Moon physics : V

» Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:28 pm

So, with this new engine I hope we are no longer playing with 1/3 gravity and lethargic physics that existed in Oblivion and Fallout 3/NV.

Who else would like to see slightly more realistic world physics in regards to items, jumping, falling. etc.?

» Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:51 pm

fallout had that, it was only in oblivion where acceleration is not taken into affect

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:36 am

From the title, I thought this thread was going to be about the physical/environmental effects of Nirn's two moons. Imagine the tides!

But I hope there are improvements in this regard too, and I'm pretty confident that there will be.

» Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:25 pm

Yeah, hopefully it actually looks and feels like we're making contact with the ground when we move.

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:11 am

From the title, I thought this thread was going to be about the physical/environmental effects of Nirn's two moons. Imagine the tides!

But I hope there are improvements in this regard too, and I'm pretty confident that there will be.

they did say there were water physics

» Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:01 pm

From the title, I thought this thread was going to be about the physical/environmental effects of Nirn's two moons. Imagine the tides!

But I hope there are improvements in this regard too, and I'm pretty confident that there will be.

I had thought the same

.

» Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:01 pm

What???? you mean that jumping 10 feet in the air and floating 20 forward isn't realistic?

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:27 am

In addition to falling accelleration (didn't they do high school physics?),,,
,,,I would like to see accelleration of the main character based on their weight (weight of equipment), so a heavy character couldn't side-step or dodge as fast as a unarmed character, but still have a similar top speed so they don't get bored on long walks.

» Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:20 pm

'Moon Physics' will be the name of the all-Khajiit prog rock band that plays in a secret cellar somewhere in a tavern in Skyrim. Completely off their faces on Skooma. You heard about this easter egg here first folks.

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:28 am

Realism, eh?

You do know Nirn is different than Earth, right?

Therefore, what is realistic on Earth isn't exactly realistic on Nirn, and vice versa.

Besides, the only way the Elder Scrolls will truly be realistic is if you remove magic.

» Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:08 pm

Hehe, tides caused by the moon would be an a neat effect, but I'd be more concerned with having a tumble off a cliff actually look painful.

» Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:00 pm

Isn't the physic order still in hiding

» Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:03 pm

It's a yes for realism. It's a maybe for development.

» Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:36 pm

Realism, eh?

You do know Nirn is different than Earth, right?

Therefore, what is realistic on Earth isn't exactly realistic on Nirn, and vice versa.

Besides, the only way the Elder Scrolls will truly be realistic is if you remove magic.

Do you think the developers consciously made the decision that Nirn would have weaker gravity than Earth, or do you think they just messed up the physics?

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:58 am

im not sure about it, since the running and acrobatics starting off are horrible, but when fully trained it seems too unrealistic.
half the time, fall damage doesnt seem like it should harm you as much as it should, but that might just be how first person is hard to judge height when jumping.
but in oblivion i would jump everywhere, but as a consequence, take tons of fall damage so hot-keyed healing potions.

also i believe they said wind will affect water current, so you would think the moon would affect the tide more than wind.

» Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:07 pm

Do you think the developers consciously made the decision that Nirn would have weaker gravity than Earth, or do you think they just messed up the physics?

Could be both. You never know.

Besides, Oblivion was Bethesda's first try with physics, so I can assume we're not going to be seeing slow falling bodies in relation to the gravity on Nirn, whether it be greater than, lesser than, or equal to Earth's.

I just thought I'd chime in on the concern of realism, because when it comes to realism on Nirn, you never know.

» Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:02 pm

'Moon Physics' will be the name of the all-Khajiit prog rock band that plays in a secret cellar somewhere in a tavern in Skyrim. Completely off their faces on Skooma. You heard about this easter egg here first folks.

My word I have Ozric Tentacles on the hifi right now and that post conjured up some very amusing images :celebrate:

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:03 am

Isn't the physic order still in hiding

You mean the Psijics? They're more telepaths and less theoretical physicists (ah, I'd love to see an Altmer Gordon Freeman

)

» Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:27 pm

My word I have Ozric Tentacles on the hifi right now and that post conjured up some very amusing images :celebrate:

Oh my god, I was listening to the Hidden Step, how weird is that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vITw7Z3fRik
How Skyrim is that?

» Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:53 pm

Haha I actually contemplated putting Hidden Step on but opted for Erpland as I haven't heard it in a while

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:02 am

Could be both. You never know.

Besides, Oblivion was Bethesda's first try with physics, so I can assume we're not going to be seeing slow falling bodies in relation to the gravity on Nirn, whether it be greater than, lesser than, or equal to Earth's.

I just thought I'd chime in on the concern of realism, because when it comes to realism on Nirn, you never know.

I suppose you could technically say it would be more realistic to take size into account, but most games shoot for earth like physics unless game play is completely based on alternate physics

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:29 am

(ah, I'd love to see an Altmer Gordon Freeman

)

I ran across a headmudcrab the other day. Nasty creatures, I try to avoid them.

It'd be interesting the Bethesda actually put in well thought-out differences between Nirn physics and those we know - so long as they're intentional, of course, and not just covering up for not being able to get things right. Everything shouldn't be the same, considering that the place doesn't run on scientific physics as we understand it anyway.

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:55 am

'Moon Physics' will be the name of the all-Khajiit prog rock band that plays in a secret cellar somewhere in a tavern in Skyrim. Completely off their faces on Skooma. You heard about this easter egg here first folks.

LOL

» Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:19 am

From the title, I thought this thread was going to be about the physical/environmental effects of Nirn's two moons. Imagine the tides!

But I hope there are improvements in this regard too, and I'm pretty confident that there will be.

I thought it was going to be about which stages they were in, and how it would affect the Khajjit.

» Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:39 pm

im not sure about it, since the running and acrobatics starting off are horrible, but when fully trained it seems too unrealistic.
half the time, fall damage doesnt seem like it should harm you as much as it should, but that might just be how first person is hard to judge height when jumping.
but in oblivion i would jump everywhere, but as a consequence, take tons of fall damage so hot-keyed healing potions.

also i believe they said wind will affect water current, so you would think the moon would affect the tide more than wind.

stop playing games then specialty rpgs were we build stats ,if we get highs stats in speed and acrobatics we should jump very high and run fast.