Agreed. I read that they could make "modding tools" available on the consoles; not that they desire to run PC mods on consoles. In theory, the tools would be used to mod what the consoles could in turn handle. If that amounts to not very much... so be it. But why couldn't the modding ability include basic building blocks of construction? It's been done on a basic level with other games. Maybe I just want to make a little cabin in the woods.

Not being familiar with the Creation Tools at all, the responses so far are informative. I welcome more of them.

Wishful thinking, I'd link you to the podcast but i don't remember which one states it.


bascially todd says It was developed for the 360 in mind, Makes no sense since ALL games are developed on PC's but meh

My first post questions the accuracy of the report and expressed a desire for the original source. Do you have a link? It would be greatly appreciated.

WHy should what someone does in their single-player universe bother you at all? Seems like something silly to worry about since it doesn't affect you.

Here http://www.next-gen.biz/news/skyrim-mods-could-reach-consoles





That should stanch this notion about the CK being used on consoles

Looks like you found it before me.

Thanx
Tlantl

Thanks! That clears up a lot for me.

Edit: And thanks to Tlantl for trying.

Consoles could run any mods that conform to the performance restrictions of the base game - and while that isn't any and all mods, it allows for a hell of a lot. You just have to think 'DLC' rather than 'Graphics overhaul'. Think 'Shivering Isles' rather than 'Quarls Texture Pack'. Think 'Ruined Tail's Tale' rather than 'Mart's Monster Mod'.

New quests, new areas, new dungeons, new NPCs, new weapons, new armour... that's an awful lot of modding possibility there.

As for how such mods could be distributed for consoles, I suspect Sony and Microsoft might be ok with it but would charge a nominal fee for people to download the mods to cover providing storage and bandwidth. However, they may require Bethesda to do some quality control on mods submitted for console (for acceptable content as well as basic reliability), and this could be the sticking point. Bethesda would have to justify the ongoing cost of a small review team by treating the console mods as advertising, with modders providing content free and Bethesda covering administration. Bethesda might see it that way, they might not.

This was my thoughts as well, mods for consoles would have to be restricted to the equivelent of DLC.
The one thing I doubt though is wether they would ever be hosted on Xbox Live.
My guess is that we will have to buy a Bethesda version of Skyrim Mod Manager that will let mods run (since the main game is entirely on game disc) and then we will download mods ourselves from the internet and transfer them via cd or memory stick to the console.
This way microsoft and sony can keep themselves completely clear of potential problems from broken games and inappropriate content

microsoft and sony like to believe they still own the machines you bought. They demand total control of the software that runs on their machines. I seriously doubt that they will sit by while people indiscriminately add stuff to their machines. Look what happened when someone cracked the security system on the PS3. Was pretty ugly.

If this is going to happen it will be with the console companies blessing.

Too bad they are so greedy that they will likely charge for this service if it does get approved.

SI is in an entirely new worldspace for a very good reason - there's no room in cyrodiil, but if you can unload that, you can make another world as complex. Certainly modding could exist, in a limited fashion, I never disagreed with that - but you could never overhaul the game to the extent PC mods have, or anywhere near. Small quests, or larger quests in small parts you could disable and enable, certainly, but quantity would become an issue very, very quickly. Taking Fallout as an example, its DLCs make very few changes to the main world, but that does not stop them from having a noticeable performance impact.

What the Optimists aren't telling you

• Bethesda will need to raise a digital infrastructure THROUGH PSN and XBL for consoles to get mods
  
• There will then also be the need for a Mod Manager, the PC version came with one, I don't know why you'd expect the Consoles not to need one either
  
• Sony and Microsoft WILL want to profit from this, period.
  
• There will be regulations, Have you seen the nexus? a handful of mods from there easily turns oblivion into a AO game.
  
• There are Modders, who will not mod for Consoles
  
• Modders, will NOT be getting compensation because if anyone bothered to read the Eula for the CS, everything and anything made through the CS belongs to Beth, custom resources do not however.
  
• Complex mods, like DR, many house mods, pffft what am I saying, anything that doesn't just include a sword of pwn 10000 will need a Script extender

What the Pessimists aren't telling you

• This will be by far one of the most sixiest things to happen to gaming, Period.
  
• A new age in cross platform unity will dawn as there will be no such thing as a 360 only or PS3 only mod
  
• Bethesda will make a killing, period when people see how drastically altered their games can be ALMOST getitng several free games in one (but Sony and Microsoft will still want to profit)

I didn't add things like mod crashing consoles (even though that is a possiblity) because Micro and Sony will be regulating what reaches to the consoles.

I hope it will be Mods for the next Gen consoles.

If Sony accepts it, microsoft will have to too because otherwise many console users will buy a ps3 to get mods. So everyones looking at you sony. :shifty:

• Forgive my ignorance, but doesn't a digital infrastructure exist already? How do console users get Bethesda DLC?
  
• Again, surely once console users have bought DLC they have some way of getting it to appear in game.
  
• Possibly. They may also see it as a way of getting more people to buy consoles, and so settle for doing it at cost price.
  
• No one in their right minds would expect otherwise, true.
  
• Yes. So? Anyway, lots of modders will mod for consoles, because they like improving the game and sharing those improvements. Miserly modders who only mod for the righteous few are... actually, are there any?
  
• Modders don't get compensation anyway, so no change there.
  
• Rubbish. Long and involved quest mods don't need a script extender. New creature and NPC mods don't need an extender. In fact, only mods that try to get the game to do something it was never intended to do need an extender. It's nice to have an extender, but describing it as essential (and implying any mod that doesn't use it is rubbish) is misleading and frankly rather insulting to all the wonderful mods that don't need or use one.

• No argument there
  
• Um. What if Microsoft agrees to allow Bethesda to distribute mods, but Sony want nothing to do with the idea?
  
• Hopefully

Sorry, but M$ and Sony will never allow it. I'd love to be proved wrong but I don't see why they would.

Likely? No.... I could maybe see Sony agreeing with it, but not Microsoft. It has been stated in many threads that this would make a lot of people not buy DLC, and just use mods. Not good from Microsoft's perspective.

If they allow mods for the 360, I will buy both a PC and 360 version. I'm sure there are enough PC gamers who would do the same.

i'll just get the PC version

lol, he actually believes this :lmao:

If you are interested in using mods that is still the best option even if they do allow mods on console. Consoles would still be limited in the mods they could even run on their hardware. If you are interested in actually making mods, it would be your only choice anyway.

I hope it does happen but i can see Sony agreeing to not charge for the mods, but Microsoft not agreeing with that and they will want to charge.

If valve brought steam to the PS3, its possible for Bethesda to roll out patches when they want and for them to regulate mods for their games. Without running everything through sony.

For people saying Sony wouldn't allow it, there's already a PS3 game which supports mods created on the PC.

Ever heard of Unreal tournament 3? You can create mods on the PC and port them to the PS3 version if you wish to, there were plenty of mods released this way.

To be clear, the first option is something we've wanted to do for some time. This is an excerpt from our Fallout 3 fan interview with Todd



If/when it happens is still in the air. It'd definitely be cool to see the amazing mods you guys make on consoles.