Mods advice

Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:08 pm

Hi, i have just came back to oblivion from a long break in skyrim and was wondering what the latest good mods are and what do people generally use for managing their mods, OBMM, NMM or bash?

Im currenty using NMM, as i am for skyrim and think its fine and like the feature of seeing what version the mod is, but would it be worth learning to use bash? It does look very complicated and i only have about 80 plugins so dont know if there will be any point. If it'll help the game run faster then great but if not it seems a lot of hassle. But i am also wondering the same thing about skyrim.

Anyway heres my current mod list according to BOSS:

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0 of 86 plugins hidden. 0 of 67 messages hidden.
?Summary


Your masterlist is already at the latest revision (r4280; Apr 23, 2012). No update necessary. Recognised plugins: 84 Warning messages: 0 Unrecognised plugins: 2 Error messages: 0 Ghosted plugins: 0 Total number of messages: 67 Total number of plugins: 86
Plugins sorted by user rules are counted as recognised plugins.
?Script Extender And Script Extender Plugins
  • OBSE Version: 0.0.20.6
  • FastExit2.dll
  • NifSE.dll
  • sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll Version: 4.1.0.0
?Recognised And Re-ordered Plugins
  • Oblivion.esm Active
  • Cobl Main.esm Version 1.72 Active
    • Note: Do not use Tamrielic Ingredients and COBL at the same time.
  • Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm Version 1.35Beta Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.Spells, Graphics, Invent, Scripts, Stats, Relations}}
    • Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
  • Kvatch Rebuilt.esm Version 2.x Active
  • Better Cities Resources.esm Version 5.1.8 Active
  • CLS-craftybits.esm Active
  • Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Version 3.2.0 Active
    • Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood, Delev, Factions, Invent, NPC.Class, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}} and remove [C.Water] tag(s) (only exist in older version).
  • UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Version 1.0.0 Active
    • Note: Recommend removing if using Wrye Bash. A tweak for this exists in "Tweak Settings".
  • Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp Active
  • DLCShiveringIsles.esp Active
  • Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Version 1.5.0 Active
    • Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Name, C.Owner, Delev, Factions, Invent, Names, Relev, Scripts, Stats, Relations}}
  • USIPS Additional Changes.esp Version 1.4.4 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
  • Better Cities .esp Version 4.7.0 Active
    • Note: Dummy file to load Better Cities .BSA
  • Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp Active
    • Note: Original mod is heavily bugged. Make sure you are using Ryu Doppler's fixed version.
  • Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp Active
  • Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp Active
  • Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp Version 1.1 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Sound}}
  • WindowLightingSystem.esp Active
  • AliveWaters.esp Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 299 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
  • AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
  • AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp Active
  • Camping.esp Version 1.8 Active
  • Enhanced Economy.esp Version 5.4.3 Active
    • Incompatible with: Living Economy.
  • DLCHorseArmor.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Scripts}}
    • Contains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
  • DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.7 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Owner}}
  • DLCOrrery.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages}}
    • Contains dirty edits: 11 ITM, 2 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
  • DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.5 Active
  • DLCVileLair.esp Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 26 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
    • Incompatible with: 'Kumiko Manor'
  • DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.7 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}
  • DLCMehrunesRazor.esp Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 21 ITM, 15 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
  • DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.5 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Invent, Relev}}
  • DLCSpellTomes.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
    • Contains dirty edits: 40 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
  • DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.1 Active
    • Incompatible with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.
  • New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp Active
  • DLCThievesDen.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Name, C.Light, Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Stats}}
    • Contains dirty edits: 5 ITM, 135 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
  • DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.10 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.Stats, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Relev}}
  • DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp Version 1.0.5 Active
    • Note: Only for new game. Don't use for existing game.
  • Cobl Glue.esp Version 1.72 Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 0 ITM, 14 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
  • Cobl Si.esp Version 1.63 Active
    • Requires: Shivering Isles expansion.
  • Cobl Tweaks.esp Version 1.44 Active
  • Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp Version 1.35Beta Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.Spells, Actors.Stats, Delev, Factions, Graphics, Invent, Names, R.ChangeSpells, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}}
    • Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
  • OOO-Water_Weeds.esp Version 1.33 Active
  • OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp Version 1.72 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Invent}}
  • Trade and Commerce.esp Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 0 ITM, 18 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
  • Kvatch Rebuilt.esp Version 2.2 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages, Invent}}
  • Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp Active
  • GlenvarCastle.esp Version 2.10 Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 38 ITM, 712 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide. Also see special cleaning instructions: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide#GlenvarCastle.esp_Special_Cleaning_Instructions
  • VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp Active
  • Woodcutters_Cabin_COBL.esp Active
  • DLCBattlehornCastle.esp Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 13 ITM, 74 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
  • DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.6 Active
  • DLCFrostcrag.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Name, C.Owner, Factions}}
    • Contains dirty edits: 73 ITM, 94 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
  • DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.6 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood}} and remove [C.Climate, C.Light] tags
  • Knights.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations}}
    • Contains dirty edits: 121 ITM, 257 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
  • Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.1.2 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations}}
  • Knights - Cobl.esp Version 2.6 Active
  • Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 6 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
  • HoarfrostCastle.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair}}
    • Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 730 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
  • bartholm.esp Version 7.0 Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 211 ITM, 553 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
  • bartholm - EE patch.esp Version 4.2 Active
  • Millstone_Farm_COBL.esp Active
  • Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp Version 3.08 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Owner, Names, Invent, Factions, Actors.Stats, NPC.Class, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Graphics}}
    • Note: MAY cause CTDs. Cause uncertain despite extensive debugging. Disable if experiencing a persistant crash.
    • Contains dirty edits: 34 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
  • Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp Active
    • Note: Put before Unique Landscape mods to return tree sizes there to normal.
  • Harvest [Flora].esp Version 3.0.0 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics, Scripts}}
    • Note: Make sure you have v3.0.1 or later, which removes a CTD bug with the Harrada root.
  • CLS-craftybits.esp Version 6 Active
  • Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relations, Invent}}
  • Basic Primary Needs.esp Version 5.6 Active
  • SupremeMagicka.esp Version 0.90b Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Names, Graphics}}
    • Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
  • SM_ShiveringIsles.esp Version 0.90 Active
    • Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
  • SM_DLCSpellTome.esp Version 0.90 Active
  • SM_OOO.esp Version 0.90 Active
  • SM_COBL.esp Version 0.90 Active
  • SM_EnchantStaff.esp Version 0.90 Active
  • SM_Scrolls.esp Version 0.90 Active
  • SM_SigilStone.esp Version 0.90 Active
  • MidasSpells.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Invent}}
    • Contains dirty edits: 49 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
  • RenGuardOverhaul.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIData}}
  • Better Cities Full.esp Version 5.1.7 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Water}}
  • Better Imperial City.esp Version 5.1.8 Active
  • Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp Version 5.0.7 Active
  • Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp Version 5.0.0 Active
    • Note: Only use if using Better Imperial City.esp
  • Better Cities - COBL.esp Version 2.1 Active
  • Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp Version 4.9.0 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Water}}
  • SM_DeadlyReflex.esp Version 0.90
?Unrecognised Plugins


Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

  • Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Knights of Nine.esp Active
  • Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - No Daedric Items.esp Active
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sexy zara
 
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 9:44 am

Bash looks complicated; but it really isn't. You usually can ignore many features of Bash, but it is pretty much a must have if you have more then the Unofficial Patches and DLC.
I can already tell you need to Merge Leveled Lists, since you have OOO, Craftybits, and COBL. I think, anyway.
Though I dislike the look of that BOSS log. Not that there is something wrong with it, it just unnerves me how many dirty edits things have.
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Lucky Girl
 
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:38 am

Right, i dont know what merged level lists or dirty edits are lol I might just give in and give wrye bash a go. What version do you recommend for oblivion? 295.5 @ http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=22368 what version do i need python or standalone?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:11 am

Uninstalled all my mods in nmm and now have bash installed! :) Doesnt look as intimidating now i have it installed, now to work out how to add mods....
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:11 am

Uninstalled all my mods in nmm and now have bash installed! :smile: Doesnt look as intimidating now i have it installed, now to work out how to add mods....

Basically, read http://oblivionworks.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/oblivionworks/Programs/Wrye%20Bash/Mopy/Wrye%20Bash.html#InstallersTab article.
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