddle with the code if I feel like it... but I imagine that's only true for a small subset of people.)

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:39 am

Oh! No, my OS is US. But it is quite likely the person you were replying to did have non-US OS. I thought your advice was for everyone; please accept my apologies for the misunderstanding.

(I like having the Python version because I can fiddle with the code if I feel like it... but I imagine that's only true for a small subset of people.)

I see. That's nothing to talk about and it's okay with me.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:04 am

I think this is wrong, because no matter what I do this message still appears.
It seems that mlox doesn't check if the required plugin is found or not.

!!!'[VER = 1.1109 sris_alchemy_bm.esp]' Requires:> 'MISSING(Sri Alchemy BM List Patch.esp)'_057_ Sris_Alchemy_BM.esp_058_ Uvirith's Legacy_Final_2.0.esp_061_ UL_Srikandy_patch.esp

That's Srikandi's Alchemy Bloodmoon mod with the patch that's needed for Stuporstar's UL 2.0 mod and I've installed that patch as you should. It has not happen before. I try to find Sri Alchemy BM List Patch so please igonre this if it's not relevant

EDIT: I've just installed DN-GDRv1, NoM 3.0, AshlanderTentDX and all of them needs to be corrected in the masterlist for mlox, because both DN-GDRv1 and AshlanderTentDX mod needs to be updated with NoM 3.0 not only NoM 2.13 (detect both version)
In the NoM 3.0 readme it's pointed out that Water Level Fix - Full must be loaded after NoM 3.0, but mlox not detect that specific loadorder

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:04 pm

I think this is wrong, because no matter what I do this message still appears.
It seems that mlox doesn't check if the required plugin is found or not.

!!!'[VER = 1.1109 sris_alchemy_bm.esp]' Requires:> 'MISSING(Sri Alchemy BM List Patch.esp)'_057_ Sris_Alchemy_BM.esp_058_ Uvirith's Legacy_Final_2.0.esp_061_ UL_Srikandy_patch.esp

That's Srikandi's Alchemy Bloodmoon mod with the patch that's needed for Stuporstar's UL 2.0 mod and I've installed that patch as you should. It has not happen before. I try to find Sri Alchemy BM List Patch so please igonre this if it's not relevant

The patch mlox is talking about is nothing to do with Uvirith's Legacy, it is http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8761.

EDIT: I've just installed DN-GDRv1, NoM 3.0, AshlanderTentDX and all of them needs to be corrected in the masterlist for mlox, because both DN-GDRv1 and AshlanderTentDX mod needs to be updated with NoM 3.0 not only NoM 2.13 (detect both version)
In the NoM 3.0 readme it's pointed out that Water Level Fix - Full must be loaded after NoM 3.0, but mlox not detect that specific loadorder

Thanks. We'll try to improve NOM 3 support in the next release of the rule-base. It's complicated!

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:57 pm

Ashlander Tent DX should have rules for Nom 2.13 and Nom 3.0 in the current mlox_base.txt. Although it's missing a Requires rule for the NoM 3.0 addon. What's the problem you're seeing?

As to the Sri's Alchemy message do you get this text:

You are missing "Sri Alchemy BM List Patch". "Sris_Alchemy_BM.esp" (Version 1.1109) uses deprecated AddToLev* function to modify gamesas leveled lists.
For an explanation of why the functions AddToLev*/RemoveFromLev* are deprecated, please see: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tes3Mod:Leveled_Lists
Some patches may be available at that link.
You can also get a replacement Sris_Alchemy_BM.esp that includes the patch here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20882

I think that explains things pretty well, it links directly to a replacement ESP and also links to the UESP page that in turn links to Wrye's patch plugin.

Is there any rewording you'd suggest?

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:16 am

I think there is nothing more to be said and thanks both of you.

» Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:17 pm

Hi,
when I try to reorder the load order with mlox (.exe file) i get this error:

mlox.exe 0.57 [mlox-base 2010-10-25 11:39:07 (UTC)] (it/cp1252)
Python Version: 2.5
wxPython Version: 2.8.7.1

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "mlox.py", line 1600, in on_update
File "mlox.py", line 1566, in anolyze_loadorder
File "mlox.py", line 1335, in update
File "mlox.py", line 1245, in update_mod_times
File "mlox.py", line 210, in find_path
File "ntpath.pyo", line 62, in join
WindowsError: [Error 87] Uncorrect parameter

And with the .py version I get this:

mlox.py 0.57 [mlox-base 2010-10-25 11:39:07 (UTC)] (it/cp1252)
Python Version: 2.5
wxPython Version: 2.8.7.1

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "H:\Giochi\The Elder Scrolls\Morrowind\Mlox\mlox.py", line 1600, in on_update
self.anolyze_loadorder(None)
File "H:\Giochi\The Elder Scrolls\Morrowind\Mlox\mlox.py", line 1566, in anolyze_loadorder
lo = loadorder().update(fromfile)
File "H:\Giochi\The Elder Scrolls\Morrowind\Mlox\mlox.py", line 1335, in update
self.update_mod_times(new_order_truename)
File "H:\Giochi\The Elder Scrolls\Morrowind\Mlox\mlox.py", line 1245, in update_mod_times
os.utime(self.datadir.find_path(p), (-1, mtime))
File "H:\Giochi\The Elder Scrolls\Morrowind\Mlox\mlox.py", line 210, in find_path
return(os.path.join(self.dir, self.files[f]))
File "C:\Python25\lib\ntpath.py", line 91, in join
if path[-1] in "/\\":
WindowsError: [Error 22] Uncorrect parameter

How can I get it working?
Thanks

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:54 am

Hi,
when I try to reorder the load order with mlox (.exe file) i get this error:

How can I get it working?
Thanks

I'm afraid you won't be able to do that with this version of mlox, because there is a language issue of those with a non-US OS installed. I know john.moonsugar is already aware of this issue and his trying to fix it in the next version of mlox.

However you can still use it, but not to update your loadorder in mlox as long this issue is present.

I suggest that you run mlox as usual just to see if there is any messages to deal with, but you must use http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1068986-wrye-mash-thread-5/ or http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1106095-wrye-mash-stand-alone/ and redate the mods manually. :yes: