What happens if I take or remove a mods master?
also my game crashes when I load a different cell while playing any songs I use GNR more where that came from.
This also happens while playing vanilla GNR.

If you remove a master from your load order, the game will CTD at the main menu.

Sorry I can't help with the crash on cell load issue.

Actually I am trying to get an esp to work without its masters

The only way you'll get it to work is to strip all the records out of it that refer to the master file's records. You'll also have to fix any records in the "slave" file (for lack of a better term) that reference any of the records you have stripped out. And, if there are any scripts in the "slave" file that reference the records you stripped out, you'll have to edit those scripts to remove the references to the stripped records.

In other words, good luck.

how exactly

edit are there any other ways a I can have a more stable game other than masterupdate and merged patch.

Ok here is another question what is the best stutter remover than makes my game less laggy so it won't crash?

Not sure, but one of these might help:

http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9719
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=7876
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10127
http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9606

I haven't used them myself, so you'll have to read up them yourself and see if they are appropriate.



http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8886 is the only stutter remover I'm aware of. I haven't tried it for a while, but it kind of worked. You'd have to try it for yourself, but I would try reducing your graphics settings first. http://www.tweakguides.com/Fallout3_1.html has a good, um, guide.

~Xeph'

Thanks any others
cause cannot get the weapons in eve in the museum already have a thread like that