Mods for homosixuals? : III - Morrowind

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:38 am

Glad to hear it's almost ready. :goodjob: I'll keep an eye out for it on Elric.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:16 pm

Sorry for the lack of updates on the LAL mod, but I've been running into issues with it. I'll be sending it off ot Fligg here shortly to see if he can fix the issue.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:08 pm

It sounds really good. I hope it works!! Well done x

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:08 am

Anyway, as others have indicated, this thread was a pleasant surprise. I am curious to know if the page dedicated to homosixual mods ever saw the light of day? I know about Morrowind Q, its how I found out about Agony and the Rapture, but it definitely needs some updating. And as soon as the same six (in my case, male/male) options are available in LAL, I will certainly be using it.

Unfortunately Lioe isn't active around the MW community these days, so his list is indeed out of date. If anyone has updates for this (or any other Mythic List) then we're happy to update the page(s) accordingly. Either PM me here or use the contact details at http://www.mwmythicmods.com/.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:12 pm

would any one be interested in trying to complete / fix Agony and Rapture? i have it installed but can never get it to work thru the quest line....

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:34 am

sorry to bump....

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:59 am

I might be willing to do something with it, only the author doesn't seem to give any permissions or express any wishes in that regard, and I've no idea how to contact him. So I'm not sure whether I should or not?

BTW, was there ever a full release? All I've got is a beta.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:26 am

Ive got the full release sitting on my external somewhere, pm me your email and ill send it to you. I tried emailing the author a while back when i first got the mod and was unable to make it work but had no reply, I think they might have either left the modding community or changed their email address. If i knew anything about companion scripting id make a new one from scratch, but i dont

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:06 am

Ive got the full release sitting on my external somewhere, pm me your email and ill send it to you. I tried emailing the author a while back when i first got the mod and was unable to make it work but had no reply, I think they might have either left the modding community or changed their email address. If i knew anything about companion scripting id make a new one from scratch, but i dont

Great to see this still being worked on even with all these unexpected hurdles showing up. :foodndrink:

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:59 am

This is quite a necrobump, and I am sorry about that, but I am interested to hear if anyone has any further info on Agony and Rapture being finished up? Also the Romantic Subplots mod?

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:50 pm

I am interested to hear if anyone has any further info on Agony and Rapture being finished up?

Nope. I still only have the beta, and then I kind of forgot about it. Plus there's no usage permissions in the beta readme and nobody knows how to contact the author, so I'm not sure if it's really OK to do anything with it anyway.

If anyone wants to send me the latest version I'll take a look though.

PS If anyone knows where I can get free use (out of copyright) gay art - preferably in a Persian or Indian (especially Mughal) style but any would be a help - could you send me a PM? I can't seem to find any in a decent resolution.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:43 pm

Nope. I still only have the beta, and then I kind of forgot about it. Plus there's no usage permissions in the beta readme and nobody knows how to contact the author, so I'm not sure if it's really OK to do anything with it anyway.

If anyone wants to send me the latest version I'll take a look though.

PS If anyone knows where I can get free use (out of copyright) gay art - preferably in a Persian or Indian (especially Mughal) style but any would be a help - could you send me a PM? I can't seem to find any in a decent resolution.

As far as I know, the beta version is all there is. Its all that I have ever played. That is the one that would need to be updated. What is available at Elric's place is Beta version 1.0.

Since he hasn't been around for ages and doesn't respond to emails, it doesn't seem like there will ever be a way to get permission the normal way. His readme doesn't expressly forbid anyone from updating it, but I suppose I can understand the reticence you feel about updating it without permission.

It seems that the things that need to be fixed are timers and activators. The only way I was ever able to finish playing the mod was by putting in the journal entry codes into the console. The downside to doing it that way, is that I missed a bit of the mod and had to read about what was supposed to have happened in the journal.

Have you ever thought about finishing it for yourself (and perhaps a few select others ) and just not releasing it officially? The lack of this mod's completion has always been a source of annoyance for me. lol I will always wonder what happened to EvilFluffyBunnies and why he didn't make the update a few weeks later like he said he might in his readme. I hope nothing dreadful ever happened to him.

Here is EvilFluffyBunnies' readme in its entirety:

"Agony and Rapture"

~ A gay romance mod ~

EvilFluffyBunnies
evilfluffybunnies88@hotmail.com

Version Information -

v. BETA 1.0
First release EVER! So far, I have managed to make it work without bugs - BUT, there will probably be problems. AND there will be typos. Please, email me with any problems/bugs and I will try to fix them - even if it is small things like spelling mistakes. I know how bad the jarring sensation is when playing mods that have spelling errors in them!

Introduction -

There have been a few boyfriend mods - Emma's Indiana James and Vorwoda_the_Black's Decius companion, but nothing for those who don't want to be referred to as a "girl" yet still want a boyfriend! I know there are gay Morrowind players out there - and since I know of no other gay mod, so I made this mod. (I even know of lisbian mods, but I think that is just because of straight mens' fascination with women having six with each other...) This mod might even be interesting for the non-gay player who is secure about his sixuality, but please remember that this contains only MY opinions - and does not represent all homosixuals. I didn't create a romance path for women, sorry, but there are plenty of other romance mods out there if you want to play a female character (hence this is a gay romance mod).

This mod is more "graphic" then any of the romances before it, I would put an age restriction on it, but honestly, 13 yr old boys can find porm on the internet, and this is far from porm. It can be at times a bit perverted, but you have to be a little perverted playing a romance mod on the computer anyhow! Just enjoy it and let it take you for a ride!

Have fun, escape from reality for a while, and maybe even fall in love ~

Installation -

Unzip into Morrowind directory.
Click no if it asks you to replace files (unless they are different - then the packaged boyfriend might be a little ugly!)
This just means you have installed a previous head modifier that already contained those textures/meshes.

Playing -

This mod is designed to be played with a new character, however if you want to use an older character, that is fine - just return to Seyda Neen and the excise and census office, talk to Sellus Gravius about "Morrowind" and "dangerous place" and follow the instructions from there.
Mainly, just have fun! He shouldn't distract from your main game that much, he was designed as an NPC to fit into your RolePlay!

Future -

This is a beta release, in a few weeks I will probably release another version with modifications to this one.
1. Increase the number of greetings you get from Marc, and increase their randomisation
2. Maybe add new plot elements/frustrations.

Spoilers -
(Read if you are frustrated/stuck)

This mod is designed to be incredibly slow moving, but if you want to speed it up, open up the Console with "~", click on Marc and type in "set romancecounter to 10", then talk to him and the romance will move. You will know the romance plot has moved when you get "Journal updated". There are a few other things, like plot will only move at certain times, or when another variable in Marc's script, "romgreeting" - which forces greetings at random times every 4 days is a certain value, or only after battles or in certain cells - Suran is the main "action" place.
The entire plot should finish with an exchange of rings, and my little remark about marriage.
The dialogue changes often, so keep talking to him!
Email me if there are any other problems.

EvilFluffyBunnies

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:37 pm

I tried the Agony mod. Wasn't my cup really.
I was suprised to see that MCA seems to have 'swings both ways' courtesans though.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:11 am

I tried the Agony mod. Wasn't my cup really.
I was suprised to see that MCA seems to have 'swings both ways' courtesans though.

Which is great for some brief titillating fun. But I still want to see more mods like the Julan Ashlander companion mod that are gay friendly, for some substance and depth. I happened to really love the Agony mod, but I would love to see it completely fixed.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:09 pm

It was a nice little mod, I'm just more partial to..effeminate types?
But yeah a fully fledged companion that does more than just sleep with you would be a really nice addition.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:10 am

It was a nice little mod, I'm just more partial to..effeminate types?
But yeah a fully fledged companion that does more than just sleep with you would be a really nice addition.

Well, if you ever get into Baldur's Gate II, you might like the Nathaniel gay romance mod for it then. I loved it a whole heck of a lot, but I am more partial to the masculine types. I guess that is why I loved Marc so much.

Don't get me wrong though, I have been known to be attracted to "less masculine" men as well, which is why Nathaniel was still a whole lot of fun.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:19 am

Ooh, OK... If what I've got *is* the latest version I'll dig it out and take a look.

Have you ever thought about finishing it for yourself (and perhaps a few select others ) and just not releasing it officially?

That did occur to me, yes

... I get the impression from the readme the author would probably be OK with a fixed-script kind of update at least (FYI: I don't "do" dialogue - I have no intention of changing that any more than necessary, except for typos and whatnot!).

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:31 am

Ooh, OK... If what I've got *is* the latest version I'll dig it out and take a look.

That did occur to me, yes

... I get the impression from the readme the author would probably be OK with a fixed-script kind of update at least (FYI: I don't "do" dialogue - I have no intention of changing that any more than necessary, except for typos and whatnot!).

The dialogue already present is great anyway. Just fixing the thing would be absolutely amazing. And maybe making it somewhat faster. When EvilFluffyBunnies said it was slow, he really meant it! Thanks for taking a peek at it and seeing what you can do!

Looking at your signature and seeing that you are one of the authors of "Morrowind Scripting for Dummies" gives me very high hopes. lol

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:00 am

Good luck with the update of the Agony and Rapture mod

It's a very good idea, and great that the problems with the mod will be attended to.

I just wanted to clarify something that I read in the readme posted in this thread:

There have been a few boyfriend mods - Emma's Indiana James and Vorwoda_the_Black's Decius companion, but nothing for those who don't want to be referred to as a "girl" yet still want a boyfriend!

Regarding Indiana James, this isn't right! I have deliberately avoided to make any gender-specific remarks, because I wanted the mod to be equally useful for someone who wanted a same-six romance.
Now, I'm *not* saying that anyone should use Indiana James, the mod is very outdated compared to today's standards (I made it in 2002 and latest update was in 2003), and I'm sure that Agony and Rapture will have a lot more to offer. Still, as I was eager to make him work equally well for a male-male-romance, I wasn't happy to see the above quote in the readme.

If you are making an updated version of the mod, maybe you would be so kind and also rephrase this in the readme? Many thanks in advance.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:19 am

No problem, Emma

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:31 am

Now, I'm *not* saying that anyone should use Indiana James, the mod is very outdated compared to today's standards (I made it in 2002 and latest update was in 2003), and I'm sure that Agony and Rapture will have a lot more to offer.

Well, for me, there is never an installation of Morrowind that doesn't have Indiana James activated. All my boys love him!

He's cute and romantic and has a nice home!

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:41 am

Well, for me, there is never an installation of Morrowind that doesn't have Indiana James activated. All my boys love him!

He's cute and romantic and has a nice home!

I'm glad to hear that

I know someone requested that I should make Laurenna and Wulfren of Lokken same-six available, too, but trying to complicate that storyline with two further options would have been a little more than what I could have coped with. So I'm glad that at least Indiana offers that.

I don't fully recall how I ended up with Prophecies of the Lost Heir, but I do believe I made the male breton mage at the headquarter available for same-six romance as well (but I cannot say I'm 100 % sure about it).

No problem, Emma

Many thanks, Melian

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:10 pm

I'll do any dialogue you need if you do choose to do this melian, tho perhaps having looked thru Agony & Rapture might it not be easier to start from scratch using more modern companion techniques?

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:00 am

Man, I'd love to see a bisixual Julan "patch." There been any progress since that was discussed?

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:27 am

I'll do any dialogue you need if you do choose to do this melian, tho perhaps having looked thru Agony & Rapture might it not be easier to start from scratch using more modern companion techniques?

More modern? Like what? He is already pretty amazing when it comes to warping to you from impossible distances, he casts levitate on himself if you cast it on yourself, he can heal himself with potions if need be, and of course he has companion share. If there is stuff even more nifty than all of that, I sure have been out of the loop.

Your idea of starting from scratch is awesome, but maybe that can be a whole seperate mod and companion? If Marc Antony gets fixed AND a new gay companion gets created, that would mean more choices, which I think would be doubly great.

Man, I'd love to see a bisixual Julan "patch." There been any progress since that was discussed?

I would love to see that patch too, but it seems that its an unlikely thing. Kateri, the very talented creator of Julan, has stated that while she had been thinking about making him bisixual, she didn't think it would fit well with his conservative Ashlander beliefs. She added that if a patch is ever made, she would be the one to do it and thus does not grant permission for anyone else to do it. I have never heard anything beyond that. I still love Julan though.

He is with my Michael and Marc in my current game right now. Arnand is along as well.

Michael has a shot with Marc or Arnand, but all he can do is secretly stare longingly at Julan. lol

Even if we didn't get a bisixual patch for Julan, it would be cool if we could at least "come out" to him and then teach him to be more tolerant of gays just as we have an opportunity

Spoiler

to teach him to be more tolerant of Imperials.

I always loved that touch and think it would be absolutely awesome to have a similar thing for gays. And maybe even have a chance at some point to tell him that we have feelings for him, and have him gently but firmly rebuff us, but explain that he would always be honored to be our dear and loyal friend and would always defend us against those who would speak ill of us, or something touching and sappy like that. The Julan mod could be made to be "gay friendly" without Julan having to be bisixual or gay himself. Yes, that idea has more than a little bit of cheese in it, but, I still think it would be cool. The next best thing to having Julan available as a love interest for males. I suppose some people would complain though, saying that by downloading Julan, they hadn't intended to download an After School Special sponsered by the gay rights movement, or something to that effect.