Modification to clutter item values not appearing in game.

Post » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:12 am

Alright, I whipped up a mod increasing the value of many pieces of clutter (cups, glasses, plates, gems, etc etc), to make thieving more worthwhile.

However in game I find that many, but not all, of the items have not had their values changed.

Checking in TES4Edit, I confirmed that the new values are properly merging into the bashed patch, and the final winners are the ones I want. I even tried moving the esp to after the BP, just to double check. Same result.

The only thing I can think of is that somehow a script is changing the values back, but I have no idea how I'd begin to track that down.

Here's my load order, I can provide screenshots of the items in-game, identified using RefScope, and in TES4Edit if that is necessary. But mostly I'm looking for a way of tracking down why this very simple mod just isn't working.

Active Mod Files:
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00  Oblivion.esm01  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]04  Harvest[Containers].esm05  Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esm06  Harvest[Containers] - Player Home Add-on.esm07  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]08  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]09  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm0A  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.2.3]0B  CM Partners.esm0C  Oblivifall Master File.esm  [Version 1.2]0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.2]0E  UOPS Additional Changes.esp++  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp++  BloatedFloatCollisionRemoval.esp0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.0]11  USIPS Additional Changes.esp++  USIPCutterFix.esp12  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]**  Loading Screens - Vanilla No Text.esp13  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.34]14  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.34]15  Realistic Water.esp16  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.34]17  WindowLightingSystem.esp18  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp19  FlyingCameraMod.esp  [Version 1.3]1A  ClothingIsArmor.esp1B  More Effective Enchantments.esp1C  More Effective Enchantments SI.esp1D  See You Sleep DLL.esp1E  See You Sleep DLL - Vampire Bedroll Anims.esp1F  Camping.esp20  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.7]21  Water Nymphs.esp22  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]23  BookTrackerOBSE.esp24  Display Stats.esp  [Version 2.0.1]25  FormID Finder4.esp26  Get Wet.esp27  kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp28  Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.3]29  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.3.2]2A  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1.1]2B  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]2C  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.9.3]2D  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.3.1]2E  DLCHorseArmor.esp2F  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]30  DLCOrrery.esp31  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]**  DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp32  DLCVileLair.esp33  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]34  See You Sleep DLL - DLCVileLair.esp35  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp36  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]**  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk.esp37  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]38  DLCSpellTomes - OBSEfixer.esp39  VipCxj_HighHeels.esp3A  RHH Clothing and Armor Merged Plugin.esp3B  Clothing and Armor Merged Plugin.esp3C  Nailfllan Outfits.esp**  Dress WBBW DMRA+.esp**  Jos3006's Japenese Weapons.esp++  LEM Retextured Glass Weapons.esp3D  Thieves Arsenal.esp**  DMRA BBB Armamentarium Complete.esp++  DMRA BBB Better Cities.esp**  DMRA BBB Skimpy Emperor Robe.esp**  DMRA BBB Skimpy Shivering Royalty.esp**  Fairy Wings Darkness.esp3E  R18PN - Bs Bondage.esp3F  DLCThievesDen.esp40  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]**  DLCThievesDen Vwalk.esp41  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]42  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]43  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp44  Alluring Wine Bottles.esp++  ArmamentariumLL.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp  [Version 1.35]45  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp  [Version 1.35]46  Harvest[Containers].esp++  Harvest[Containers] - Vanilla - Ore ReSpawn.esp++  Harvest[Containers] - SI - Ore Respawn.esp++  Harvest[Containers] - Player Home Add-on.esp++  Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp47  FarmAnimalsofCyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.4]48  Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp  [Version 1.03]49  Suliin V1.2.esp4A  EM_CompInnsleeping.esp  [Version 0.9]4B  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]**  DMRA BBB Artifacts Complete.esp4C  Better Benirus Manor - Helping Hands.esp  [Version 2.01]4D  Better Benirus Manor.esp  [Version 4.71]4E  DMwardropemerged.esp4F  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp50  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp**  Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp51  Fall Hair Wig Shop - EV.esp52  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.6]53  MTCExpandedVillages.esp++  MTCExpandedVillages-DLCVileLair Patch.esp54  Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp55  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.5.2]**  The Ayleid Steps Vwalk.esp56  Definitive Toilets.esp57  Treasure Maps complete compilation-UL edition.esp  [Version 1.2]58  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp59  Apachii_Wigs_MaleFemale.esp5A  Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp  [Version 3.0.5]5B  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp5C  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]5D  DLCFrostcrag.esp5E  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]**  DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp5F  Knights.esp  [Version modified]60  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2]++  DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp**  Knights Vwalk.esp61  More Effective Enchantments Knights.esp62  SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp  [Version 1.30]63  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.32.COBL]64  AFK_Weye - Oblivion XP Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]65  MannimarcoRevisited.esp66  Roads of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.0]67  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 1.43]68  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion Kvatch Rebuilt.esp  [Version 1.0]69  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion KOTN.esp  [Version 1.0]**  Oblivifall - Female Armors.esp  [Version 2.1]6A  ACharmingTown.esp6B  Faregyl.esp  [Version 2.0.10]**  Faregyl Vwalk.esp++  MTCVillages-FaregylPatch.esp6C  Feldscar.esp  [Version 1.0.13]**  Feldscar Vwalk.esp6D  Gottshaw Village.esp  [Version 1.0]**  Gottshaw Village Vwalk.esp6E  Molapi.esp  [Version 1.0.1]6F  Reedstand.esp  [Version 1.0.4]**  Reedstand Vwalk.esp70  SacredOak_Settlement.esp71  ShezriesTownsMaster.esp++  Artifacts-ShezriesTowns Patch.esp  [Version 1.2]++  MTCExpandedVillages-ShezriesTowns Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]72  Urasek.esp  [Version 1.0.4]**  Urasek Vwalk.esp++  SacredOakSettlement-Urasek patch.esp73  Vergayun.esp  [Version 2.0.2]**  Vergayun Vwalk.esp74  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]75  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]76  xulTheHeath.esp77  xulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]78  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]79  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]7A  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]**  xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.esp7B  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]7C  UL Beaches of Cyrodiil - DMwardrobe patch.esp7D  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.4]**  xulBravilBarrowfields Vwalk.esp7E  Suliin-BravilBarrowfields patch.esp7F  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.2]80  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]81  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]++  ROC+Ancient Redwoods.esp  [Version 1.0]82  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]83  Ravenview-Cloudtop-Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]84  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]85  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]++  AFK_Weye Arrius_Creek Patch.esp86  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]**  xulRollingHills_EV Vwalk.esp87  xulPantherRiver.esp88  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]89  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]**  xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.esp8A  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]**  xulImperialIsle Vwalk.esp8B  RegionReviveLakeRumare-ImperialIsle patch.esp  [Version 1.3.4]8C  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]8D  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]8E  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp8F  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]++  Lakewood+AspenWood Patch.esp  [Version 3.0]**  xulAspenWood Vwalk.esp90  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]**  xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.esp++  ROC+UL Skingrad Outskirts Patch.esp91  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.5]++  Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.2]++  MTCExpandedVillages-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp  [Version 1.0]92  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]**  xulCliffsOfAnvil Vwalk.esp93  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.2]94  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.1]95  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.0]**  xulTheEasternPeaks Vwalk.esp++  ROC+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]96  BrinaCrossVillage.esp  [Version 1.0.3]**  BrinaCrossVillage Vwalk.esp97  BrinaCrossVillage -- COBL.esp98  Colourwheels sixy Tavern HGEC.esp**  Colourwheels sixy Tavern All Natural Patch.esp++  xulImperialIsle-ColourwheelsixyTavern Patch.esp99  Colourwheels sixy Skyrim Outpost HGEC.esp**  Colourwheels sixy Skyrim Outpost All Natural Patch.esp9A  Colourwheels sixy Dark brotherhood.esp9B  Colourwheels sixy Ayelid Shrine.esp9C  ColourWheels sixy Milk Maid HGEC.esp++  GottshawVillage-CWsixyMilkMaid Patch.esp9D  Frostcrag Village.esp  [Version 1.0.7]**  Frostcrag Village Vwalk.esp9E  Lilyvale.esp9F  LilyvaleULcompatibility.espA0  LilyBATTLEHORNcompatibility.esp++  ROC+Lilyvale Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]A1  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]A2  Sutch Village.esp  [Version 1.0.2]**  Sutch Village Vwalk.esp++  LostCoast + SutchVillage Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Better Cities - House price patch.esp  [Version 1.0]A3  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]A4  Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp  [Version 1.2.5]++  Banes Guilds United KR patch.espA5  Better Dungeons.esp++  CompanionHorseSupportFIX forCMPartners.esp++  DaedricRequirements.espA6  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3.2]A7  DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.espA8  DecoratorAssistant Unlock for OBSE version.espA9  DS Portable Sorters.esp  [Version 1.3]AA  DS Storage Sacks.esp  [Version 1.3]++  Higher Thieves' Guild Fence Amounts.espAB  ImprovedSoulgems.esp  [Version 1.11]++  Nephs Increased Quest Gold.espAC  Nephs Unique Thievery.esp++  nvde Humanlike Spriggan.espAD  Respawning Varla & Welkynd Stones.esp  [Version 1.2]++  Skillbased Thieves Guild Invitation_HARD.espAE  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]++  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 5.4.3]AF  Alternative Beginnings.esp  [Version 1.4]B0  Alternative Beginnings - Kvatch Intact.esp  [Version 1.4]B1  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 6.2]B2  Basic Personal Hygiene.esp  [Version 2.5]B3  Basic Physical Activities.esp  [Version 1.3]B4  RealisticForceHigh.espB5  ASLES.espB6  Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.espB7  DS Summon Luggage.espB8  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.1.2]B9  SpellSinger.espBA  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]BB  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]BC  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_VanillaSpells.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]BD  Lightweight Potions.esp  [Version 1.1]BE  Thievery_Easy_Thrill.espBF  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]C0  ResetEmotionAfterCombat.espC1  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp  [Version 7.3]C2  Unequip Broken Armor.esp  [Version 2.8.2]C3  SDR_Core.esp  [Version 4.5.4]++  SDR_ThievesArsenal_Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]C4  Oblivion XP.espC5  SDR_Perks And Patches (Oblivion).esp  [Version 4.5.0]C6  Legendary Abilities-Reflect MOJ.esp  [Version 2.0]C7  Grandmaster of Alchemy.espC8  SeductiveIdlesgloomfrostcustom.espC9  actors_in_charge.espCA  shinyEmotions.esp++  DMC Stylish - 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Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.34]++  DreamworldBow.esp++  Ear Equip.espE7  xeoex.esp++  Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul L World.esp++  Cyrodiil Travel Services L World.esp++  Suliin V1.2 L World.esp++  ShezriesTownsMaster L World.esp++  AFK_Weye L World.esp++  Region Revive - Lake Rumare L World.esp++  SacredOak_Settlement L World.esp++  ACharmingTown L World.esp++  Better Imperial Cirty L World.esp++  Thieves Arsenal L World.esp++  DLCVileLair L World.esp++  DLCFrostcrag L World.esp++  Oblivifall Knights L World.esp++  Better Dungeons L World.esp++  MannimarcoRevisited L World.esp++  CM Partners Special NPCs L World.esp++  Colourwheels sixy Ayleid Shrine L World.esp++  Colourwheels sixy Skyrim Outpost L World.esp++  Colourwheels sixy Tavern L World.esp++  Colourwheels sixy Dark Brotherhood L World.esp++  Lilyvale L World.esp++  Roads of Cyrodiil L World.esp++  CM Partners More NPCs L World.esp++  DLCBattlehornCastle Colourwheel L World.esp++  Kvatch Rebuilt ESM L World.esp++  Kvatch Rebuilt ESP L World.esp++  Salmo the Baker Cobl L World.esp++  The Ayleid Steps - L World.esp++  LetThePeopleDrink L World.esp++  Knights L World.esp++  DLCThievesDen L World.esp++  DLCSpellTomes L World.esp++  DLCBattlehornCastle L World.esp++  DLCOrrery L World.esp++  DLCMehrunesRazor L World.esp++  Vergayun L World.esp++  Urasek L World.esp++  xulTheEasternPeaks L World.esp++  xulStendarrValley L World.esp++  xulSnowdale L World.esp++  xulSkingradOutskirts L World.esp++  xulRollingHills_EV L World.esp++  xulImperialIsle L World.esp++  xulCliffsOfAnvil L World.esp++  xulChorrolHinterland L World.esp++  xulBrenaRiverRavine L World.esp++  xulBravilBarrowfields L World.esp++  xulBlackwoodForest L World.esp++  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast L World.esp++  xulAspenWood L World.esp++  xulAncientRedwoods L World.esp++  Frostcrag Village L World.esp++  Sutch L World.esp++  Gottshaw L World.esp++  Reedstand L World.esp++  Molapi L World.esp++  Feldscar L World.esp++  Faregyl L World.esp++  Brina Cross L World.esp++  Oblivifall - L World.esp++  Colourwheel L World.esp++  Alternative Beginnings Kvatch L World.esp++  Alternative Beginnings L World.esp++  Artifacts L World.esp++  Vilja L World.esp**  xeoex Vwalk.esp++  XeoRaceModifications.esp++  CM Partners L World.esp++  Better Cities L World.espE8  Telorias Chest.esp++  DMWardrobe L World.esp++  MTCExpanded Villages L World.esp++  bgMagicEV L World.espE9  Face Import.esp++  Nephs Assorted Fixes.espEA  Nephs Prefered  Item Values.espEB  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
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Kelsey Anna Farley
 
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Post » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:03 am

My first guess would be Enhanced Economy, which changes item values dynamically. So it's probably not affected by load order.
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