[RELz] mlox, a tool for anolyzing and sorting your load orde : III - Morrowind

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:04 pm

Was hoping you hadn't released a new ruleset so soon.
According to mlox's rules:

I have to admit, I found the situation confusing. However, I thought Liztail had cleared it up in http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?s=&showtopic=921269&view=findpost&p=13470588:

For Slof's you need to enable Slof's Better Beasts Reptile version as well as the New Argonian Bodies (Slof Textures) mod in order to get her heads and my bodies. Her mod needs to load first before mine...

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:30 pm

To give people a wider variety of texture choices, I've also added new optional downloads that will let you use Slof's and/or Silaria's textures on my body meshes =) They don't contain any of the files from their mods, so you'll need to download the original mod to make them work, but you do NOT need to enable their ESP files once you have these. They also reference some files in my mod, so here's the full list of what you need:

Always required:

My Unique Shadow Pack mod
A version (Clean or Mature) of my New Beast Bodies 3.0 mod

To use Slof's textures:

Slof's Better Beasts reptile version
Optional Slof texture compatibility patch from my website.

To use Silaria's textures:

Sabregirl's Better Bodies for Argonians (a BB version of Silaria's original textures)
Optional Silaria texture compatibility patch from my website.

The compatibility patches come with separate ESP files for each race, and and are made in a way that you can switch each race's texture individually by checking and un-checking ESP files in the Data Files section of the Morrowind Launcher.

In the updated (3.2) release thread directly after that one, Liz points out its no longer needed.

Edit: And also in the http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=954528&st=0&p=13789360&#entry13788785.

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:40 pm

In the updated (3.2) release thread directly after that one, Liz points out its no longer needed.

Ah, I see, I did miss that, thanks. I'll address this in the next update!

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:36 pm

^^ Yay I contributed to something worth while! ^_^

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:23 pm

[CONFLICT] > 'Clean Official Plugins v1.1.esp' > [ANY >   'MISSING(AdamantiumArmor.esp)', >   'MISSING(Area Effect Arrows.esp)', >   'MISSING(AreaEffectArrows XB Edition.esp)', >   'MISSING(AreaEffectArrows.esp)', >   'bcsounds.esp', >   'MISSING(EBQ_Artifact.esp)', >   'MISSING(entertainers.esp)', >   'MISSING(LeFemmArmor.esp)', >   'MISSING(master_index.esp)', >   'MISSING(Siege at Firemoth.esp)']

Plugin description,

These are the official plugins made by Bethesda Softworks in one handy .esp!

Note: These plugins were created by Bethesda Softworks, I just combined them.

EDIT: Steel Broadsword fix is actually up to 1.2

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:48 am

[CONFLICT] > 'Clean Official Plugins v1.1.esp' >   'bcsounds.esp'

This conflict is telling you that bcsounds is included in "Clean Official Plugins", if, as mlox thinks, that mod includes all the official plugins. So you don't need to also load bcsounds (unless we got our information wrong).

EDIT: Steel Broadsword fix is actually up to 1.2

Thanks, I'll include that in the next update!

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:55 am

Erm... I tried to use this program, so I d/led it and installed it... but upon using it, it just went from a DOS box, popped the program up immediately after for a brief second, then closed without any error notification whatsoever. It had some text listed on the program, but it closed much too fast for me to read it.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:40 am

Erm... I tried to use this program, so I d/led it and installed it... but upon using it, it just went from a DOS box, popped the program up immediately after for a brief second, then closed without any error notification whatsoever. It had some text listed on the program, but it closed much too fast for me to read it.

Did you install the .exe version?

sieboldii

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:06 am

I installed the python version, since I had those requirements fulfilled already thanks to Mash. When that didn't work, I tried the .exe version, and got the same result.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:11 pm

Dunno about the EXE version. What version of Python have you got? Have you tried running "mlox.bat" (it assumes an install of c:\python25\python)?

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:05 pm

I have Python25 installed.

EDIT: I've tried running the .bat file, but like the other instances, it did the same thing. Immediately closed upon running.

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:12 am

popped the program up immediately after for a brief second, then closed without any error notification whatsoever.

What are the contents of your mlox.err file? (It's just a simple text file).

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:09 am

Don't know. My computer isn't reading it like a .txt file, and thus doesn't know how to open it.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:19 pm

Sorry; got the .err file to open with notepad. Here's the contents:

mlox.py 0.55 [mlox-base 2009-05-19 00:29:30 (UTC)] (en/cp1252)Python Version: 2.5wxPython Version: 2.8.0.1Traceback (most recent call last):  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Morrowind\mlox\mlox.py", line 1723, in <module>	main()  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Morrowind\mlox\mlox.py", line 1631, in main	mlox_gui().start()  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Morrowind\mlox\mlox.py", line 1516, in start	self.anolyze_loadorder(None)  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Morrowind\mlox\mlox.py", line 1505, in anolyze_loadorder	self.highlight_warnings(self.txt_msg)  File "C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Morrowind\mlox\mlox.py", line 1447, in highlight_warnings	low = rt.TextAttrEx()   ; low.SetBackgroundColour(wx.Colour(125,220,240))AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'TextAttrEx'

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:35 am

Sorry; got the .err file to open with notepad. Here's the contents:

wxPython Version: 2.8.0.1

That's the problem, you don't have the version of wxPython installed that mlox needs. As the Readme says, mlox needs 2.8.7.1.
If you run the .exe version, you should not have this problem.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:03 pm

Alright, well, its working now, though the .exe version wasn't working before. However, I must ask this:

Why is it that making a shortcut for the program doesn't work? I had it pinned to the start menu, but it pops up an error when I try. The log says this:

Traceback (most recent call last):  File "mlox.py", line 252, in <module>  File "mlox.py", line 250, in load_translations  File "codecs.pyo", line 817, in openIOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'mlox.msg'Traceback (most recent call last):  File "mlox.py", line 252, in <module>  File "mlox.py", line 250, in load_translations  File "codecs.pyo", line 817, in openIOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'mlox.msg'

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:48 pm

Alright, well, its working now, though the .exe version wasn't working before. However, I must ask this:

Why is it that making a shortcut for the program doesn't work?

This error will happen if you run the mlox application outside the mlox directory. It needs to have the "current directory" be the mlox directory so it can find its resource files, like mlox.msg. I think you can tell the shortcut which directory to run in, and changing that would probably fix that error.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:55 pm

Okay. Maybe that'll help fix the Wrye Mash one as well, since that one does the same thing to me...

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:12 pm

What a helpful program--didn't realize so many of my mods had updated versions. And although I knew there were conflicts (NPCs strolling on the ocean floor and trees hanging in mid air) couldn't figure out the mods involved until mlox. And it's so user friendly. Many Thanks.

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:44 am

Mlox is telling me that for Morrowind Complete, I should only have one of the two .esps running: Either the normal version, or the Replacer version. Not both. However, trying to run it with only the Replacer version gives me a ton of missing file errors. What's going on? Also, some of the other conflicts its warning me about won't go away, even after I follow its instructions to take care of the conflicts.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:59 pm

Mlox is telling me that for Morrowind Complete, I should only have one of the two .esps running: Either the normal version, or the Replacer version. Not both. However, trying to run it with only the Replacer version gives me a ton of missing file errors. What's going on?

I think that perhaps mlox is wrong about this one, and the replacer should be activated in addition to the normal version. I'll address this in the next release of the rule-base.

Also, some of the other conflicts its warning me about won't go away, even after I follow its instructions to take care of the conflicts.

Would it be possible to paste in the output from mlox for those conflicts?

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:59 am

Here's the list. The last one, concerning the MPP, isn't one I'm concerned about. The mods I have concerning that don't cause problems, and so far, the MPP only further destroys my game for whatever reason. So just ignore it.

[REQUIRES] !!!'AV_female_armor.esp' Requires: > [ANY >   'MISSING(LeFemmArmor.esp)', >   'MISSING(OfficialMods_v5.esp)', >   'MISSING(Clean Official Plugins v1.1.esp)'] | (Ref: AV_female_armor.esp) | [Note that you may see this message if you have an older version of one | of the pre-requisites. In that case, it is suggested that you upgrade | to the newer version].[CONFLICT] > 'Complete Morrowind - Tribunal & Bloodmoon.esp' > 'Complete Morrowind TB & BM - Replacer.esp' | Choose ONLY ONE of these plugins. | The replacer version is if you want to be able to cut down trees for logs and mine ore, but it has higher potential for conflicts. | (Ref: "Readme - Complete Morrowind TB & BM.txt")[NOTE] > 'MWE_Combat.esp' > 'MWE_Base.esp' | Ensure you are using the latest version of Morrowind Enhanced, v1.6 | http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Utilities.Detail&id=8[NOTE] > 'ArchMage_Fix_0604.esp' > 'Clean_Templar_Pauldron_Fix_v11.esp' > 'ExcuseMe.esp' > 'Factor_fix.esp' > 'Female Ice Gauntlet Fix.esp' > 'SecretMasterFix.esp' | ! All of these plugins are either included in, or the problems they address are also addressed by the latest MPP by quorn [Morrowind Patch v1.6.4]. It is recommended that you replace them with the MPP: | ! http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=7347 | ! http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=4519current saved to: current_loadorder.outmlox sorted saved to: mlox_new_loadorder.out

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:42 pm

Here's the list. The last one, concerning the MPP, isn't one I'm concerned about. The mods I have concerning that don't cause problems, and so far, the MPP only further destroys my game for whatever reason. So just ignore it.

The message about AV_female_armor.esp is telling you that it requires the LeFemm Armor plugin, in one of its forms. You don't have any of them that mlox is aware of. The solution would be to install the one that appeals to you. If you have the LeFemm Armor from some other plugin, let me know, and I'll look into making mlox aware of it.

The message about MWE is there because mlox notices you have some MWE mods installed, however mlox does not have the ability to test for the version of MWE, so it's not possible to tell if the warning is superfluous.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:06 pm

The message about AV_female_armor.esp is telling you that it requires the LeFemm Armor plugin, in one of its forms. You don't have any of them that mlox is aware of. The solution would be to install the one that appeals to you. If you have the LeFemm Armor from some other plugin, let me know, and I'll look into making mlox aware of it.

The message about MWE is there because mlox notices you have some MWE mods installed, however mlox does not have the ability to test for the version of MWE, so it's not possible to tell if the warning is superfluous.

I had the latest version of LaFemm Armor downloaded last night, and I turned it on. Checking now, however, it got turned off again. I don't know how, but its back on again, and the error's gone. Thanks for the help.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:59 pm

I noted a few things while working on my mod list, I hope some information is valuable so that the base rules can be updated.

*Better Clothes
There is a patch for BC by Keazen: BetterClothes_Patch.esp, at http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=6764
When merging the objects of all mods including the patch for BC and BC itself with Testool, the changes by the patch did not show up in-game. Therefore, I left them out of the objects merge.

*Area effect arrows AreaEffectArrows.esp
*Bitter coast sounds bcsounds.esp
*Ebartifact EBQ_Artifact.esp
*Entertainers entertainers.esp
*Masterindex master_index.esp
Need GMST cleaning.

*Abandoned Well at Dagon Fel
There is an updated version but it is not on PES: DagonFel_Well_v2.esp on http://www.angelfire.com/folk/joesfaithweb/Morrowind.htm
The old version is DagonFel_Well.esp .

*Graphic Herbalism "Graphic Herbalism.esp"
Conflicts with Resources Enhanced "Resources enhanced.esp", e.g. both mod kollops.

*Wrye's patches "Wrye Patches xy.esp" where xy = {A, A1, B, C, C1, G, M, M1, W}
Should load after other mods, because they change the names of objects that might be edited by other mods.