So, by the time of Skirym, Vvardenfell is just a lava geyser, most of the people had to go back to the continent. There will be a Dunmer village in Skyrim. So there may be (not likely though) the possibility of a tiny, excessively discreet presence of the Morag Tong in Skyrim...
Don't you guys want to join the Morag Tong again? It was probably my favourite guild in the TES series. If I remember well, the dark brotherhood will be back, so this would actually make things a lot more interesting to play. You join either one or the other, and the major plot could turn around the conflict between the two factions, maybe with a great "assassinate their leader" mission.

I would be nice to see the Morag Tong and the Dark Brotherhood compete in Skyrim. You could join one or the other and compete for contracts. Morag Tong will probably make a small appearance though, even though the bulk of the dunmer live in Solstheim now and not Skyrim.

The Morag Tong are legal assassins... Could be good to have back.

Legal in Morrowind hehe... things won't be so easy in the Nords land.

I would enjoy having both the Morag Tong and Dark Brotherhood in Skyrim

I actually wouldn't be surprised to see the Morag Tong in Skyrim alongside the Dark Brotherhood, knowing what we do. It would fit the "civil war" theme.

Actually, they're illegal in the Empire. They were only allowed to run in Morrowind due to the terms of their annexation.

I would love to see the Morag Tong in Skyrim. Kind of disappointing that in Oblivion it wasn't there...and only one NPC that usually died shortly after you meet him, although I did like that armor.

I found the Morag Tong to be very boring in Morrowind and do not wish to see them return.

I'd actually be surprised if they weren't at least alluded to in Skyrim in some shape or form. Considering we know at least one town in the province will be heavily populated by Dunmer, perhaps we could see a sect of them: although what degree of influence they have now that the Great House system is decimated is another thing.

I hope that, if they are there, they are VERY hidden, almost legendary in status - something that you can only 'find' if certain specific conditions are met, or certain other quests completed. Perhaps perks could play into it

It would make sense that there would be a very small Morag Tong presence due to the virtual destruction of Vvardenfell,. It would seem feasible for at least a small cell of Morag Tong to relocate into Skyrim. But, as I say, I would expect them to be extremely covert. Not so much a Guild to 'join', and then rise up the ranks, as a presence who play a part in a few quests in the Dark Brotherhood quest line.

You expected the Morag Tong in Cyrodiil? You were only setting yourself up for inevitable disappointment, then. :shrug:

Yeah, also after the DB quests in Oblivion, we're spoiled so quests like those from Morrowind for the Morag Tong would be incredibly disappointing.



Meh. Morag Tong were alright in the fact they were legal in Morrowind due to being sanctioned but the Dark Brotherhood are much greater assassins. The Dark Brotherhood also have a more assassin feel to them as well, always having to be in the shadows and the way they get their contracts are just amazing.

Anyone who expects them are setting themselves for disappointment. They're legal ONLY in Morrowind, and even then, it was regulated to (mostly) house warfare for a pretty penny. I'd like them to be out, and while they didn't have the whole death crazy cult vibe, they were..not very fun.

Too much praise for a group of killers who could wear the most loud and eye catching armor, while screaming to the top of their voice about their presence and get away with murder because they had a piece of paper.

No, but it would've been nice.

I don't really care one way or the other.

Dark Brotherhood is a lot cooler anyway imo

God I wish. Favorite faction ever.



I would much rather have the Tong than the Goth Brotherhood, but I doubt it'll be the case since they didn't have much sway outside Morrowind, and certainly didn't have the legality they enjoyed outside their homeland. IIRC they were also hunted zealously by the Brotherhood when they traveled outside Morrowind. And Morrowind is more like Fallout than Elder Scrolls now.

Yeah, MT missions in Morrowind were pretty boring, but the MT lore is just genius.
DB are just psychopath killers gathering together, not a big deal. They are cool but damn too stereotyped. Yarrw we are bad, we kill hinhinhinn darkness, shadows blablabla boring stuff.
MT is actually part of the Dunmer society, barely hiding (in Morrowind only, of course), meaning that murder is part of the way the Dunmer govern their people. It is said many times that they actually are way more than a simple guild of assassins, having some kind of global project for the greater good -the greater good-. I mean, they even killed an emperor. The Tribunal happily hunt the DB without a tint of fear, but don't even try to mess with the MT and prefer disobey the Empire law (by letting them do whatever they want) than to actually piss off the MT. Dunmer culture from millenia, powerfull assassins, real mystery, string-pulling power in the shadow behind political figures, that's the MT.

I thought it was just Vvardenfell and not Morrowind that was ruined in the destruction by Red mountain? That leaves most of the Dunmer in Morrowind and the population of Vvardenfell fled to Solstheim, with the Morag Tong situated in Morrowind then there's a high chance they could appear, although according to the lore the Dark brotherhood pretty much dominates all of Tamriel assassination and stops/kills morag tong agents whenever they see them.

Where is it confirmed that there is a 'Dumner village'? I think Todd howard confirmed that there would be a town 'closer to the edge of morrowind where you get some dark elven influence- but only a little bit'.

Personally I found the morag tong boring and the fact that you could just show a writ to the guards to get off with killing someone wasn't very realistic. Assasinations should be sneaky, illegal and challenging so that you really have to think about where and when to kill someone so that the guards don't become alerted.

Underground war between the Morag Tong and Dark Brotherhood, involving splinter factions of each group vying for control of the drug and six trades in poor quarters please :twirl:

Exactly. That's why Playing the MT would be very interesting as they won't have a quarter of the power they had in Morrowind. this would bring much more stealth oriented missions, and of course a conflict with the Dark Brotherhood.


Hum I don't remember where i saw that sorry...
Yep, MT gameplay was pretty boring, but it was Morrowind. They did some effort to make the DB funnier to play because a lot of people complained about the MT missions. It's a lot more based on the game system itself rather than the guild actually.
So that means that if they return, Beth will actually do some effort to make them a lot more interesting. And as they will be in Tamriel, (as I said just above), they won't have a quarter of the power they had. The "license to kill" doesn't work here. So stealth is indispensable now. And they'll be tracked down by the DB, simultaneously they will track them down too.
I'm pretty sure there is here a wonderful potential of fun if the DB and the MT are present in the same game.

Indeed, even if you couldn't join the Morag Tong I think if the Brotherhood are in this, I would enjoy having the oppurtunity to stop public executions in Skyrim as part of the Brotherhood while executing the Tong assassins.

I think it would also provide an oppurtunity to expand the lore on both sides, Brotherhood lore seems to be getting stronger with the fact that sentient trees even believe in Sithis (Hist trees), where as the Brotherhood were originally an offshoot of the Tong.

Hmm, I wonder how with the removal of birthsigns (or perhaps just a title to replace them with perks granting bonuses instead), would they be able to factor in the shadowscales of the brotherhood?

Down with the Tong. LONG LIVE THE BROTHERHOOD!

Would love to see them back. DB quests in Oblivion were better made than MT quests in Morrowind, but I always thought the DB guild felt really cheesy. MT with well made quests would be awesome even though it probably won't happen.