Howdy folks! This is my first post here.
After playing Oblivion on my 360, I fell in love with the series and eventually ended up playing Arena and Daggerfall on PC (Thanks Bethesda for releasing those for free on your website!!!!) Before my WinXP machine died I also played through the GOTY version of Morrowind and found out about all the mods available. I even dabbled a bit with the Construction Set to help my beginning character. Nothing too major or anything, but enough to keep me from dying 10 minutes after leaving the ship.

Anyway, my one and only request is this. Is there any way you guys could make a "Best of Mods" download feature for console owners? I understand that it would have to be free, but it would be a nice incentive for those of us who can't play on PC. I'm working on a Mac right now and it's not strong enough to run Oblivion with any conversion software.

That being said, I look forward to Skyrim and 11/11 can't get here fast enough.

Ok, I know your new, but there are so many threads about mods and mods for consoles. Please, please use those

Have a http://images.uesp.net//c/c4/Fishystick.jpg

:facepalm: I should have read more lol...but This still should go in a mod or suggestion thread, doesn't need a new thread.

I think that Cliffracers will be quiet before that happens.

I think it would be cool to release a "best of" for the console users, but I believe there are some difficulties with this such as file size limit, ESRB rating, and publishing rights/agreements. Since the mods are user-created, it becomes a legal grey zone as to how to deliver them on the consoles. Modders would likely have to give their rights to the content away for free and that becomes a logistical burden for the publisher to deal with. I'm sure other people on here know much more about this than I do. This is just my initial guess as to some of the barriers to making this happen.

If they could work everything out, I believe the "hardcoe" console fans would even pay for the best available mods. I know I would.

The amount of money Bethesda would have to invest in this would be far too much to warrant such a feature. Even assuming they could come up with a proposal MS and Sony would agree to.

Besides, you'd need to eliminate the script extenders right from the beginning, and that cuts out a lot of the "best of" immediately.

Consoles will not be abe to create mods or play them. Even if they could I don't know how they would come up with a top ten list. I guess they could go by the most downloaded mods at tesnexus or something.

Hey, man! Have a http://images.uesp.net//c/c4/Fishystick.jpg



...stick?

I'm on console too. I'm afraid that it's very unlikely we'll get mods

He gets two? I feel cheated!

I just wish we could use console commands on consoles. I'm sure they could implement it through a menu option or something.

Although it would be nice, I dont think they will. Since mods are made by players, they wouldnt promote player made material, even if its really good. But who knows!

I never even got one, but I'm not complaining.

...until now that is.

Yeah I want a fishy stick. :liplick:

....or Skooma....yeah that will do.

A friendly suggestion; build a PC instead of a mac and then perhaps you can get a machine able to play games ^^

Unless (s)he's dealing with very old equipment, the only difference between a Mac and a "PC" is whether or not Windows is installed. Buy a copy of Win7 Home Edition, and they'd be all set. Mac machines even tend to have half-decent video cards by default from what I've seen.

If you want mods just buy a PC.

yeh I dont think mods for console will ever happen
mods is all we PC people have that console dont and you want to take that from us

You can't take freedom away from someone by allowing others to have it as well. And enjoying something just because others can't have it is just wrong.

iMac G5 that cost 1500 bucks when it was new in 2004. Had an 80 gb HDD and a godly 256 MB of RAM lol. I could have built a machine 10 times as powerful for that price lol. 20 times nowadays. (Oh and the difference between Mac and PC is the OS, you are correct. Macs disdain the idea of a PC, the don't like the idea of a computer being used for personal reasons.

Mods and consoles do not mix. Pointless flame removed.

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Problem here lies with how subjective this is. "Best of Mods" is questionable as to how one like it or not, or the fact that it tend to lead to some unhealthy competition within the community or the fact that Mods tend to be updated on a regular basis, not to mention all done in free time of the author/s.

Then there the issue with Microsoft and Sony and how much money and issue the Dev have to endure just to place or even allow these kind of modding.

Yeah, not touching the second sentence with a ten foot floppy disk.

However, 2006 was when Apple gave up their proprietary systems and switched to standard intel based hardware. Same hardware every Windows PC uses.

edit: I should probably note that this applies to desktops and laptops. I'm not sure what the iOS based iPhones, iPads and iPods have for hardware.

Yeah....that second part falls into the "get a warning from a moderator, probably get your post removed, maybe get banned" field of very bad ideas.

I am saying if you do that there will be less PC people, so more games will be console exclusive, no one will care about PC, look at AC:B its being released next month for PC, it has been released for console since October, and I want people to play online with

All we have? Hardly, ideology alone is enough to keep me away from the walled garden of console gaming, but the better control methods, better visuals, easier use, and better value are what keep me here. The advantages of PC gaming aren't on console because it's a result of a completely different train of thought - modularity, not all-in-one - freedom, not restriction. Whether one can modify the games on a console easily doesn't change any of that. Unless things seriously change, I'll never be a console gamer, because I don't like being told what to like, and I don't like being locked into one thing with no way of making it better,

I think I mentioned something like this in another thread, but I think it's worth mentioning here since the thread is specifically about the subject.

I don't think they'd call it "The Best of", as others have said that's a subjective term anyway. Also, there would be a gap between which mods are "the best" and which mods are "the most practical" to port over to consoles. For instance, you'd have a huge epic mod that adds new models, textures, voice-overs and so on and it'd probably be really really good BUT in order to port that over to the console versions Bethesda would need to pay Microsoft/Sony for the server space to have it hosted on XBL/PSN-if they want to make this free (which would likely also have the fewest legal implications), they'd need to keep the size down to a minimum. They might need to do some of that anyway just because the textures might be too high resolution, the models too high poly-count, or the voice-overs too high bit-rate to run efficiently on consoles, but even after working on that it could still be a sizable file. Then there's the matter of support-at the very least Bethesda would need to wait some time after a mod like that is released to make sure the team behind it has ironed out most of the bugs-and even then some new ones could creep in during the transition to consoles.

If Bethesda decided they need to charge for it (if only to cover expenses), then they'd need to work out some kind of deal with the mod's creator(s). True, they'd need to do this anyway even if they make it free to download but it's more of a complication when money's involved. There'd need to be an agreement where the creators get a certain cut of any profits or an understanding that they will not profit and are bared from filing any lawsuits related to not receiving any money for their work (ideally the cost of the mod would be handled in a more-or-less non-profit manner so as to strictly cover the costs of hosting). I think that if a mod were made available for consoles for free, and the author(s) were contacted first, they would almost certainly give permission and sign any related legal documents so long as they are understandable enough that they don't need to hire a lawyer for themselves. lol

I think that for any relatively minor mods that overhaul some aspect of the gameplay or provide some kind of simple quest might work better-although if they lack voice-overs it could be a problem (it'd be cool if Bethesda added voice-overs, but that would be yet another cost-prohibitive thing).

In terms of dealing with the ESRB-well, in this instance it wouldn't be like Bethesda is just opening up all PC mods for use on consoles-there would be a "selection process" and they could ensure that the mods they choose fit within the parameters of the rating given to their game-and even if not there's always the disclaimer "online content not rated". Same goes for Microsoft and Sony, as long as it's being handled directly through the development company it should be okay aside from the hosting costs.

All that said, I find it kind of doubtful that they'll do anything like this despite how cool it would be.