Actually updates happening less frequently is an even better reason to have them. As people will check less and less often. Yes I'd like an auto updater pretty please

Can it check for database and mlox version updates, as well as automatically download them and install them? Yes, I am that lazy and shiftless.

Okey dokey, I will see about adding an auto-updater in the future. It probably won't happen real soon. But sometime

That is a great idea, thanks for doing that.

Whilst we're talking about features... :ninja:

How about some kind of mod name aliasing? It's done by a CSV in http://wrye.ufrealms.net/Wrye%20Mash.html#ModNameAliasing. I've a few mods that I've edited and renamed so having the ability to tell mlox about them would stop them appearing in the conflict pane and also add them to the load order rules. Maybe the same file could be used (if there's some kind of IF EXIST check available...)?

Oh, and I've been wanting to use the size predicate. Not sure about the Linux world but when examining file properties in the Windows world there's "size" and "size on disk" I assume that "size" is what I need?

Would it be better to be able to tell mlox to just stop griping about a given warning? For example, maybe you could select a warning in the warning pane, right click and select "Ignore this warning in the future". That might be easier for people to use, although it might not be exactly what you're looking for. In any case, I'll add looking into this for a future version.


Oh Windows .... I had to start up a Windows session to check. Indeed, it appears that "Size" give the actual size in bytes.

Size is the size in bytes
Size on disk is the actual space the file takes up. How much extra depends on cluster size. Cluster size is dependant on partition size and partition size. With ntfs it should be either 2kb or 4kb.

That'd cover warnings for sure, but any renamed plugins won't pick up the suggested ordering rules... I think that people who're editing and renaming plugins would be fairly tech savvy and be able to handle manually editing a CSV file. And if there's one already being used by Mash then it's just a case of reading mlox_data then the CSV and substituting plugin names. See, it's easy when I type it
Thought so, thanks for clearing it up. And Yacoby.

Forgive me for double posting but this will be quite a large post.

I discovered a note I made myself to disable "Colony Spriggan Fix.esp" and wondered where that came from. Searching around led me to http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0.

So... some more rules for mlox!

First off, additional rules for the Morrowind Patch Project (I've searched through mlox_base.txt and I'm pretty sure I'm not duplicating, unlike with aedroth's BM Wolf Greaves Fix I posted earlier )
I've added Conflict rules and added to the "big list" of obsoleted plugins

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; @MPP [TES Morrowind Community, ThePal, Baldurdash, and quorn][...][Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Ebony Greaves (TommyKhajiit). This fix has been superseded by Sapphron's Ebony Armor Fixes v1.1 that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmacsEbonyGreaves.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Bal Molagmer Quests (HappyHannah). This fix was superseded by Thepal's Unofficial Morrowind Patch v1.6.3b that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmBal Molagmer Fix.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Buoyant Class Fix (Shiva7663). This fix has been superseded by Shiva7663's Bugfix01 that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmBouyantClassFix.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Sliver's Devil Tanto Fix (Sliver). This fix was superseded by Thepal's Unofficial Morrowind Patch v1.6.3b that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmClean Devil_Tanto_Bug_Fix.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Colony Spriggan Fix (Falnor). This fix was superseded by Thepal's Unofficial Morrowind Patch v1.6.3b that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmColony Spriggan Fix.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Dren Plantation Faction Tweak (Shiva7663). This fix has been superseded by Shiva7663's Bugfix01 that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmDrenFactionTweaks.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Fast Eddie Fix (Shiva7663). This fix has been superseded by Shiva7663's Bugfix01 that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmfast_eddie_fix.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Female Ice Gauntlet Fix (Lee Matthias). This fix was superseded by Thepal's Unofficial Morrowind Patch v1.6.3b that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmFemale Ice Gauntlet Fix.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes False Incarnate Fix (Ciante). This fix was superseded by Thepal's Unofficial Morrowind Patch v1.6.3b that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmfix_false_incarnate.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Glass Arrow Fix (GlassBoy). This fix was superseded by Thepal's Unofficial Morrowind Patch v1.6.3b that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmGlass arrow fix.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Gnisis Guard Fix (Puma Man). This fix was superseded by Thepal's Unofficial Morrowind Patch v1.6.3b that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmGnisis Gaurd Fix.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Master Trainers Fix (HitokiriOTD). This fix was superseded by Thepal's Unofficial Morrowind Patch v1.6.3b that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmMaster Trainer Fix v.01.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Master Aryon Fix (Robin). This fix was superseded by Thepal's Unofficial Morrowind Patch v1.6.3b that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmmilyn_faram_fix_0529.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Quest Fix (emerald avatar). This fix was superseded by Thepal's Unofficial Morrowind Patch v1.6.3b that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmQuest Fix.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Golena Sadri Hidden Player Fix (Emprint). This fix was superseded by Thepal's Unofficial Morrowind Patch v1.6.3b that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmSadriHiddenPlayerFix.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Sadrith Haunting Fix (Robink). This fix was superseded by Thepal's Unofficial Morrowind Patch v1.6.3b that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmSadrith_Haunting_Fix_0530.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Shakti's Secret Masters Fix v1.1c (Shakti). This fix was superseded by Thepal's Unofficial Morrowind Patch v1.6.3b that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmshakti_secret_masters_fix.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes God 2.0's Telvanni Quest-Fix (God 2.0). This fix was superseded by Thepal's Unofficial Morrowind Patch v1.6.3b that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmTelvanni Quest fix v.1.0.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Tel Fyr Amulet Fix v1.0 Final (Zobator). This fix was superseded by Thepal's Unofficial Morrowind Patch v1.6.3b that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmTel_Fyr_Amulet_Fix.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Trebonius-Antabolis Fix (FatherFrost). This fix was superseded by Thepal's Unofficial Morrowind Patch v1.6.3b that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmTreboniusAntabolisFix_0606.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Vampire Levitation Fix (Kal Choedan). This fix was superseded by Thepal's Unofficial Morrowind Patch v1.6.3b that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmvampfix.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Word Use Fix (PCC a.k.a. Blockhead). This fix was superseded by Thepal's Unofficial Morrowind Patch v1.6.3b that in turn has been superseded by the MPP. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind  [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmword_use_fix.esp[...][Note] ! All of these plugins are either included in, or the problems they address are ! also addressed by the latest MPP by quorn [Morrowind Patch v1.6.4]. It is ! recommended that you replace them with the MPP: ! [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=7347"]http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View...ail&id=7347[/url] ! [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=4519"]http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.ph...ls&lid=4519[/url]ArchMage_Fix_0604.espBal Molagmer Fix.espBM-Armor-FIX.espBMFemArmorFix.espBloodmoonAmmoFix.espBloodmoonQuickFixes-LD.espBook Placement Fix - Bloodmoon.espBook Placement Fix - Morrowind.espBook Placement Fix - Tribunal.espBouyantClassFix.espBrittlewind Fix.espClean Devil_Tanto_Bug_Fix.espClean_Templar_Pauldron_Fix_v11.espClean Templar Pauldron Fix.espColony Spriggan Fix.espCrusader Class Fix.espDome of Serlyn fix.espDrenFactionTweaks.espEbonheart Warehouse Fix.espEbony Armor Fixes.espExcuseMe.espFactor_fix.espFemale Ice Gauntlet Fix.espGhostgate_Shrine_fix.espGlass arrow fix.espGnisis Gaurd Fix.espHasphatsBooks.espMaster Trainer Fix v.01.espMorrowind Patch v1.6.3.esmNerevarine Greeting tweaks.espNoLore Solstheim.espPelagiad Fix.espPieces of the Blade Fix.espQuestfix-1.2.espQuest Fix.espRalen_Hlaalo_reward_fix.espRing Texture Fix.espSadriHiddenPlayerFix.espSadrith_Haunting_Fix_0530.espSecretMasterFix.espSnow Bear boot fix.espSolstien_undialog.espSt Llothis Fix.espTelvanni Guard Fix.espTelvanni Quest fix v.1.0.espTelvanni_Archmagister_Fix.espTel_Fyr_Amulet_Fix.espTenpacebootsfix.espTreboniusAntabolisFix_0606.espTribunalQuestFix.espUupseFix.espacsEbonyGreaves.espbm_wolf_greaves_fix.espcattle_fix.espcorpusbugfix.espfast_eddie_fix.espfix_false_incarnate.esplfx_nerevarine_greetings.esplfx_rare_heartwood.esplfx_rare_holly.esplfx_rare_hornlily.esplfx_rare_ingredients.esplfx_rare_merged.esplfx_tenpace_tribunal.espmilyn_faram_fix_0529.espshakti_secret_masters_fix.espshvBugFix01.espshvBugFix02.espvampfix.espword_use_fix.esp[...]

Second are some plugins that Gluby described as being fixed by Bethesda's own patches. Note that BloodmoonQuickFixes-LD by LDones (already in mlox_base) is included here.

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; @BloodmoonQuickFixes-LD [LDones]; Dragon32:; Readme included with the mod says "Updated June 28, 2003 - 6:52pm"; Bloodmoon patch v1.6.1820 was released 9th July 2003 (US) and 11th July 2003 (EU); Circumstantial evidence for Gluby's assertion. I also have a *vague* recollection; of LDones posting to this affect on the BSF a while ago[Note] ! If you are running Morrowind v1.6.1820 (i.e. patched with the latest patch) then ! you do not need to install BloodmoonQuickFixes-LD by LDones. ! (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind ! [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )BloodmoonQuickFixes-LD.espBloodmoonQuickFixes-LITE (Non-Tribunal).esp;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; @Dandras Fix [YrthWyndAndFyre][Note] ! If you are running Morrowind v1.6.1820 (i.e. patched with the latest patch) then ! you do not need to install Dandras Fix by YrthWyndAndFyre. ! (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind ! [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )DandrasFix.esp;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; @Huleeya, Morag Tong Bugfix [Escee][Note] ! If you are running Morrowind v1.6.1820 (i.e. patched with the latest patch) then ! you do not need to install Huleeya, Morag Tong Bugfix by Escee. ! (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind ! [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Huleeya_Morag_Tong_Fix_0606.esp;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; @The Huleeya Fix [Psychosavant][Note] ! If you are running Morrowind v1.6.1820 (i.e. patched with the latest patch) then ! you do not need to install The Huleeya Fix by Psychosavant. ! (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind ! [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )fixhuleeya_0627.esp;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; @Sinking Gondola Fix [Scruggs][Note] ! If you are running Morrowind v1.6.1820 (i.e. patched with the latest patch) then ! you do not need to install Sinking Gondola Fix by Scruggs. ! (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind ! [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )Gondola_Fix.esp

Third, an addition for the Morrowind Code Patch section:

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; @MCP (Morrowind Code Patch) [Hrnchamd][...][Note] !! The highly recommended "Morrowind Code Patch" by Hrnchamd also fixes the !! problem of the "missing month" of Morning Star. The MCP fix also may be !! slightly easier on the CPU as it does not require scripting. If you install !! the MCP, you will not need these plugins. !! (Ref: [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=19510"]http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=19510[/url] )Calendar_Fix.espMonth Bugfix - NoExp.espMonth Bugfix.espSpzYearPatch.espSpzYearPatchTrib.esp[...]

Fourth, two new plugin rules:

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; @Mournhold Merc Transportation Fix [Nick Cowan][Note] ! It is recommended  that you replace Nick Cowan's Mournhold Merc Transportation ! Fix with Baratheon79's Mournhold Teleportation Fix. Both mods change Asciene ! Rane and Effe-Tei to provide Mages Guild-style teleportation service. However, ! Nick Cowan's plugin contains dirty references which could needlessly interfere ! with your game. ! (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind ! [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] )MH Transportation.esp;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; @Seamless Morrowind 1.0.14.1 [Kung Fu Sung-Hu][Note] Kung Fu Sung-Hu's Seamless Morrowind v1.0.14.1 has been superseded by Slartibartfast's Texture Fix series, which does the same thing but with greater coverage. See Kung Fu Sung-Hu's note in the mod download comments at PES: [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=2099"]http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View...ail&id=2099[/url]SM_MCE_Fix.espSMAldRuhn.espSMAldVelothi.espSMAscadianIsles.espSMBalmora.espSMCaldera.espSMGnisis.espSMKhuul.espSMMaarGan.espSMNchuleft.espSMOdaiPlateau.espSMSadrithMora.espSMSeydaNeen.espSMTelAruhn.espSMTelVos.esp

And finally one I hummed and hahed about, in the end I went for its own section rather than including it in the MPP one:

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; @Typo Fix Plugin v0.2 [Teppo Lehtonen][Note] The Baldurdash Text Patch contains all the fixes made in Typo Fix Plugin v0.2 by Teppo Lehtonen. (Ref: Gluby's Comprehensive Catalog and Guide to Bugfixes for Morrowind [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=794715&st=0"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...794715&st=0[/url] ) The latest version of the Morrowind Patch includes the Baldurdash Text Patch (with the exception of corrections to books). (Ref: [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=122"]http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View...tail&id=122[/url] )fix_typos.esp

Wow! Great stuff. It's possible we might be able to narrow the Notes that refer to 1.6.1820 by checking the size of Bloodmoon.esm. But that is something that I'll check up on later, if I remember.

For now, all the goodness of your big update is in a new release for the rule-base: mlox-data_2009-03-24a.7z
http://code.google.com/p/mlox/downloads/list

Thanks!

Great, I was just wondering if there was something like BOSS (Oblivion) for Morrowind today, then this got bumped
It works great

Time for some MGE related rules. Asked about these in the MGE thread and consensus was to add them into mlox. I've incremented the version number for harlanrm's plugin and added a new Note. The other two are new.

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; @Distant Land Fix for MGE version 1.8 [harlanrm][Requires] (Ref: "Distant Land Fix for MGE.txt")Distant Land Fix for MGE.esp[ALL Tribunal.esm     Bloodmoon.esm][Note] Version 3.6.0 of MGE added weather, wind and interior detection. This means that distant land is always off in interiors, including Mournhold, and that MGE's fog distance changes in response to the weather. If you using 3.6.0 or a later version you should disable harlanrm's "Distant Land  Fix for MGE.esp" (Ref: [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://morrgraphext.wiki.sourceforge.net/Change+Log"]http://morrgraphext.wiki.sourceforge.net/Change+Log[/url] )Distant Land Fix for MGE.esp;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; @Distant Land Weather Fix 1.2 [Supernatural][Requires] (Ref: "Distant Land Weather Fix 1.2 - ReadMe.txt")Distant Land Weather Fix.esp[ALL Tribunal.esm     Bloodmoon.esm][Note] If you use a version of MGE lower than 3.6.0 it's suggested you use harlanrm's "Distant Land Fix for MGE". Instead of simply turning distant land off harlanrm's plugin smoothly alters the fog distance based on the weather, it also turns distant land off in interiors. [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=5868"]http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View...ail&id=5868[/url] If you are using MGE 3.6.0 or greater then you do not need Supernatural's or harlanrm's plugins. Version 3.6.0 of MGE added weather, wind and interior detection so that MGE itself adjusts fog distance in response to the weather and turns off  distant land in interiors. (Ref: [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://morrgraphext.wiki.sourceforge.net/Change+Log"]http://morrgraphext.wiki.sourceforge.net/Change+Log[/url] )Distant Land Weather Fix.esp;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; @Distant Land Interior Fix [Yacoby]; Dragon32: Not mentioned in the readme, but MGE needs the expansions.[Requires][ANY Distant Land Interior Fix.esp     Distant Land Interior Fix No Lag.esp][ALL Tribunal.esm     Bloodmoon.esm][Note] Version 3.6.0 of MGE added interior detection. This means that distant land is always off in interiors, including Mournhold. If you using 3.6.0 or a later version you should disable Yacoby's "Distant Land  Interior Fix". (Ref: [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://morrgraphext.wiki.sourceforge.net/Change+Log"]http://morrgraphext.wiki.sourceforge.net/Change+Log[/url] ) If you use a version of MGE lower than 3.6.0 it's suggested you use harlanrm's "Distant Land Fix for MGE", as well as turning distant land off in interiors it smoothly alters the fog distance based on the weather. [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=5868"]http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View...ail&id=5868[/url][ANY Distant Land Interior Fix.esp     Distant Land Interior Fix No Lag.esp]

Another addition to the MPP list, I should've remembered this as quorn replied to a post of mine about this plugin. The [...] mean that this needs to be folded into the existing rules.

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; @MPP [TES Morrowind Community, ThePal, Baldurdash, and quorn][...][Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Tribunal Crimson Plague Quest Tweaker v0.01 (Max a.k.a. ~NOBODY~). (Ref: [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?s=&showtopic=946462&view=findpost&p=13837411"]http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.ph...&p=13837411[/url] )Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmTribunal Crimson Plague tweaker.esp[...][Note] ! All of these plugins are either included in, or the problems they address are also addressed by the  ! latest MPP by quorn [Morrowind Patch v1.6.4]. It is recommended that you replace them with the MPP: ! [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=7347"]http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View...ail&id=7347[/url] ! [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=4519"]http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.ph...ls&lid=4519[/url][...]Tribunal Crimson Plague tweaker.esp[...]

Thanks!
Here's a new version of the rule-base including these changes: mlox-data_2009-03-25a.7z
http://code.google.com/p/mlox/downloads/list

I appreciate all the help.

Ooops, I noticed today that I had both AscendedSleeperSFX and UUMPPAscendedSleeperSounds activated.

Might want to have a comment about one or the other, but not both, John.

Do not have multiples of quorn's other tweaks, but it might not hurt to check those out, too.

sieboldii

I found AscendedSleeperSFX, but not sure where to find UUMPPAscendedSleeperSounds, is it an obsolete part of a previous release? Just needed to verify the filenames.

I believe you added my MCA "fix" to the list, but it needs to be loaded AFTER Mashed Lists or MCA plugins, because it deletes stuff from these. Mlox doesn't do so currently.

I am fairly sure you shouldn't load anything that modifies leveled lists after the merged lists

It only tells the game to delete the town bandits etc.

It was originally part of UUMPP1.64 (wip) and has been replaced by SFX. If someone just updated from UUMPP to WPP and adds the quorn tweaks they can end up with a repetitive esp as I did. Same could be true for quorn's other UUMPP tweaks.

sieboldii

This is MCAFix.esp? mlox doesn't currently know anything about it yet, but I can add it in for the next update.

This is correct. Nothing should need to load after the mashed lists.



As long as it's the last plugin OTHER THAN MASHED LISTS that changes that list, everything will work fine. So your fix should come after MCA, but still before Mashed Lsits.

I see. I don't have that earlier version so I need to verify the exact filename. Is it "UUMPPAscendedSleeperSounds.esp" (no spaces)?

'Fraid I don't have a copy of the archive with that ESP in. Have to wait for sieboldii.

But... More rules!

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; @MPP [TES Morrowind Community, ThePal, Baldurdash, and quorn][...][Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Correct Spell Sounds (Zener). (Ref: Dragon32. I checked the alterations Correct Spell Sounds made against  those made by MPP. The MPP makes a better fist of it as it changed Demoralize  Humanoid to Illusion, Correct Spell Sounds missed that change)Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmCorrect Spell Sounds.esp[Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Edwinna Elbert's Book (Alphax). (Ref: Morrowind_Patch_v1.6.4\Patch Documentation\Bug Fixes.txt)Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmlfx_edwinna_book.esp; Dragon32 - from here: [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://nightmare2013.brashendeavors.net/"]http://nightmare2013.brashendeavors.net/[/url][Conflict] The MPP obsoletes Bloodmoon EEC Stock Certificate fix (Nightmare2013). (Ref: Morrowind_Patch_v1.6.4\Patch Documentation\Bug Fixes.txt)Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmfixdialog-bmeec-stockcertificate-notrib.esp[...][Note] ! All of these plugins are either included in, or the problems they address are also addressed by the ! latest MPP by quorn [Morrowind Patch v1.6.4]. It is recommended that you replace them with the MPP: ! [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View...ail&id=7347"]http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View...ail&id=7347[/url] ! [src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/938026-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-analyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.ph...ls&lid=4519"]http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.ph...ls&lid=4519[/url][...]Correct Spell Sounds.espfixdialog-bmeec-stockcertificate-notrib.esplfx_edwinna_book.esp[...]

Just about gone through all the fixes I had lined up for my game (and some I didn't, after finding that Gluby thread). I'm going to move onto other mod types now. I might come up with some more rules as I grovel obscenely through my hard drive. Did I do that right? :ninja:

Indeed you did.

The two that I still had in my download file are;

UUMPP Ascended Sleeper Sounds Patch v1.6.4.esp replaced by AscendedSleeperSFX.esp and

UUMPP Steel Broadsword Patch v1.6.4.esp replaced by Steel Broadsword Fix BM.esp.

sieboldii